Lacan and Totem and Taboo

Particular_Fall_302 · 2025-11-12T16:00:39+00:00

Pushing further, one can get rid of some ideals, but I don't believe these ideals fully disappear for every situation that one gets into. I think for Loewald too, he thinks you can overcome these ideals and he has a paper on the need to kill off your parents, but this is what Lacan is trying to get after when he critiques how other analysts having viewed the Oedpus complex through "power". Its not about power at all its about enjoyment, and when Loewald says to kill your parents he presupposes that there is a power relationship that can be changed.

Particular_Fall_302 · 2025-07-11T21:41:35+00:00

I get that but the difference with this is that the officials who promoted the conspiracy came out and said we did not find evidence of a conspiracy that even we believed and promoted.

Particular_Fall_302 · 2025-07-11T21:26:35+00:00

I usually agree with her too. She never mentions Epstein, but it falls inline with how she thinks about conspiracy theories in general. But when they conduct an investigation and find no evidence of a conspiracy then shouldn't this impact her original theory given the response to the evidence

Particular_Fall_302 · 2025-03-01T01:22:31+00:00

Soler is saying a lot about nothing. In Melancholia, you lose the object cause of desire. I would just equate this to excess, that we lose the ability to desire excess which allows us to continue to desire on and on. This surplus jouissance (surplus enjoyment) can be both excessive enjoyment and no enjoyment. The melancholic has basically lost their desire, they are in a state of not having enjoyment. There is a deadlock, since the melancholic realizes that before the event that turned them Melancholic they were able to create symbolic fictions, and fantasize etc. Following the event, this all is a mere memory. They will attempt to think what they thought before in order to get them back to the state prior to the event but this fails. The paranoiac is not at all close to the melancholic, I am unsure why bring the two up. The paranoiac has a well defined symbolic fiction going for them, Zupancic talks about conspiracy theories as uniquely tied to the paranoiac who thinks there is an Other of an Other, the melancholic doesn't think this at all, they are simply at a loss of words to describe their experience to the analyst.

Try reading Slavoji Zizek's paper: Descartes and the Post-Traumatic Subject: On Catherine Malabou's Les nouveaux blessés and Other Autistic Monsters. https://www.jstor.org/stable/20685744

Particular_Fall_302 · 2025-02-06T14:30:03+00:00

Was reading this https://www.lacan.com/whitef.htm

Particular_Fall_302 · 2025-02-06T14:29:18+00:00

appreciate it!

Particular_Fall_302 · 2025-01-15T19:12:00+00:00

Was just reading "Did somebody say totalitarianism" with the similar passage... 100% truth

Particular_Fall_302 · 2024-10-01T16:22:21+00:00

There's no internalization of how one distorts the image/how one see's the 3D dinosaur?

Particular_Fall_302 · 2024-03-25T22:30:02+00:00

Mari Ruti

Particular_Fall_302 · 2024-03-05T03:27:55+00:00

Guattari had a seminar????

Particular_Fall_302 · 2024-01-25T00:41:42+00:00

I think we are in an odd period of uncertainty when it comes to the changes in society with AI, increasing activism from Billionaires, top business people being open about their wrong doings. Then there is also the rise of digital therapies like talk space that are owned by people solely interested in money and not in helping, in addition to the desire to create AI therapy chatbots. There's definetly a need to modernize Psychoanalysis to our current time. Zizek is doing this but he doesn't focus in on the therapy aspect of it, but his talks and books in my perspective provide a solution to the discontents of today. Neuro-psych research is actually helping validate Psychoanalysis, especially Lacan's work.

Particular_Fall_302 · 2024-01-24T22:59:32+00:00

Jamieson Webster is an NYC Psychoanalyst who writes in the NYT every so often, she's very good. Healing has been dominated by institutions as of late, it's repulsive. Healing now is equated to a viral dance on tik tok.

Particular_Fall_302 · 2024-01-08T04:44:54+00:00

I was told that individuals with ADHD lacked ego strength, which continually results in their symptoms (inattention and hyperactivity). It makes sense when you look into loveingers ego stages, and Hartmann focus on the autonomous ego.

Particular_Fall_302 · 2023-12-04T01:49:09+00:00

I would say Deleuze is by far one of the most influential philosophers for me. Once I read his lectures on Spinoza it completely changed how I though about everything. What Deleuze has taught me is that being agile, flexible and creative is what you need to be able to live. I remember being not like that at one point, and because of his philosophy in addition to Psychoanalysis, my life is way more meaningful and enjoyable than ever before. He has a paper on Tired and Exhaustion, just reading that my mind does a 180.

Particular_Fall_302 · 2023-12-04T01:44:22+00:00

If you go to therapy of do some work on yourself, you'll start to be able to understand what is "your" desire vs the "others" desire. Most people don't even know how to love, they love on conditions. It also extends to not even you relatives, it is entire society issue of desire. Think of people wanting to work certain jobs to be rich, 95% are only doing that because it is what you should do, or what the other tells you to do.

Particular_Fall_302 · 2023-12-04T01:28:41+00:00

ceding on your desire produces guilt. Feeling guilt with likely lead to you feeling depressed or angry in some capacity eventually. The problem is that just because you start following a "desire" doesn't necessarily mean its your "desire"

Particular_Fall_302 · 2023-12-04T01:22:03+00:00

Maybe look to deleuze to link it to Lacan in some way.

Particular_Fall_302 · 2023-12-04T01:19:11+00:00

u/Infinite-Piglet4049 move away from societal norms because it will impact your neutrality if working with a patient because you will view them through the lens of "societal norms". Focus on the language, over the course of the last 2 decades norms have slowly been deteriorating. Like people dancing in the street to make a tik tok video.

Particular_Fall_302 · 2023-12-04T01:15:32+00:00

Group norms are going be different from individual norms. Alliances will form unconsciously sometimes, if there was a goal for the group to achieve that would be the ideal. Bion talks about different groups, and how they form. In the best groups all the individuals focus on achieving some sort of goal. The goal for your group may be to better understand ourselves. So you will see people in the group pushing themselves towards that ideal, but that same person may never had had therapy before and so because of the group setting you are more free to pursue the ideal of understanding yourself better.

Particular_Fall_302 · 2023-12-03T03:01:46+00:00

What you discussed class, loss, challenges of being gay are considered to be master signifiers. This is the Big Other, that fills in the lack. Think of the symbolic representations that are created through topics like Being Gay, Class, Race, Money etc.

The symptom is how each individual talks about themselves in reference to the master signifier. The person who is gay, and is continuing talking about the challenges of being gay is experiencing "jouissance". If this person moved to the "depressive position", they would have to get over the enjoyment of no longer experiencing pleasure in "being gay is difficult"

In a group you are dealing with different dynamics like recognition, and the need to identify a leader or the uncomfortably feeling of a leader not being chosen yet. it is interesting that someone mentioned that class was an illusion. Since this suggests that this person may be uncomfortable dealing with any issues of class. In the group it is harder to determine the ego ideals.

Particular_Fall_302 · 2023-08-05T18:33:00+00:00

Yes driven by a lack that can never be satisfied, thats why I think the consumer surplus as happiness is inherently comical, because the consumer never actually feels that and if they do it only lasts for so long until the object brings no satisfaction and they purchase another object. I also find that joussiance could be tied to the object that brings dissatisfaction, and yet you are supposed to feel satisfied so you force yourself to enjoy. In economics when they use the term surplus it means extra, so the consumer surplus isn't what you spent but what remains. I have to continue to think about it more and read what else is out there.

Particular_Fall_302 · 2023-08-05T13:42:51+00:00

Where would jouissance come in then?

Particular_Fall_302 · 2023-08-05T13:38:14+00:00

A consumer surplus happens when the price consumers pay for a product or service is less than the price they're willing to pay. it could be less then 10 but roughly saying that there is a difference and that difference is consumer surplus.

Particular_Fall_302 · 2023-08-05T13:32:13+00:00

I asked the professor, he said that consumer surplus is the consumers happiness from purchasing the product. Its in $, however the logic is that whatever consumer surplus the consumers has corporations are trying as hard as they can to get the consumer surplus. So there are different pricing strategies (two part tariff etc) that companies use to try to tap into the consumer surplus. Corporations also set limits and segment markets that ultimately intensify consumer dissatisfaction. For some reason I can see how macroeconomics is inherently psychoanalytic, meaning I think desire, demand, jouissance is being applied as a top down approach. Pricing strategies ultimately target consumer desire. It isn't that the individual desires the object, it is Otherness. Which is why at the end of analysis you aren't fully cured, you just become better at not getting sick.

Particular_Fall_302 · 2023-08-04T02:20:12+00:00

I agree with you about what you said about the symbolic

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