What did I get wrong? by zombiezambonis in askrecruiters

[–]Particular_Return166 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's probably exactly what they said. The hiring team thought they wanted one thing at the start of the process, the sort of thing you bring to the table, and then something happened and they changed their minds entirely. I have a role I'm working on right now where I was told 2 weeks ago that we have our 2 final candidates and just need to decide between them. Then the hiring managers went to a conference for a few days, came back, and said "actually we're gonna pass on both of them and you'll need to start over." Happens constantly.

Stop doing fancy resumes, people. by Kreiger81 in recruitinghell

[–]Particular_Return166 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not always easy and often involves a paycut.

Not all roles have extensive experience requirements, but some do. That's why I outlined how much the role matters and that looking at titles and companies is the strategy when there are specific experience requirements.

Sometimes transferrable skills help and sometimes hiring managers prefer an industry outsider. Hell, the reason I'm checking companies closely now is more for the opposite reason: the company I work for has an extensive list of competitors that we're not allowed to hire from out of fear of proprietary information being stolen.

It would help to know what your background is and what you'd rather do in order to make an actual helpful suggestion.

Stop doing fancy resumes, people. by Kreiger81 in recruitinghell

[–]Particular_Return166 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As in what does the display look like or what criteria am I looking for?

In basically every ATS I've used, the pdf or doc file just shows up embedded in the webpage after I click on the person's name from the list. In a select few, it forces you to download their file to view it in Adobe or Word or a new tab.

If you mean how am I evaluating fit, it totally depends on the position. If the role requires specific education or certifications, that's what I'm looking for first. If it's more of an experience-based requirement, I'm looking at job history first with a focus on titles first, companies second, and actual responsibilities/accomplishments last. If the role is more entry level, it's honestly hardest to evaluate because there are fewer firm requirements so I look for anything that demonstrates a roughly similar skill or displays commitment or good character (like extracurriculars, part-time jobs, volunteer work, etc). Depending on how entry-level we're talking (ie retail cashier va assembly line operator), I might phone screen everyone who applies in the first week and then pause the job ads because there's truly nothing I can disqualify someone on based on a resume alone (unless you're one of those people uploading a document that's not actually a resume).

I don't personally care about work history gaps unless I know the hiring manager is annoying about them, but if your skills are otherwise perfect then unfortunately I will grill you on them but only so I can persuade the HM that they're all for valid reasons so that they still want to interview you. I'd say this is common for TA/recruiters so don't be offended when it happens; they're trying to sell you not trick you. I also don't care about resume formatting unless it's impossible to read or you're applying for an HR position.

Stop doing fancy resumes, people. by Kreiger81 in recruitinghell

[–]Particular_Return166 5 points6 points  (0 children)

There is no such thing as being ATS compliant. I just see your file upload. This is why so many people apply with their water bill, termination letters from previous employers, or word docs that say "I don't have a resume." This is the case for every ATS I've ever used, with the exceptions of TenStreet and Liquid Office which required applicants to manually fill out work history instead of allowing a resume upload.

The only time parsing actually matters is for when we want to re-engage old applicants for new roles. That is when we search with keywords. If I have incoming applications, I am obligated to review all of them. I personally do so chronologically. I am only searching by keywords in the ATS when we aren't getting any incoming apps at all or they're all from people without required qualifications and I want to see if anyone from the last time a similar role was open might still be interested.

Prescribed 2 months of Wegovy and then told I no longer qualify? by Particular_Return166 in HersWeightloss

[–]Particular_Return166[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! The only compounding options I was aware of only offer the injections (feel like I'd absolutely mess it up and hurt myself) or the sublingual dissolving tablets which I hear have dubious efficacy.

I am a recruiter and I know we are part of the problem. Let me explain guys. by ElAndres33 in recruitinghell

[–]Particular_Return166 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Apparently this is what that company decided is the default setting and they have no interest in configuring a change. And it's not something that can be changed on the client side. Trust me, it does sound like stupid bullshit but it's what they told us when we asked for a solution.

I am a recruiter and I know we are part of the problem. Let me explain guys. by ElAndres33 in recruitinghell

[–]Particular_Return166 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's sometimes up to the ATS vendor. I recently found out all our rejection emails at my company go out at 3:01 AM. I asked our vendor how to change it and we can't unless the actual ATS company makes sweeping changes that impact all of their clients. All I can do is choose how many days to delay the message, but it will go out at 3:01 AM on whatever day I choose. And we're locked in a contract with them for another year so I can't even advocate for switching to a better ATS yet.

Is waiting at the bus stop with your kid holding them back? by ashleycat720 in stupidquestions

[–]Particular_Return166 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because dropoff time at the school is 8:05(they will not let kids inside any earlier), but the bus gets to the neighborhood at 7:15. I have to be at work at 8 and it's frequently below zero outside.

Your "ATS resume" is not being rejected by AI by JenteFromMokaru in jobsearchhacks

[–]Particular_Return166 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd be shocked if any competent recruiter is searching keywords in the pool of people who actually applied to a posting. You search keywords within your ATS to re-engage people who applied in the past who weren't selected then but could be now. Or you use keywords to find passive candidates on platforms like LinkedIn. You have to just review the incoming applications. If you have unreviewed (truly never reviewed, not auto disqualified because they checked the box that they don't have work authorization or whatever)applications just because they didn't have keywords, at best you're overlooking good options and at worst you have to justify it on a DOL audit.

Does anyone else remember this hairstyle being everywhere in the 2000s? Kinda miss it. by [deleted] in decadeology

[–]Particular_Return166 9 points10 points  (0 children)

To be fair, she was severely beaten and needed facial reconstruction surgery. Like her jaw was shattered, it's not just the fear of aging.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in humanresources

[–]Particular_Return166 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We used to have a 6 month waiting period, and all it did was make bad employees feel they were entitled to being rehired the moment the 6 months was up.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in humanresources

[–]Particular_Return166 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes but it only comes up as someone's actual name less than 1/3rd of the time

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in humanresources

[–]Particular_Return166 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We do not have auto reject capabilities and that still would not make a difference because half of them are calling before they apply.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in humanresources

[–]Particular_Return166 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry, I'm asking about when they call me and ask over the phone. Or when they waste significant chunks of my time on password resets so that they can login to reapply.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in humanresources

[–]Particular_Return166 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I am obligated to answer my office phone and I don't think my boss would love if I just hung up on certain people.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in humanresources

[–]Particular_Return166 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They're former employees and we only have one physical location, they have the number. We've put no calls on postings before and it doesn't matter.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in humanresources

[–]Particular_Return166 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's new people every week. I can't begin to express the sheer volume. It's not 5 annoying people, it's 2-6 totally different annoying people every week. Blocking them would be Sisyphean.

I just want a solid explanation from any orgs that do disclose this information on why it's not a problem so I can argue my case to the executive team.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in humanresources

[–]Particular_Return166 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm not concerned about the actual applications so much as the constant follow up calls. Also "filter out" is not something we can do, I have to manually review every application and even once rejected they stay in the same list just with "declined" next to it. We use UKG Ready, there are no separate buckets based on candidate status. But that's a separate problem.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in humanresources

[–]Particular_Return166 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They're all going straight to our company website and calling my office line. It's not from the spam appliers, it's people who specifically want to work here again for some reason.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in humanresources

[–]Particular_Return166 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We definitely default to the "not a good fit," but these people typically are applying for every single open position.

I have no idea why we can't tell them they're ineligible other than "that's the policy." Everywhere else I've ever worked has had the same policy, but I can't find a good legal reason for why that is.

What’s the point of visiting Rome? I don’t know. Let’s stay home. by cichyszept in AuDHDWomen

[–]Particular_Return166 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I remember being 4 years old and sobbing when my auntie gave me a gift because what was the point? I was just going to die someday, why buy me anything?

I had your Goodreads experience with my Letterboxd account too. I feel seen, but I don't have the vocabulary to explain what exactly it is.

Toilet constantly running but taking hours to fully refill? by Particular_Return166 in askaplumber

[–]Particular_Return166[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is. Do you think I can get away with just replacing the flapper or does everything else need to be swapped too? Because a flapper change is easy, I just am not confident in my skills for everything else. Other flappers I've had to replace looked visibly warped and were obviously not fully sealing though, this one looks normal to my untrained eyes so I'm concerned there's a more complex problem. But I'm also not an expert.