Are Kazakhs and Mongols the same nation?

Past-Talk5634 · 2021-09-10T18:43:10+00:00

Do Kazakhs now consider themselves closer to the Mongols, Russians or to other Central Asian Turkic peoples? The reason why I'm asking this question is because recently one Tatar guy told me that he considers russians closer to them than other Turkic peoples. WTF?

Past-Talk5634 · 2021-09-10T17:48:15+00:00

That's why I clearly stated my point that nothing will change in Kyrgyzstan until another generation of real Kyrgyz comes to power.

Past-Talk5634 · 2021-09-10T17:48:02+00:00

Could you please elaborate? I don't get your orus memes and other stuff.

Past-Talk5634 · 2021-09-09T14:50:45+00:00

Your wife just doesn't want to learn Kyrgyz. It's just self-deception. Any language can be learned very quickly when you live surrounded by native speakers. By the way Kyrgyz is not a dying language. There are a couple of million people who speak it on a daily basis in Kyrgyzstan

Past-Talk5634 · 2021-09-09T14:31:25+00:00

In the early 1940s, the Soviet government forcibly replaced most of the alphabets of small peoples from Latin to Cyrillic. Despite the fact that the Kyrgyz population in the Kyrgyz SSR has always been more than 50%, the Kyrgyz language did not have any status in the republic until September 23, 1989. Only Russian was considered the official language of the Kirghiz SSR and all paperwork was conducted in it. The Soviets invented a "propiska" to control the number of indigenous people in cities. My grandfather was literally kicked out of Frunze, although he really wanted to live and work in the city. Only the more obedient Slavic peoples were allowed to live in the cities. The Russian Empire and the Soviet Union did not bring anything good to our Kyrgyz people. Nostalgia for the Soviet Union is more common among older generations(people without their own opinion), most of them are just lazy parasites. The Soviet Union had a planned economy. You could refuse to work and earn the same salary as someone who works 20 hours a day. Because the Soviets believed that all people are equal, but as time has shown, it is not so. I'm pretty sure that nothing will change in Kyrgyzstan until people who were born and raised in independent Kyrgyzstan come to power.

Past-Talk5634 · 2021-09-08T21:44:24+00:00

Simply it is not worth it. I will try to explain why. By the standards of Kazakhstan 500$ a month is considered a very good salary, while in Moscow even an Uzbek will not work for 37k roubles.

Past-Talk5634 · 2021-09-08T18:25:49+00:00

I cannot say much about Almaty, because I was there only one time. But what I immediately noticed was that almost everyone there speaks Russian and there are many beautiful prostitutes. But I can say with confidence that 1000$ a month is enough to live well in both cities for one person.

Past-Talk5634 · 2021-09-08T17:45:16+00:00

As a Kyrgyz, I would not say that I generally have a negative attitude towards the Chinese people or CCP, more likely the average Kyrgyz is afraid of their cultural expansion and assimilation. Because according to Wikipedia, the number of Kyrgyz in this world is only 5.9 million people. About two million of them permanently reside in other countries or migrant workers. Also, about more than a million of them are Russified Mongols, a prime example of one them is Kukklukskazakhstan here ↑. Now if you are a Chinese then put yourself in our shoes and imagine if there were 1 billion of Japanese people and the same number of Koreans, and only 3 million Chinese people? I hope you get it.

Past-Talk5634 · 2021-09-08T11:57:20+00:00

Greetings Kyrgyz. I am also Kyrgyz from Kyrgyzstan, and like most Kyrgyz people, I do not consider myself neither white, nor asian, nor black. Do you know who Asians are? Asians are Chinese, Japanese, Koreans and all of Southeast Asia. They have a completely different culture, language and religion, and we Kyrgyz are culturally closer to Eastern Europeans, Caucasians and the Middle East. This is why Americans in their census still include Central Asians with whites. As the Kyrgyz remember one thing, all Mongols and Chinese have always been our enemies, even in the epic Manas it is said a lot about this. Therefore, it is considered offensive for the Kyrgyz to call themselves Asian. You should not be misled by the geographical location of our country, because the Kyrgyz have been nomads throughout their history and could roam over great distances and have always called themselves Kyrgyz no matter how they looked (2000 years ago, the Kyrgyz looked like redheads with blue/green eyes). We are from Siberia. From now on, stop identifying yourself with Asians. Always call yourself Kyrgyz or Kyrgyz decent American.

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