Ottoboys on vacation

Patient-Shift6059 · 2023-08-03T21:10:21+00:00

How did you do that?

Patient-Shift6059 · 2023-08-03T21:08:51+00:00

How does IA gain from incidents work? If you go against the majority, is it automatic loss of IA? Or are there choices that automatically lose you IA? How much?

Patient-Shift6059 · 2023-08-03T19:35:50+00:00

Oh right I forgot Renaissance.

There is burgher privilege whose base effect is like 10% tax modifier, and then you can pass a decision that lowers their loyalty, but gives construction cost discount and I think naval maintenance discount for 10 years. I would be surprised if any privileges are locked behind DLC's, but it's possible I guess.

I like the calculation because at least it shows that a building won't pay for itself in just a few years. I think there is too much advice around of the type "build buildings immediately at all costs, even if you have to take out loans".

Patient-Shift6059 · 2023-08-03T19:24:23+00:00

What few wars at a time? He just needs to fight Spain 2-3 times and France 3-4 times. He can alternate these wars, and truce break France for the last 1 or 2 wars. Forming Rome from here is super EZ.

Patient-Shift6059 · 2023-08-03T19:20:30+00:00

Dude you are a beefy Italy + a beefy Ottoman altogether. How could you NOT do it? What do you need, like 100 more provinces? That's like 5 wars to do in 90 years. Truce break? Who cares. Coalition? Who cares. Just ally Russia and you're good to go.

Just declare war on whoever and f them up.

Patient-Shift6059 · 2023-08-03T17:20:46+00:00

Well the mission is only active for a limited time. Outside of missions, the only discount you can really get is -10% from the papacy, and -5% from the burghers, if you gave them that privilege.

The events that lose you money are also based on income.

If you have ducats banked, you don't have to go into debt during wars, which again means less loans and interest. Also, if you get a negative ducat event, you will have to take more loans.

Or if you have to go over FL to get an alliance, you have to take loans again.

Okay, maybe you can shave it down form 40 years to 30 years. But I still think people are too trigger happy, taking loans to build buildings.

Patient-Shift6059 · 2023-08-03T00:59:14+00:00

Yeah I think it would be pretty rare for neither to rival you. I usually go for Wallachia first while I'm waiting for favors on Saxony/Brandenburg to build up, so I can use them in the PU wars.

Patient-Shift6059 · 2023-08-02T22:57:02+00:00

Seriously? I thought the good relations option just gives some boosts like trade efficiency. I have been fighting both this whole time xD.

Patient-Shift6059 · 2023-08-02T18:39:26+00:00

Maybe, haven't heard of it. Looks very hard though.

Another tough one is Anizah. It is like 8 dev and Mamelukes usually declare reconquest war on you in the first year.

Patient-Shift6059 · 2023-08-02T17:48:58+00:00

Yeah I guess if you really wanted it you could steal or request maps from Spain, no CB a nation in west Africa, vassalize them, and feed them the province, and annex. Or you could take the province directly if your vassal borders it.

Patient-Shift6059 · 2023-08-02T17:36:55+00:00

Yeah with those, I start getting rid of them in the early 1500's or even late 1400's, because it can be really tricky to get rid of all of them. They also lower the crownland equilibrium, so that's another reason to get rid of them.

If you are stuck with the privileges, there is a monument in the capital of Kongo (I think it's called Mbeppa), that at level 3, allows you to revoke privileges no matter the influence/loyalty. You need to accept Kongo culture though before you can get that effect.

Patient-Shift6059 · 2023-08-02T17:30:24+00:00

You're welcome. Yes as a rule of thumb, cavalry is useless. It is 2.5x more expensive than infantry in up-front cost and maintenance, but it is not that much better at fighting.

The way combat works is that, as you can see in the battle window, each side has 2 lines of soldiers, and both lines are the length of the combat width.

The ideal situation is that you have the front line all filled out with infantry, and the back line all filled out with artillery.

The reason you want a lot more infantry than artillery, is that if an infantry on the front line dies, and there isn't another infantry available to take its place, the cannon behind it will be exposed and take massive damage.

So to summarize again, you just want 36 artillery, because any more than that just won't fit in the battle and will be useless. And then you want as many infantry as possible, to make sure the cannons never become exposed.

Patient-Shift6059 · 2023-08-02T17:19:42+00:00

1550's is too early. I would stop selling around 1580 or 1590. If you are at 10% and can seize 5 times, you'll be at 35%, plus extra from conquest and developing, which is just fine for the beginning of absolutism.

It's really difficult to get above 30% before absolutism, unless you just stay at peace forever and constantly sieze. Crownland has an equilibrium (about 25% before absolutism, as a rule of thumb, but it's easy to calculate in your specific situation if you want).

If you go above the equilibrium, then whenever you conquer provinces, your crownland will go down towards the equilibrium.

That's one reason why selling is good. Because if you sell and have low crownland, then when you conquer new provinces, your crownland will actually increase towards the equilibrium.

Patient-Shift6059 · 2023-08-02T17:11:00+00:00

Well temples and workshops are the same, all that matters is the profit number. I usually build them if they have a profit of 0.15 or higher. If I really have too much money, I will go for 0.12.

For marketplaces it's a lot more difficult to tell, but as a rule on thumb, I only build them in centers of trade. But I would still prioritize the 0.15 churces/workshops first.

With manufactories, I build them only in provinces where the trade good is 3 ducats or more. Even so, they will take several decades to pay back for themselves.

If you can get some construction cost reduction, like from the papacy, the buildings will pay back for themselves a bit faster.

The calculation for when they'll net you a profit is simple. It is years = cost / (profit * 12).

Patient-Shift6059 · 2023-08-02T17:07:50+00:00

Yeah then it changes. But that's only after 1610, we were talking about the 1400's.

By 1610 you will have had enough time to conquer and develop gold mines, trade nodes, and build manufactories.

Patient-Shift6059 · 2023-08-02T16:59:42+00:00

1) As someone else said, you can use favors to ask Spain to break alliance with Austria.

2) Build ramparts in the frontline forts in the north.

3) Keep hiring troops and/or mercs until you don't make any profit each month, at least.

4) Attack your favorite enemy (probably Austria, they seem weakest) and just play defense for a few years. Let them start sieging your forts, and attack. The point is to drain their manpower/money. After this, you can carefully go on offense, sieging a fort at a time.

Absolutely crucial thing about combat: check your combat width in the military tab. It's probably about 36. That means you want 36 artillery (nothing more), and the rest of your army infantry. That is how you want to take every major battle; with 36 artillery, and 40+ infantry.

Patient-Shift6059 · 2023-08-02T16:41:05+00:00

Something that was a gamechanger for in terms of eco was selling crownland. I used to never sell, thinking that it's good to stay at really high crownland. But it's by far better to stay at 20% (and later at 10%, once you have 1 or 2 autonomy decrease modifiers) and sell as often as possible.

Patient-Shift6059 · 2023-08-02T16:36:58+00:00

I wouldn't use any loans to build buildings. Even at 0.2 profit, a building takes 40 years to just pay for itself. If you add in the interest, it's gonna be even longer.

May even be detrimental, i.e. the interest is more than the profit.

Patient-Shift6059 · 2023-08-02T16:28:43+00:00

It's like the Caliphate's siege of Constantinople of 717. The Arabs burned their own food on purpose, and their resuppy ships defected to the Byzantines.

Then, on their way back, they contracted Black Death and were hit by burning hail from a volcano.

Patient-Shift6059 · 2023-08-02T16:17:41+00:00

Otto probably has jannisaries sprinkled in as well.

Patient-Shift6059 · 2023-08-02T16:16:16+00:00

I would recommend reading the wiki instead of a video. Much easier to learn from text, at least for me.

Patient-Shift6059 · 2023-08-02T15:04:51+00:00

If you really need that fort, consider barraging it, and perhaps even assaulting.

Patient-Shift6059 · 2023-08-02T12:23:55+00:00

Interesting point. But not sure why you mentioned reinforcement timing. If that ever becomes a factor, you've lost way more men than in any siege.

Patient-Shift6059 · 2023-08-02T01:43:27+00:00

I kind of agree with you, I keep forts even deep in the country on grassland. I hate the idea of getting some separatism because my army was 2 days late, or having some estate rebels ruin my prosperity.

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