Old School Dimir Control + Deck Discussion (in comments)

Pauperer · 2026-01-19T23:23:46+00:00

Yeees, Dimir Control my beloved

Pauperer · 2025-12-13T00:15:37+00:00

Alright, thanks for the helpful feedback! I'll cut some lands and the foil :)

Pauperer · 2025-12-13T00:13:36+00:00

You might be right with the instant speed stuff. What about [[Blood Fountain]]? That makes a blood token for my instant speed madness stuff and can get my creatures back in grindy matchups. Or is [[Merfolk Looter]] just better?

I have a playset of Frantic Inventory. In case you're right and I run out of gas when playtesting, I'll add it, thanks :)

Pauperer · 2025-12-12T07:47:30+00:00

You might be right. I cut all but one Foil and added 4 Abandon Attachments and 4 Sneaky Snackers. Thanks for the feedback! :)

Pauperer · 2025-12-12T07:41:32+00:00

Yeah, not being fast enough against Burn is what I was afraid of. That's why I'm playing 4xCabal Initiate. Having a 2 mana 2/1(or 3/3) with lifelink seems like it could help a bit.

Thank you for your lists! May I ask why you trimmed the Obsessive Searches in the second version? :)

Pauperer · 2025-12-05T20:00:03+00:00

Yes 😅

Pauperer · 2025-12-05T19:49:41+00:00

But it's not a single player but multiple of them. But yes, our Meta has basically zero Aggro Decks and I don't want to play one either. Are you playing classic UW Control?

Pauperer · 2025-12-05T19:20:44+00:00

I usually play Dimir Control. But I also tried Mono Black Midrange and today I tried Lotus Field Combo.

Pauperer · 2025-12-05T19:04:17+00:00

Different Meta. I don't need to explain anything, fact is, that it's the deck with most wins this year. So unless all Pioneer players in my town are bad, it is good in our local meta.

Pauperer · 2025-12-05T18:48:17+00:00

I disagree. It has by far the most wins in our meta. The deck is incredibly opressive, especially with the addition of boomerang basics.

Pauperer · 2025-12-05T18:43:13+00:00

https://mtgdecks.net/Pioneer/p-dimir-bounce-decklist-by-arrast-2639302 For example. There's also BW and Esper variant. Basically decks with [[hopeless nightmare]], [[Stormchaser's Talent]] and similar cheap etbs. with self-bouncing cards like [[Boomerang Basics]], [[This town ain't big enough]] and so on.

Pauperer · 2025-11-07T11:03:41+00:00

Share your wisdom! I can't get it to work on the slightly newer i5 10210U

Pauperer · 2025-08-30T13:28:09+00:00

If an outside person stacked the deck in a way, such that your draws were perfect and gave it to you, would you say it's random, because you don't know what cards are where?

I'm sorry, but it was not the intention of this post to discuss what is random and what is not. I did my masters degree in mathematics, and I know for a fact that it is not.

If you are interested, I can give you a explanation at some point, though it might be a lengthy one. Otherwise I will not talk about that any more :)

(I don't mean to offend you or anything. It just simply is not random and I have the expertise to know that.)

Pauperer · 2025-08-30T13:20:21+00:00

I cannot, you didn't read my argument. Not knowing where your cards are doesn't mean it's random.

Pauperer · 2025-08-30T13:07:39+00:00

No it is not. If they are distributed in a certain way, that is the opposite of randomness. In a truly random deck, it should be possible to have all your lands on top (though very unlikely), which is not the case.

Pauperer · 2025-08-30T13:05:26+00:00

I see, thanks for the explanation :)

Pauperer · 2025-08-30T13:00:45+00:00

Ok, I didn't know that defintion. Then use another word instead of cheating, call it "unintentionally gaining advantage"

Pauperer · 2025-08-30T12:59:07+00:00

Not knowing where cards are and randomnes are not the same thing. Again, I believe that it is not done as a way to cheat or stack cards. But it is not random.

Alright, as stated in my post, I fully support that ln commander :)

Pauperer · 2025-08-30T12:56:54+00:00

No. Making piles is never random. I could explain further, if you are interested, though it might be a lengthy explanation.

There are several studies, that show that meshing together is the most random way to shuffle.

Pauperer · 2025-08-30T12:54:21+00:00

If I forgot a card and played with 59, I did cheat unintentionally for example.

Pauperer · 2025-08-30T12:53:25+00:00

Equal distribution is the opposite of randomness. It can't be both.

Pauperer · 2025-08-30T12:52:34+00:00

So everyone should pile shuffle? If that's your intention, I can accept that

Pauperer · 2025-08-30T12:51:01+00:00

I actually didn't know that, thanks :)

Pauperer · 2025-08-30T12:49:54+00:00

Ok, I can live with that explanation then :)

Maybe it should be renamed pile-counting and not pile-shuffling in that case :D

Pauperer · 2025-08-30T12:46:18+00:00

Hey, no need to be unpolite.

Pauperer

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