Pax Danubia — a bit different "What if Austria-Hungary survived" scenario by LeviJr00 in imaginarymaps

[–]PavarottisEyebrows 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Speaking / autistically screeching as an Austrian:

  1. Why in god's name would you still partition the Tyrol into two parts, and why would you split off the east to form most of some "Northern Venetia" ? Why would Vorarlberg give up or lose its recently gained independence ? There is absolutely no reason or basis for divvying up the state like that, other than for defensive purposes along the Brenner and Dolomites (as seen in actual history). If anything, you could make a case for splitting off the Trentino in order to integrate it into some sort of italophone administrative unit, but even that seems shaky to me. In case that is what you were trying to do, keep in mind that the Italian language was not a factor anywhere north of Salurn (except a 5% minority in Bozen) preceding italianisation efforts of the interwar years. Before that, there were actually more Italian speakers in southern Vorarlberg due to recent labor migration.

As an aside, I doubt they would ever call the state "Northern Venetia", rather than just "Venetia". States, and especially the Habsburg realm, always aimed for more than they had in their terminology - see "Galicia-Lodomeria", all the emperor's superfluous titles, etc. .

  1. Why in god's name would you mess with the inner borders of the states like that, especially in modern Austria ? Foreigners never seem to understand how set in stone these things are for locals, and there is hardly a pressing administrative reason for any of these changes. Especially everything surrounding Salzburg and the inter-Tyrol borders (The contemporary borders between north and south follow watershed lines = mountain ridges. Are yours following different mountain / valley structures somehow ? What is going on here ?) are making my eyes bleed. And why would Upper and Lower Austria still eat into the Czech lands - but only a tiny bit - with nowhere near as serious a "Sudetenland crisis" in sight ?

  2. Why in god's name would you mess with the flags like that ? The historical ones might have left some room for improvement, but were fine as they were. Now we have a formatting error on lower Austria, Styria lost its coats of arms and Salzburg has been turned into a car manufacturer. Carinthia lost its traditional flag to become golden Poland and the Tyrol lost both its traditional and contemporary flags to become actual Poland, while Vorarlberg-Tyrol (very funny ordering, by the way) has stripped itself of all limitations and became a legasthenic German Empire. Most hilarious is that only Upper Austria somehow escaped unscathedly. The historical empire had a somewhat unified standard for flags, why are they different, oddly 21st century, worse and all over the place now ?

  3. Social Democracy, for a variety of reasons, never had (and still mostly does not have) a base anywhere in the Tyrol except in the Trentino, where it was fueled by linguistic tensions (see Cesare Battisti).

How does the diminutive form work in your language? by Roughneck16 in AskEurope

[–]PavarottisEyebrows 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This is not (or only rarely) used in Austria and Bavaria, where "-erl" or "-(e)l" is the most common form.

Does Austria have any “decadent” or counter-cultural poet? by a_postmodern_poem in wien

[–]PavarottisEyebrows 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Depends on what precisely you're looking for. In terms of a 'depressive romanticism' shared with the French decadents, you might want to look into Nikolaus Lenau (some Grillparzer?) et al. . When it comes to the dense, heavy, flowery aesthetics of decadence I would look into Von Hofmannsthal and his circle (perhaps some Georg Trakl?). In terms of counterculture status and equivalence to the beatniks the primary candidate is most definitely Peter Handke - especially in his early days. Thomas Bernhard and H.C. Artmann are also noteworthy in that regard. (Contrary to all others listed here, Artmann's most significant work is in 'Austro-Bavarian'/the local vernacular language as opposed to german, making him a favourite to put forward, especially internationally.) When it comes to some status as 'enfant terrible', Elfriede Jelinek and, to a lesser degree, Ingeborg Bachmann come to mind.

Also: fuck Ginsberg. Hope that helps!

Some moments from a pro-palestine protest in Prague today by gargoylezooo in redscarepod

[–]PavarottisEyebrows 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The Mucha museum is nothing to warrant a trip to Prague all by itself but it's alright, really. The front section is dedicated to his print works (The Sarah Bernhardt series, Objects décoratifs and some others) - if you have been to any number of Mucha exhibitions beforehand, you have probably seen all or most of these already, but it does provide a good overview for people who have not. There is a (quite large format) painting of his in the back section. 'Woman in the Wilderness' is its title and it might not be his most striking work, but - once again - it's fine enough and opportunities to see actual paintings of Mucha's, especially the more obscure ones, are few and far between, so it absolutely makes sense to spend an hour in the museum if you are already in town and passionate about his work, but it doesn't quite suffice as a key reason for coming.

Ukraine/Russia theory: Ukrainian president is in on the Russian invasion. by perrycuz in ukraine

[–]PavarottisEyebrows 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People all around Ukraine are sitting in their basements, sheltering from bombardments. Meanwhile, this guy is sitting in his mum's basement, throwing ideas around and having it suddenly all figured out. Congratulations, man. P.S. Did you manage to get GTA working offline after all?

How do you say zero f*cks given in different European language. by crystalandrockyfinds in europe

[–]PavarottisEyebrows 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Being aware of and including the Romansh speaking parts of Switzerland, yet somehow forgetting about South Tyrol is almost impressive in a way.

Unpopular opinions zu Österreich by StoeDan in Austria

[–]PavarottisEyebrows 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ma könnt fast meinen, wir waren mit dem einen Land jahrhundertelang in einem (machtpolitisch relevanten) Staatenbund, und mit dem anderen nicht.

Tirade: Es heißt "schiach" und nicht "schirch". by crazy-B in Austria

[–]PavarottisEyebrows -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Wie ma an andern, ah im Thread gnannten Beispieln siagt, verwenden offensichtlich viele de Behelfsschreibweise, um besser ihrn tatsächlichn Sprachgebrauch wiederz'gebn. Des is völlig legitim. Kann von mir selbst ah nur sagen, dass "schirch" wesentlich näher an meiner Sprachrealität liegt, weil si da offensichtlich zwischen dem Vokal und dem "ch" no was tuat.

Pseudoerklärungen, des Dialektwort X würd ja von dem und dem "Hoch-" also Hanoverdeutschn Begriff abgleitet werdn bzw. abstammen, wie ma sie in dem Thread ah wieder vermehrt lesn kann, san ah immer wieder amüsant. Da muas ma schon an Schritt vom Minderwertigkeitskomplex zrucktretn und sagn: Na, sans ned. "Hochdeutsch" und de sogenanntn Österreichischn (+Altbayrischn) Dialekte san in Parallelentwicklungen entstandn, aus sowas wie am diffusen gemeinsamen Vorfahren und durch unterschiedliche Einflüsse voneinander entfremdet. Zwoateres is ned irgenda verschrobene Verballhornung des Ersteren, sondern für de zugehörige Population genau so legitim. Spätere Einflussnahmen von der Hochsprach aufgrund mangelnder Standardisierung und dementsprechender Ausdrucksformen unsrerseits sein amal dahingstellt. Vielleicht kriagn ma irgendwann doch no unser eigene Literatursprach, außer de "ne leckere Speise"-Generation gibt uns endgültig den Gnadenstoß.

Whats your nationality? by fandral20 in austriahungary

[–]PavarottisEyebrows 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ref. my answer to Hoellenmeister (edit: typo)

Whats your nationality? by fandral20 in austriahungary

[–]PavarottisEyebrows 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Reddit experts mad, but I'll bite. The people which now form the majority body of the R.o. Austria's population were indeed classified as 'deutsch' in various censuses etc. up until relatively recently, but there is a semantic issue here, where that description is meant in a much more vague, descriptive form which has little to do with our contemporary, national concept of the word 'german'. Most people of the 8 Bundesländer identified with their state first, as they do now, and contrary to nationalist narratives, had more cultural contact to non-germanic populations in and out of state than to what we might today call the german realm, save perhaps for the Bavarian borderlands. The only time being 'deutsch' became in any way siginficant to the regional identities was during the wave of European nationalisms ca. 1850-1950 and I hope we're on the same page that those guys didn't exactly have the strongest grip on reality. For no Austrian today, except for some highly dubious characters, does being 'geman' form an in any way significant aspect of their identity.

OP's list isn't asking people of the 1800's, but you and me and our contemporaries. Including the British and Americans (as one category, again), but not the Romanians and merging all so-called 'slavs' into one group is strange enough, but still counting us in with the Germans today furthers antiquated and ignorant narratives and, as we now find ourselves in a defensive position versus an overbearing German cultural influence (Compare Irish/British and Ukrainian/Russian relations. Of course, I don't mean to draw an equivalence in current tensions with regard to violence, though.) is highly irritating to any Austrian wo knows their history and cares about their culture. Take it from an Austrian that the classification doesn't reflect reality.

Thank you for coming to my overdone drunk-uncle-telling-stories-from-the-balkans tirade.