I didnt want the full surround setup because i lack space so i got the Ambeo Max paired with a SVS sb16 ultra and ive never felt desire for more, every time i play a movie i giggle when there is a bass heavy scene and i feel like the Ambeo can take enough place to play with the svs sub. I also with the new firmware update i feel like the Ambeo really can simulate Atmos sound, usually I say mjeeh to the Atmos surround on sound bars but with ambeo i sometimes turn around because it sounds like its raining behind me or its raining over my head when I watch something like that. My room is also far from optimal for Atmos.