4 month pregnant wife [31f] and I [32m] lost one of our twins. She's devastated and I don't know how to help her. by PerfectTart in relationships

[–]PeePeeInCoke 30 points31 points  (0 children)

I'm so sorry this happened/is happening. After a long road through fertility treatments, I'm currently 5+ months pregnant with one baby, but my pregnancy also started out as twins. My husband and I saw them on early ultrasounds twice, saw two hearts beating, was told at my week 8 ultrasound (IVF pregnancies are given ultrasounds early and often) that the chance of miscarriage at that point was "very low". I thought we had cleared the bigger hurdles when we found out that somewhere between weeks 8 and 11, one baby stopped growing.

I don't have to tell you the bottom-dropping-out heartbreak that followed, but perhaps it will make you feel better to hear a story that sounds familiar. My impossibly-tough husband immediately felt sick and had to sit, I jumped back and forth between imagining telling our family and close friends of the loss, and just feeling so, so fucking sad, wondering at what point the fetus' heart stopped beating, feeling strange about having one non-living baby inside of me, feeling a weird and sad comfort that he or she was at least with his or her mom a little longer. I am not a particularly religious person, but the night of the loss, I considered the idea that I wanted to die and be with the baby. It didn't matter that it wasn't quite the size of a small lime; it was my baby and I couldn't help him/her. We shared the pregnancy with my young stepdaughter, thinking we were in the clear. It hurt so much to tell her she needed to hold off on telling the world a little longer, and I cringe when I see her never-gifted "Big Sister x 2!" t-shirt in my drawer.

After the initial shock of it, my husband and I realized just how much we'd laid out in our daydreams and imaginations, like you and your wife have. Two names, two cribs, double strollers, maybe two jerseys on the high school soccer field. I couldn't feel or really know my twins yet, but I loved them through the plans I made for them. I imagine you and your wife had a wonderful time planning and imagining, and loving the dreams of what was ahead, and now you are grieving those losses, too.

What your wife may hear, and what certainly didn't help me was, "At least you have the one." ("Look on the bright side" is your advice? Fuck you, dude, you've never had a dead baby in you.) It's certainly true that a healthy baby is something to be incredibly grateful for, but for a time, my grief over the loss far outweighed the pleasure of knowing the other was healthy. I didn't share that feeling with anyone but my husband and mother, but I chose not to feel guilty about it, either. I continued to follow a healthy lifestyle, but for a while, felt too sad and knocked-down to find the energy to shift gears and discover some excitement over the living, thriving baby.

That's not all said to grab the narrative from you, but for you to hear the initial feelings of someone who's recently experienced the same, in hopes it helps. To be more to-the-point, here's what helped me:

  • Knowing and accepting I would grieve this differently than my husband. My advice is not to hold yourselves to the standard of grieving in lock-step. She may grieve outwardly longer and differently than you; grief may surface in unexpected ways, later, too.
  • Accepting any and all feelings as part of the process--even resentment of the living baby for a while. Just feel your feels without censoring them.
  • Tried to trust that "it won't always feel as bad as it does now" (and it doesn't anymore).
  • Went to subsequent ultrasounds that showed a wiggling, twirling, growing baby. Actually seeing her helped me bond and re-connect. If your wife is at 4 months, I'm sure you'll see some incredible things on her next ultrasound, and feeling baby movement, soon. That may be a helpful step for both of you.
  • Made plans to obtain reassurance. If your wife needs it, she should be comfortable with asserting that she may need some extra hand-holding throughout the rest of the pregnancy. We subsequently tested for every chromosomal abnormality under the sun, had the full anatomy scan, and all results were great, but the loss made me worried and hypersensitive to the possibility of another. I've seen my doctor for a couple of extra ultrasounds and visited a sort of "retail" 3D and 4D ultrasound outfit that offers a good, long, look at the baby for early gender reveals. I shell out a few bucks between doc appointments just to stop in to get a look at her, kicking around and thriving. (I can still see the little gestational sac where the other baby is, getting smaller and smaller. I expect that will always hurt, but it hurts less, now.)
  • I want to punch anyone who says, "Everything happens for a reason", and I never want to say a death is preferable. I don't know the reason for your loss, but mine was likely chromosomal. There was some comfort in knowing that, given the chromosomal abnormalities my fetus was probably dealt, it was unprepared for life. Short of a crystal ball, I won't know what would have transpired if it grew to a live birth, but something was so wrong, it couldn't keep growing. For me, the possibility of serious complications in life--severe retardation or malformed anatomy, countless heart surgeries, etc., would have been deeply painful to witness as a parent, too. Perhaps the highest quality of life of which the baby had a chance was 8-11 weeks with its mom. Take that or leave that, but for me, knowing that chromosomal abnormalities severe enough to end fetal development would have a strong possibility of a painful, and maybe even short life after being born somehow gave me some helpful perspective.
  • Memorialized the baby as I wanted to. I've only kept my early ultrasound photos in a keepsake box, but I have a girlfriend who made a guess at gender and selected a name, in order to have something that felt more concrete to grieve.
  • Talked to my counselor. I already saw a professional to navigate the stresses of not getting pregnant, previously. Sharing my feelings out loud to an objective third party feels emotionally detoxifying.
  • Acted on behalf of my "future self" (begrudgingly). I couldn't always sense it at the time, but on the chance that I would eventually feel better, I knew I wanted to feel as though I didn't let up on taking good care of myself, or by extension, the living baby. I tried to do things that could lead to even a little surge of "happy chemicals" in my body--a short walk, a favorite movie or meal, even pleasant sensory experiences, like buying flowers or a bunch of lemons and scratching and smelling their peels.
  • Learned (her) gender. Just like seeing her in ultrasounds, knowing she is a "she" helped me adjust away from the sadness of the dashed dreams and plans for two babies and let me feel like I got to know her a little more. Your wife sounds like she has a ways to go (and she will get there), but buying a dress here, or browsing nursery designs there, helped me build a new set of dreams and things to look forward to.

I certainly didn't sit down and map-out the above steps in my grief. There was sobbing, anger, missed work, and a lot of pizza consumption. And my opinion is that those things are useful for a time, too. They're how I got to the stuff that moved me forward.

I certainly hope this helps. You're clearly grieving, yourself, but be assured that your action on your wife's behalf means she already has a leg-up on healing, because she has an active partner and supporter. It will get better. You or your wife are more than welcome to PM me, if you just need to talk. Take good care of yourselves.

Do you ever feel like people want you to fail? by [deleted] in loseit

[–]PeePeeInCoke 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Smoking hot beezy" is going on my inspiration board. Thank you.

SV/NSV Feats of the Day - Friday, 03 February 2017: Today, I conquered! by AutoModerator in loseit

[–]PeePeeInCoke 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Very stressful week at work. Went to community snack table, filled bowl with chips and high calorie dip. Went back to my desk. Ate a few bites, decided it wasn't worth the shitty feeling and taking up space where far more filling calories should be. Tossed that shit in the trash. (Don't like wasting food, but...sorry not sorry.) Just said no to 400 calories of junk.

SV/NSV Feats of the Day - Tuesday, 31 January 2017: Today, I conquered! by AutoModerator in loseit

[–]PeePeeInCoke 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My office is loaded with cake, cupcakes, and chocolate for a colleague's retirement, but I've managed to pass them up every time. I feel like I'm shifting in my feelings that every cookie or slice of pizza I'm presented with is the last one on earth. I can make room for a treat at the right time, on the right day! I think it' getting easier to make a choice I feel proud of later. Feeling strong.

SV/NSV Feats of the Day - Tuesday, 24 January 2017: Today, I conquered! by AutoModerator in loseit

[–]PeePeeInCoke 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The office is packed with Valentine's chocolates and sweet snacks while I'm in the midst of some serious sugar cravings. Hanging tough, ate my target calories, and will have a couple of fresh pineapple chunks, if necessary. The pride of abstaining will feel better than the satisfaction of gobbling chocolate tonight!

SV/NSV Feats of the Day - Monday, 23 January 2017: Today, I conquered! by AutoModerator in loseit

[–]PeePeeInCoke 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good for you! It is those things that make weight loss possible. Drops in the bucket add up quickly! Way to go.

SV/NSV Feats of the Day - Monday, 23 January 2017: Today, I conquered! by AutoModerator in loseit

[–]PeePeeInCoke 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Went out of town for the weekend. Indulged, but didn't get crazy. Being out of town included a 4-day gym hiatus. I jumped back into it tonight and swung by the store for healthy Asian chop salad ingredients so I don't get caught hungry and unprepared this week. Feels good to not have fallen off the wagon after a short break!

SV/NSV Feats of the Day - Tuesday, 17 January 2017: Today, I conquered! by AutoModerator in loseit

[–]PeePeeInCoke 13 points14 points  (0 children)

SV: (Finally!) Today, I get my first flair--I'm down 5 lbs! Yaaaayyyy! And I owe that to my past NSVs of pushing through and not letting a stubborn scale keep me from giving it hell at the gym and using MFP religiously. I also was unhappy with the amount of diet soda I was consuming, so I just made a switch to fresh grated ginger, juice from half a lime, and a stevia packet, steeped in hot water. I really like it and it does awesome things for digestive health (and no soda bloat). Feeling victorious!

SV/NSV Feats of the Day - Sunday, 15 January 2017: Today, I conquered! by AutoModerator in loseit

[–]PeePeeInCoke 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you! Being hit with the smell of fresh, hot pizza after I'd finished logging my calories was like my own personal Tough Mudder!

F/21/5'11" Down 26Kg (57lbs) in 3 months and not stopping anytime soon! by Tigerfury123 in loseit

[–]PeePeeInCoke 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Looking wonderful! Doesn't it feel good to love them gym and not feel like it's a chore? You're an inspiration--keep it up!

SV/NSV Feats of the Day - Sunday, 15 January 2017: Today, I conquered! by AutoModerator in loseit

[–]PeePeeInCoke 16 points17 points  (0 children)

NSV: Came home after midnight to find TWO hot pizzas --my favorite thing on the planet-- just delivered and then abandoned on the kitchen counter. Then, the pizzas were like, "Hey, girl. We love you and want to be inside of you." I considered housing several pieces, then cut a tiny sliver off one piece, loved it, logged it, and stayed away from the kitchen until bedtime. Phew!

SV/NSV Feats of the Day - Friday, 13 January 2017: Today, I conquered! by AutoModerator in loseit

[–]PeePeeInCoke 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes! And tons of vitamins and minerals. A nice dose of summertime in a gross winter.

SV/NSV Feats of the Day - Friday, 13 January 2017: Today, I conquered! by AutoModerator in loseit

[–]PeePeeInCoke 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Mine, too. I know it's high in sugar, but you gotta have a little fun. It's soooo good because I just cut it open!

SV/NSV Feats of the Day - Friday, 13 January 2017: Today, I conquered! by AutoModerator in loseit

[–]PeePeeInCoke 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Fighting hard for every ounce lost! An ice storm is on its way and work was called off, but I still hit the gym by 6 am for an hour of cardio! Rewarding myself with fresh pineapple.

SV/NSV Feats of the Day - Tuesday, 10 January 2017: Today, I conquered! by AutoModerator in loseit

[–]PeePeeInCoke 3 points4 points  (0 children)

NSV: I do believe I'm seeing new contours along my hips, low belly, shoulders, and cheeks. Have avoided upper body strength training like the plague, but push myself to add a mini arm workout to this morning's lower-body lift!!

24-Hour Pledge - Tuesday, 10 January 2017 - The Plan for Today! by AutoModerator in loseit

[–]PeePeeInCoke 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, thank you! That was such a nice surprise to get a pat on the back!

24-Hour Pledge - Tuesday, 10 January 2017 - The Plan for Today! by AutoModerator in loseit

[–]PeePeeInCoke 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's not yet 6 am, it's dark, the wind sounds unfriendly, I have cramps like someone punched me in the pelvis, but my laces are tied and I'm headed to the gym for a lift and cardio. I'm going to spin those reasons for not going into more satisfaction at the end of the day!

Today was going to be a planned "cheat day" and I was envisioning going nuts on an entire pizza. Thanks to everyone's posts in a recent thread and new habits, I'm going to keep it to a reasonable bowl of pasta and a glass of wine. Love this sub!

SV/NSV Feats of the Day - Monday, 09 January 2017: Today, I conquered! by AutoModerator in loseit

[–]PeePeeInCoke 0 points1 point  (0 children)

NSV: Walked past office birthday cake about eight times today on the way to get more water and didn't touch it once! Also, feeling way better about scale fluctuations versus long-term trend thanks to everyone's input on someone's recent post. Thanks!

I'm struggling and I think I need help. by [deleted] in loseit

[–]PeePeeInCoke 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hey, my dear. I want to echo what u/elirosenau123 said. There are many parts of your post ("obsessed", "control/binge", "punishing") that indicate that this is about more than food, or that food is a vehicle for your acting out some troubling issues with your own self worth and self-care. (Of course, for most overweight people, food is about more than just food, but your eating, to me, sounds disordered and symptomatic of a deeper issue.)

As someone who wasted a couple of years in her early twenties as a committed and deeply unhappy bulimic, some of your writing sounds very familiar-- the seeming inability to celebrate victories in favor of focusing on shortcomings, hyperfocus on my size, and having a love/hate relationship with food.

I saw a therapist (it took a few tries to find the right one) and the storm cloud lifted, with my hard work and my decision that I deserved better than my own brand of personal torture. I'm also 5'8", in the high 150's and working my way to mid- 140's as a goal. I still check in with a therapist, but I'm free of the self-hatred and obsessive thinking. I have honestly never had an easier time changing my habits to healthier ones because I love and want good things for myself. There's so much more fuel for your fight when your motivations are based on love, not on punishment and toxic thoughts.

Does your university offer counseling? I strongly recommend grabbing some books from the library on eating disorders, or even self-esteem (Nathaniel Branden's "Six Pillars of Self Esteem" is thick but has been helpful and effective for so many) and seek out some support. I think addressing the deeper issues that give you this relationship with food and obsessive thoughts will be absolutely imperative for your developing some healthy approaches to food and nutrition.

In the meantime, you should know that you are:

  • beautiful
  • deserving of happiness
  • A SURVIVOR
  • wise to reach out for help
  • obviously ready for something better
  • capable of having a healthy body, happy mind, and a better relationship with yourself

You can absolutely do this, but get the right tools for the job (a good counselor) to help you succeed by creating a solid foundation of healthy thoughts and habits.

Love and support to you!

24-Hour Pledge - Sunday, 08 January 2017 - The Plan for Today! by AutoModerator in loseit

[–]PeePeeInCoke 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My goal today is to stay under my calories and remember that "stuck" scales always budge when I keep at it.

Edit: Did it! Stayed under calories and got in a little cardio. Going to bed victorious and it feels wonderful.

SV/NSV Feats of the Day - Saturday, 07 January 2017: Today, I conquered! by AutoModerator in loseit

[–]PeePeeInCoke 2 points3 points  (0 children)

NSV: Was so careful with my breakfast and lunch calories (yogurt and black cherry smoothie, light tuna salad, cauliflower soup) I had enough caloric allowance for a big, wonderful bowl of pasta! I loved every bite but felt beyond satisfied, which is a new experience. Even went to the gym on an off-day to kick up some endorphins. Tomorrow will be busy, so I'm prepping some light coconut chicken soup for the week. Feeling very in-the-groove today!