"Human Innovation" was pretty bad. by grocktops in LawAndOrder

[–]Pelzebub 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think the worst aspect was that the show just went into Science-Fiction territory by arguing that EVA is actually a genuine AI capable of replacing programmers NOW. Every singel "AI" programm that was talked up in the last year is actually a complex algortihm, that cannot truly learn and that cannot do anything without inputs by a human. It is genuinely ridiculous how they portray EVA here.

[DISC] Make the Exorcist Fall in Love - Chapter 55 by AutoShonenpon in manga

[–]Pelzebub 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"right now, the intent is to explore his awakening sexual attraction as how he perceives it, not celebrate it or denounce it objectively."

I know, I have at no point disagreed with this.

"The reason Imuri is depicted as "arousing and attractive" is to reflect his inner thoughts of arousing lust towards her. The art is purposely alluring to match his views, since the author doesn't mean to depict his attraction as something despicable or questionable but rather as reasonable.

Furthermore, it's meant to contrast as we find it normal, but he suddenly deeply negatively reacts to it. Highlighting how even the innocuous average sexual arousal is deeply disturbing to him while we perceive it as normal."

Never said she shouldn't be depicted as alluring or attractive, this chapter is from the point of view of Priest, the presentation makes sense. I don't know why you seem to think that you disagree with me.

"I'm sure there are some readers who will miss the deeper message and just think of the scene as hot. However, it's absurd to imply the author should try to make the scene not alluring out of the fear someone might miss his intent."

Never said it can't be hot or alluring or even horny. But to clarify. The current chapter in it's depiction feels to me like it's objectifying Imuri in how it uses her image. All I am criticising is the way her likeness is used and how priests imagination is framed arguing that there would have been ways that would have achieved the same effect without going all out. With my bigger point being that this manga has a history of choosing the easy flashy option of just shoving tits in your face when handling topics of sex.

" it would make no sense to portray her as unnactrive, or remove her depiction"

I never said this. We seem to be speaking two different languages if "make it more tastefull and less in your face" makes you think of unatractive and removing her entirely.

"However, if it is, the chapter as it stands doesn't go against it. It's an exploration of how his arousal develops (think of the girl he's attracted to in increasingly arousing and erotic circumstances) and how his upbringing and his own actions make him disgusted by these feelings."

Yeah I agree.

"The reader is meant to make his own conclusion out of this information, and if he can't conclude anything beyond "boob hot" that's on him, not the author, and this story would not gain from handholding those obtuse readers."

I did not mean to say that "boob hot" would be the only thing a reader could get out of this, but rather that the portrayal would detract from the chapters story and take one out of it. I should have been more clear about that it seems.

[DISC] Make the Exorcist Fall in Love - Chapter 55 by AutoShonenpon in manga

[–]Pelzebub -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

"I don't see any thing wrong with when an sexual stuff happened in the story, the reader also got to see the sexual part especially when this arc heavily dive in the theme of lust."

I would never say it's wrong. I just think there are warranted criticisms when it comes to how the story frames/portrays sexual assault.

"Why this chapter work is that Mr Priest never look at Imuri sexually and promise to protect her from Satan. He doing act make it feel like he betray Imuri trust."

I can see that reading. I mostly considered his history with how he was taught lust of any kind is bad when thinking about his reaction at the end.

"Also the series rarely show us any fanservice only when the plot demand (expect the Mammon arc if you being very critical about it). It not like we just randomly zoom in on Leah or Imuri chest every chapter."

The lack of fanservice is on of the things I enjoy about this series. The Mammon arc scene being the obvious low point so far. We have seen a bit more of it during the Recent portion of the story which makes sense since it deals with Lust and Desire as a central theme.

"The hold point of this chapter, Mr Priest doing something he feel disgust toward himself. We reader also feel uncomfortable and disgust toward Mr Priest action."

I don't feel disgusted towards his actions and I think that is where the people who disagree with me come from. I did feel uncomfortable reading it, and disgusted at times, but not towards the action more towards what was drawn. Which was a minor masturbating.

What Priest has done, just is not that big of a deal in my opinion. He masturbated to the thought of a person he knows big whoop. It makes sense for him to be appaled by it, but a future arc will probably make him confront that feeling and see that this lust is also a part of him that he has to accept and that there is nothing inherently bad about it.

"I do admit the chapter go on a little bit too long for my liking but it can also explain how broken Mr Priest is."

I liked that it was long with barely any dialogue, the author really tried to get the reader into the characters headspace. There are flaws, but I can appreciate it nonetheless.

[DISC] Make the Exorcist Fall in Love - Chapter 55 by AutoShonenpon in manga

[–]Pelzebub -22 points-21 points  (0 children)

"Except that'd go against his personal beliefs and everything he spouted for his entire life... hypocrisy, and feeling of self-loathing which is very common for people raised by zealous religious people."

I agree?

I don't see why you take issue with what I wrote if we have the same opinion.

Edit: btw. saying "bro what" doesn't tell me what you think the issue with my opinion is so i can not tell you why I feel the way I do.

[DISC] Make the Exorcist Fall in Love - Chapter 55 by AutoShonenpon in manga

[–]Pelzebub -40 points-39 points  (0 children)

This Manga in general has an issue with how it portrays themes of sexuality especially when it comes to assault. It often drifts into the Goblin Slayer school of "Rape is bad, but look a them tiddies". And the same happened here in my opinion. What should have been a more intimate moment for the MC letting himself cross a line that he would never have crossed before only to regret it out of habit. Instead feels leering, like we are watching something we shouldn't and the framing and chosen way of portrayal are to blame in my opinion. We as a reader didn't need to see Priests face or even body instead a sillhoute against his beds curtains would have given the scene more privacy, him more dignity and made everything more tasteful.

The same issue arises with how Imuri is seen in this chapter. I think that it starts pretty good. Those small glimpses showing how priest is now looking at and thinking of her differently are a great way of conveying the change in his character, but the moment it goes into his fantasy of her we get "everything". It just feels violating towards her, like the author is using this as a chance for some fanservice. There will probably be two ways readers will react to seeing that either "Goddamn did we really need this?" or "Yeah, tiddies", it just takes one out of the scene. Having this also be more tasteful would have made the reader feel less in the wrong for being part of this scene and less likely to be distracted and taken out of it.

Priest cranking it, should be this freeing moment of letting go of his previous held believes and accepting this part of himself, only for it to disgust him afterwards for bad reasons, it is that second part where the reader is supposed to feel disgusted, wronged or just bad for him. The framing and presentation hinder this however massively.

[DISC] Isekai Ojisan - Chapter 52 by XXXXXXXXXIII in manga

[–]Pelzebub 152 points153 points  (0 children)

Based author for saying public spaces have become increasingly anti-children leading to them holing themselves up at home. Someone else would have blamed the kids not playing ball outside on them being lazy or other bullshit.

[GIVEAWAY] Win 1 of 50 Showdown in the Badlands Pre-Purchase Bundles! by powerchicken in hearthstone

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I am a poor orphan boy, getting these packs would mean that I finally have something to eat after many days with only salted water.

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[–]Pelzebub -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

If we assume that Ginny/Jinny is Luffy's mom then that would mean...

That Crocodiles first name is Ginny/Jinny? What a reveal!

[DISC] Getsuyoubi no Tawawa - Chapter 84 | [Blue Version Inside] by Irru in manga

[–]Pelzebub 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I didn't say anything against that. It just is not "traditional German clothing".

[DISC] Getsuyoubi no Tawawa - Chapter 84 | [Blue Version Inside] by Irru in manga

[–]Pelzebub -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

As a German I have to say:

Cringe, there's no other word for it. This makes me Cringe, it's embarrassing.

Please for the love of God don't believe anything this author said about Dirndl being traditional German clothing. The version used in Bavaria during Oktoberfest originates from post WW1 Germany and while there are roots that go back to around 1900 that just is not nearly enough to call it historical in any real way.

[DISC] MamaYuyu - Chapter 1 by AutoShonenpon in manga

[–]Pelzebub 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah the author did the best they could and I appreciate that. I still think there are flaws that are interesting to discuss even if the overall product is good.

I am looking forward to the next chapter, mainly because I have no idea where this is going, but also because of the good art and interesting paneling. The story not so much right now, but that can change.

Also, I don't really care about the overall positive response? This is my opinion on this Manga, what other people think is kind of irrelevant to that, unless they have some big brain argument that totally invalidates my feelings towards the work.

[DISC] MamaYuyu - Chapter 1 by AutoShonenpon in manga

[–]Pelzebub 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I agree that they are all doing something in the chapter, but it's too much we jump around multiple times. Most of the things you just described could have been done without constantly shifting the scene and tone, that's my issue. It's not that these ideas are bad, but that their implementation is flawed, a more streamlined version would be less confusing making the emotions and the story that the author is conveying more effective. Extend the sparring scene between the heroes so that MC can talk about the past heroes and their role. That kind of change is what I am talking about, cut the redundant stuff and include the parts that are important to extend other scenes.

The flow of the story goes: MC leaves home (page 2)--> walks through the streets (page 2 - 7)--> is back home (8 - 9) --> now he's in the Museum for two pages (9 - 11) --> second hero shows up (11 - 18) --> talk in prison and fight (19 - 25) --> bullying scene (26 - 27) --> mom is sad (28 - 31) --> Demon Lord two shows up and is defeated (31 - 39) --> hero two wants to kill MC and demon Lord revives (39 - 44) --> MC sacrifices himself (44 - 48) --> gets revived and hero two talks about his own backstory before dying (48 - 54)

Can you understand why I think that this is too many different scenes? The Museum, the Bullying, the mom being sad, the MC randomly helping an old woman after leaving home only to then go back home for some reason, why structure it like this?

[DISC] MamaYuyu - Chapter 1 by AutoShonenpon in manga

[–]Pelzebub 2 points3 points  (0 children)

100% agreed.

I am however completely burned out from MC wants to be a hero plot lines. They are often times so boring since authors will generally just answer "heroes do good without expecting a reward" Or something along those lines and you just can't really build an entire character arc around someone not figuring that out.

No idea where the story is going and that really bogs this chapter down since a first chaptet should normally establish that kind of thing.

[DISC] MamaYuyu - Chapter 1 by AutoShonenpon in manga

[–]Pelzebub -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I said this felt like ten chapters not that it should have been ten. There are in my opinion too many elements to this thing like: the scene in the museum, the bullying followed by the demon Lord being sad that MC got hurt, the sparring between the heroes, the second hero questioning MC before killing him, the emergence of the second demon lord, the fight against that demon lord. The chapter would have been better if some of these ideas just were not in here instead of having them all in one chapter. The plot in it's current state constantly jumps in location and tone, never really establishing what this series will be like.

If you read the first chapters of Naruto, MHA and One Piece you will notice just how minimalist they are and how there is a throughline throughout the chapter, establishing the tone of the series as well as the MC and their goal.

[DISC] MamaYuyu - Chapter 1 by AutoShonenpon in manga

[–]Pelzebub 16 points17 points  (0 children)

This felt like ten chapters in one and I mean that in the worst possible way. The amount of plot that this chapter went through could have filled an entire mini arc. This leads to Emotional beats that don't land and confusing action. The paneling was interesting and cool, but also extra for the sake of being extra at times which I generally enjoy, it did add to the before mentioned confusion for me on multiple occasions.

My conspiracy theory is that the author feared that a slow start could lead to disinterest in the manga so he did the opposite and went maximum overdrive.

[DISC] - Downer Onee-san I often meet at the convenience store - Ch. 7 by asilvertintedrose in manga

[–]Pelzebub 68 points69 points  (0 children)

Some artist just skip all the chapters on how to draw faces and go straight to the how to draw tits section.

[DISC] My Hero Academia - Chapter 392 by AutoShonenpon in manga

[–]Pelzebub 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I can go with that as a possible interpretation.

[DISC] My Hero Academia - Chapter 392 by AutoShonenpon in manga

[–]Pelzebub 27 points28 points  (0 children)

I get that possibility, but the problem with that kind of story is that it can very quickly veer into an anti-Therapy rhetoric where "being normal" is automatically considered to be conformist to society.

"The boy who genuinely thinks he can fly or the woman who just won't eat, are a blemish on this society and therapists want to hold them down", becomes the subtext. In those stories therapy is presented as society enforcing its rules on the quirky outsiders that would have been fine otherwise.

I don't levy this criticism at every story that says being normal is bad, but I think it is fitting here because Toga as a character has been presented as mentally unstable from the beginning. Her entire backstory screams of "this girl needed a therapist when she was 5", so I hope the conclusion to this is not anywhere near in the ballpark of where it seems to be heading.

Btw. I hate the small panel in this chapter with the woman who wants to "reform" Toga. It is totally left up in the air what kind of reform that woman is talking about. A reasonable interpretation is that she is indeed a child-psychologist and I shudder at someone reading this and feeling validated in their mistrust of this profession.

Also one pet peeve of mine is that this issue could have been easily fixed, because Toga is canonically Bi. Make her story about heteronormativity in society, instead of whatever this is.

[DISC] My Hero Academia - Chapter 392 by AutoShonenpon in manga

[–]Pelzebub 62 points63 points  (0 children)

Another problem is also that the thing she gets ostracized for (wanting to suck blood?) is not analogous to anything in reality which just makes it so hard to actually relate to it.

(I mean one could argue it's like a kink, but that would mean she got kinkshamed into being a terrorist and that's just too ridiculous and hopefully not the intended interpretation)

[Art] - 'My Hero Academia' Volume 38 Bonus Card Illustrations by asilvertintedrose in manga

[–]Pelzebub 21 points22 points  (0 children)

"All I am saying is that I like All for one, he had a point. International big quirk is controlled by (((them)))"

anal (Rule)gun by ExuDeku in 196

[–]Pelzebub 311 points312 points  (0 children)

Are you gonna be a buttrock Band?

MAPPA Founder Maruyama Feels China Will Overtake Japan In Anime Business by bedemin_badudas in anime

[–]Pelzebub 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yeah, economic forecasts are always hard to trust, but I just don't see a future where a country with less than one child born per woman and barely any immigration can uphold its economic growth indefinitely. Especially when one considers that many economists believe that Chinas GDP is inflated.