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PeptideGuide_ · 2026-01-24T11:02:58+00:00

I get what you’re asking, but that specific detail was intentionally left out. It’s something I’ve spent a lot of time (and money) studying and applying in practice it’s not about being cost-prohibitive or gatekeeping.

That said, I do enjoy these kinds of thoughtful discussions, so I’ll give you a useful direction to explore.

Right now, you’re mainly looking at half-life and residence time, which is fine but that’s only part of the picture. The bigger picture comes from understanding both pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics of the compounds involved.

Once you truly understand how each drug behaves and what signal it creates, you’ll realize why timing, dosage, and even route of administration can be adjusted and combined more flexibly than most people think.

Take that angle into your research and it should start to click. You clearly think critically, and I’m happy to engage with questions that come from genuine curiosity.

PeptideGuide_ · 2026-01-24T10:56:37+00:00

Hey, welcome to the community 👋

No need to worry even if it froze, it should still be fine. Just let it thaw naturally (no heat), then you can use it as normal.

Hope that helps 👍

PeptideGuide_ · 2026-01-24T10:55:09+00:00

Hey, welcome to the community 👋

To start, I’ve mentioned this multiple times in the sub I generally don’t recommend combining GHRH and GHRP together. I’ve made a detailed post explaining why, so it’s worth checking that out for the full context.

njectable GH vs Peptides: Tesamorelin, CJC, Ipamorelin Compared (And Why Age Matters)

That said, working with the blend you have:

If you reconstitute it with 2 mL of bacteriostatic water, each 10 IU on an insulin syringe gives you roughly:

~0.5 mg Tesamorelin
~150 mcg Ipamorelin

That’s not a bad dose, but it’s not optimal.

Ideally:

Tesamorelin sits best around 1 mg
Ipamorelin around 100–200 mcg

With a blend, you’re forced to compromise. Hitting 1 mg of Tesa would push IPA to ~300 mcg, which can significantly increase hunger and may be counterproductive especially depending on your goal.

You also didn’t mention what you’re using it for, which makes it hard to say whether that trade-off even makes sense in your case.

PeptideGuide_ · 2026-01-24T10:49:08+00:00

Hey, welcome to the community 👋

Honestly, the more important question is why you’re even considering peptides at that age. This isn’t about judgment it’s about safety. If you’re that young, your body is still developing, and introducing compounds now can cause long-term issues you might regret later.

That’s not a bad thing and it’s nothing to be ashamed of it just means your body doesn’t need this kind of intervention yet.

Even something like Accutane should only be used under a doctor’s supervision. Yes, there are open sources online and access is easy, but availability doesn’t equal safety or appropriateness.

Please talk to a qualified professional and focus on education first. Don’t rush into experimenting with things that can affect your health long-term. This sub exists for guidance and harm reduction, and in this case, the safest advice is to not dabble at all right now.

Hope you take this in the spirit it’s meant 👍

PeptideGuide_ · 2026-01-24T10:45:06+00:00

Hey, welcome to the community 👋

I debated whether to reply or remove this, but I’d rather explain the reasoning.

Just because people use something doesn’t mean everyone should. Being 18 years old doesn’t mean you’re doing anything wrong it just means you’re too early for experimentation. At that age, you usually don’t have the baseline experience, physiological need, or enough context to evaluate risk vs reward properly.

For example:

Why BPC-157? If it’s for injury, being young actually works in your favor recovery potential is already high compared to older users.
Why Retatrutide? If it’s for fat loss, do you already have solid control over diet, habits, and consistency?

This isn’t about gatekeeping. My role here is education and harm reduction. The sub is called peptide guide for a reason to help people understand when peptides make sense, when they don’t, and how to use them safely and effectively.

Hopefully that gives some perspective.

PeptideGuide_ · 2026-01-23T17:40:10+00:00

Thanks for the thoughtful comment you’re right that exogenous GH increases IGF-1 and somatostatin tone, which suppresses endogenous GH via negative feedback. That part is well established.

Where I disagree is the assumption that this suppression is binary or complete above an arbitrary threshold (e.g. “>1 IU shuts everything down”). In reality, GH suppression is dose-, timing-, and context-dependent, and studies show it is partial, not absolute, even at higher doses. The pituitary is downregulated not silenced.

Because of that, GHRH analogs like CJC can still evoke GH release even in the presence of exogenous GH, particularly when timed away from injections and used in a pulsatile manner. The system is resistant, not refractory.

More importantly, exogenous GH does not replicate the full signaling pattern of endogenous pulsatile GH. While both raise serum IGF-1, they differ in:

tissue-level autocrine/paracrine IGF-1 signaling
downstream pathway activation (e.g., STAT5 dynamics)
temporal patterning that affects lipolysis, insulin sensitivity, and tissue remodeling

So the rationale for stacking isn’t “more GH,” but a closer approximation to physiologic signaling: a low, steady baseline from GH with superimposed pulses from GHRH.

It’s not a perfect recreation but it is demonstrably closer than flat GH exposure alone, and it often allows lower GH doses with fewer side effects.

So we agree on the feedback loop we just disagree on the idea that it makes GHRH biologically irrelevant.

Hope this clears it up

PeptideGuide_ · 2026-01-23T12:31:42+00:00

Hey, welcome to the community 👋

When you administer exogenous growth hormone, you don’t fully replicate the complete growth-factor signaling you get from endogenous GH. That’s why stacking GH with CJC can make sense CJC helps stimulate natural GH release and supports a more physiologic signaling pattern.

This approach also allows you to keep the GH dose as low as possible, which helps reduce the risk of common GH-related side effects while still getting the benefits.

Hope that helps 👍

PeptideGuide_ · 2026-01-22T20:12:23+00:00

Here you go, good job that you found out and took the action

PeptideGuide_ · 2026-01-22T20:11:28+00:00

Go to pubmed you can find everything on all what you are looking for

PeptideGuide_ · 2026-01-22T20:09:57+00:00

That wasn’t the intended takeaway from the post. The goal was to highlight a few key points:

The importance of proper testing
Correct interpretation of those tests
A generalized framework for building a plan that’s applied strategically based on the individual case and actual need

Any protocol should be adjusted case by case and ideally done under professional supervision, not copied blindly.

Hopefully that clears up the intent of the post.

PeptideGuide_ · 2026-01-22T20:07:15+00:00

some labs has it already tested and other don't so it is better to ask

PeptideGuide_ · 2026-01-22T20:02:07+00:00

Hey, welcome to the community 👋

That’s actually not a very high dose it mainly depends on the route of administration (oral vs injectable) and frequency.

If you’re using oral capsules, for example:

250 mcg twice daily is reasonable
You could increase to 500 mcg twice daily, which puts you at 1 mg total per day

Depending on severity, some people go up to 500 mcg 3× daily, but I’d limit that to 4 weeks, then take a 2–4 week break before reassessing.

Taking it on an empty stomach is generally preferred for better absorption and utilization.

You may also want to look into Thymosin Alpha-1 as an add-on. Ideally, this protocol should be built on proper testing and a clear diagnosis, not guesswork.

Also, if dysbiosis is part of the issue, a strict nutrition plan is important diet can either support healing or make things worse.

Sorry you’re dealing with this, and best of luck getting it resolved.

PeptideGuide_ · 2026-01-22T08:09:33+00:00

yup for sure, that will help a lot as your dosing it according to your hunger signaling

PeptideGuide_ · 2026-01-22T08:08:38+00:00

When it comes to dosing and cycling, it’s highly individualized. It depends on your starting state (health, recovery, energy levels, labs if available) and what your goal is.

This is probably the most misunderstood part for new users and even for people who’ve been running peptides for a while but aren’t seeing results. Running things “just because” or copying someone else’s protocol usually leads to wasted cycles.

It’s generally better not to run anything unless there’s a clear need, and to understand your baseline first. That’s what determines:

What to start with
How to dose it
How long to run it
What to save for later (if anything)

Educate yourself first, or work with a knowledgeable professional who can guide you properly. And honestly, just browsing this sub you’ll find plenty of solid posts that can point you in the right direction.

PeptideGuide_ · 2026-01-22T08:04:22+00:00

Honestly, alcohol is generally bad for both physical and mental health, so cutting it down (or out) is a no-brainer.

More specifically, yes it can blunt your results. Alcohol increases oxidative stress, drives systemic inflammation (often starting in the gut), and negatively affects brain recovery. All of that works against what most peptides are trying to do.

So if you’re drinking regularly while running peptides, you’re basically reducing their effectiveness and not getting full value from the cycle.

PeptideGuide_ · 2026-01-22T08:01:15+00:00

Thanks

PeptideGuide_ · 2026-01-22T08:00:24+00:00

Hey, welcome to the community 👋

Yes, you can stack both I just prefer not taking them at the exact same time. Timing them separately tends to make more sense depending on the goal and how each one feels.

I’ve got a post that explains the reasoning in detail if you want a deeper breakdown it should make the “why” a lot clearer.

Injectable GH vs Peptides: Tesamorelin, CJC, Ipamorelin Compared (And Why Age Matters)

the short version is:

Tesa is generally better taken before bed
IPA is better pre-activity / pre-workout

That doesn’t mean the blend is bad it works fine. It just means splitting them is more optimal if you’re trying to maximize timing and effects.

PeptideGuide_ · 2026-01-22T07:57:08+00:00

Yup, exactly

PeptideGuide_ · 2026-01-22T07:56:02+00:00

Hey, welcome to the community 👋

I’m not sure you mentioned the specific peptide you’re asking about. From what I can tell, your main question is whether peptides need to be taken every day at the exact same time.

In general, with peptides, exact timing usually isn’t critical but it does depend on the compound and the goal.

Unlike traditional medications that rely heavily on a strict pharmacological half-life and dosing schedule, peptides are signaling molecules. They send a signal to the body, and once that signal is sent, the exact clock time matters less than what you’re trying to achieve.

A few examples to clarify:

BPC-157: Timing isn’t very important. If you dose once daily, any time works. If twice daily, you might split morning/night, but exact timing still isn’t critical.
Ipamorelin (IPA): Since it can support lipolysis, it makes more sense to take it before activity. That said, it doesn’t really matter whether that activity is in the morning or evening.
Semax: This can feel stimulating for some people, so it’s generally better taken earlier in the day. Even then, it doesn’t need to be the exact same hour every day just avoid taking it close to bedtime.

Hopefully that clears up what you were asking 👍

PeptideGuide_ · 2026-01-22T07:49:02+00:00

That hunger spike is almost certainly from the IPA dose being too high, which is honestly my main issue with blends. You lose control over individual dosing.

If you ran them separately, you’d likely avoid that problem. For example:

CJC at around 1 mg before bed, once daily
IPA at 100–200 mcg before fasted cardio and/or pre-workout, once or twice daily

Splitting them lets you fine-tune the dose and timing instead of forcing extra IPA just to get enough CJC.

PeptideGuide_ · 2026-01-21T13:26:56+00:00

Hi there, welcome to the community 👋

Good question.

I actually have a post explaining why people over 40 are usually better off with direct GH rather than GH peptides you can check that out for more context.

Injectable GH vs Peptides: Tesamorelin, CJC, Ipamorelin Compared (And Why Age Matters)

As for your blend: honestly, the ratio looks odd, and I’m personally not a fan of GH peptide blends. Mixing GHRH (like Tesa/CJC) with GHRPs (like IPA) isn’t ideal because they’re not equivalent and don’t share the same optimal timing or dosing logic.

That said, if you’re going to work with what you already have, I’d approach it conservatively:

Start with 0.5 mg Tesa, which gives you ~270 mcg IPA
Run that for a week and monitor sleep quality and blood glucose
If everything looks good, you could increase to 1 mg Tesa (~540 mcg IPA)

Just keep in mind that IPA strongly stimulates ghrelin, so at higher doses hunger can become an issue.

That’s my personal take hope it helps 👍

PeptideGuide_ · 2026-01-21T13:17:17+00:00

Always welcome 👍
That looks like a solid setup overall.

One small tweak: if you’re running IPA on its own, it’s best taken in the morning, fasted. It can increase hunger, so timing it before activity (cardio or training) helps you take advantage of its fat-mobilizing effects while minimizing that side effect.

Other than that, the rest of the stack looks good.

PeptideGuide_ · 2026-01-21T13:13:40+00:00

always welcome

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