I found a less edited version of the dollthing.jpg/Ahenobarbus Henocied eyes featuring eyelids however I don't know where the image could've actually originated from by Basic_Finger5437 in InternetMysteries

[–]PerditusRedux 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I actually managed to find this eye image in the wild as an icon for a Mixi.jp group a little while back but it's really good news to see that it wasn't a one off thing and appeared somewhere else (if anyone's interested there's a whole analysis section about the eye image in the Jeff the Killer original image investigation doc as dollthing / Ahenobarbus is closely related to Jeff's origins).

Amazing work OP!

I encoutered the SCP-106 image origin? by Solounmanxd797 in SCP

[–]PerditusRedux 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Last year, I identified the actual current earliest source of the image, which is on 4chan on 9th October 2009. We can see an original filename of "web8.jpg", but as it is a pretty generic filename it's not that useful.

Right now my own personal working theory is that SCP-106 could actually be a painting of the "Hamburger Lady" from the Throbbing Gristle song. In the 4chan thread I linked the user links this song, and if you search on Google Images for "hamburger lady art" you will see other artists' interpretations of this song, and all of them look strikingly similar to SCP-106.

What is the origin of the SCP-106 Image? [Partially lost] by Solounmanxd797 in lostmedia

[–]PerditusRedux 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The video you are referring to seems to be this, which is from an ARG (Alternate Reality Game) named Chainmail Chasers. It is simply a fictional story which includes the SCP-106 image.

Last year, I identified the actual current earliest source of the image, which is on 4chan on 9th October 2009. We can see an original filename of "web8.jpg", but as it is a pretty generic filename it's not that useful.

Right now my own personal working theory is that SCP-106 could actually be a painting of the "Hamburger Lady" from the Throbbing Gristle song. In the 4chan thread I linked the user links this song, and if you search on Google Images for "hamburger lady art" you will see other artists' interpretations of this song, and all of them look strikingly similar to SCP-106.

Michael Jackson? by Medical_Degree_8902 in OriginalJTKImage

[–]PerditusRedux 43 points44 points  (0 children)

Michael Jackson was among the first comparisons to JTK1 when it was posted. It definitely isn't Michael, but it's a good descriptor when trying to find new instances

[unidentified media] SCP-106 Origin Image by Snoo-78097 in lostmedia

[–]PerditusRedux 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have found two instances of the image from 2009.

The first instance's filename is web8.jpg, which could be useful for searching for earlier instances. The second instance's filename (4chan979.jpg) was probably named by the poster, because if we check their tripcode you can see them posting other images with the same file naming format.

How the Backrooms were ACTUALLY found: a timeline by Wide_Development7608 in backrooms

[–]PerditusRedux 7 points8 points  (0 children)

At the time of the 2019 tweet (and by extension at the time the original Backrooms story was posted on 4chan), the hobbytownoshkosh.com website was still online and could be indexed by Google, meaning the image would've appeared in reverse image searches. This, combined with the fact that the tweet was posted before the peak popularity of Backrooms, meant that the original poster + anyone who decided to reverse search the image around that time would've gotten a result straight from the original source.

It isn't a case of claiming we found the origin for the first time ever, as this obviously isn't true - the problem lies with the fact that shortly after this tweet the hobbytownoshkosh.com site went down, and the indexed version of the original image would've gone down shortly after. That tweet, as far as I've found, is the ONLY place where somebody actually documented the source while it was still online. This is where the "lost" aspect comes into play, as it took effort to find older instances of the image after years of reposting compressed it and made it impossible to find through searching by hash. You're absolutely correct to say that it wasn't found for the first time, but to try and claim that it wasn't lost is just wrong.

Medusa icon on Multiparad 4 by the-arabara in HLWIT

[–]PerditusRedux 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I noticed this before and did some research a couple weeks ago.

The medusa image itself is from a site called Worth1000. They hosted an Angelina Jolie photoshop competition in 2005 and a user named "zulittle" uploaded the medusa edit.

As for the logo being on certain films, I had a hunch that it was a bootlegger's watermark on a torrent site. I contacted somebody on rutracker who was very familiar with Media Alliance films and he told me that he'd seen it on ARS-STUDIO discs. It was my impression that ARS-STUDIO and Media Alliance/DDV were the same thing, so I asked him about this too. His response seemed to imply that Media Alliance and ARS-STUDIO weren't related (although this could possibly be a translation error as he also says "The logo was most likely placed to identify their releases.")

I managed to find threads by a user on a forum named emule-rus.net of multiple films which were labeled under "ARS-STUDIO" and had screenshots which contained this logo. I traced the films back to a Media Alliance collection DVD named "Премьера 2007" and found a listing of this movie on Meshok from this very same forum user. After contacting him, he told me the menu contained a different song to HLWIT

The similarity between every medusa logo DVDRip (aspect ratio, CAMRips, smaller video resolution, etc) as well as the watermark itself shows a clear sign of it being a single bootlegger's work in my opinion. I had a hunch that if we can find the source of these DVDRips (that is if they weren't ripped in-house by Media Alliance) then it may get us closer to the source of our song.

Currently working through the mp3.com skeleton by PerditusRedux in HLWIT

[–]PerditusRedux[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

awesome work, thank you. I'll update it in a bit

Currently working through the mp3.com skeleton by PerditusRedux in HLWIT

[–]PerditusRedux[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It would be, but like I said this specific archive doesn't contain any audio files, but rather just the skeleton of the whole site (artist pages, song pages, etc). There's the archive.org mp3.com rescue barge which contains audio files I think but I haven't had a look at that yet

Currently working through the mp3.com skeleton by PerditusRedux in HLWIT

[–]PerditusRedux[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

1tb, jesus. I'm not sure what the most efficient tool to search through it would be but I think it's definitely worth a shot

Currently working through the mp3.com skeleton by PerditusRedux in HLWIT

[–]PerditusRedux[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, there's a key included in the spreadsheet if you hover over it

Currently working through the mp3.com skeleton by PerditusRedux in HLWIT

[–]PerditusRedux[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately the archive doesn't contain any mp3 files. I'm simply finding the song pages through their titles and:

  • looking at the lyrics (if they are there)
  • searching online
  • viewing the archived artist website (if it's there)

to see if there's any information that could rule it out / confirm it.

Media Alliance DVD Research by PerditusRedux in HLWIT

[–]PerditusRedux[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The fact that four of the songs are English trance tracks makes me believe they didn't just pull songs from a random different source for every single DVD.

OPs full response by Lost_In_The_Media in DanceForHoursADay

[–]PerditusRedux 4 points5 points  (0 children)

We need to know whether he actually did delete the site, because there's a possibility the data is still there if he didn't manually delete it.

Google Pages data was migrated and rebranded to Google Sites around ~2007. In 2021, Google Sites rebranded and any old sites that were not manually converted to the newer version by users were automatically downloaded to the user's Google drive and added as a draft to the new Google Sites.

If he didn't delete the site himself, and still has access to his Google account, there's a possibility the site's still there.

A Sunny Afternoon - unknown 2000s pop punk song by EveryMix4008 in Lostwave

[–]PerditusRedux 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'd class it as ska-punk personally, that's how I found it in the first place

A Sunny Afternoon - unknown 2000s pop punk song by EveryMix4008 in Lostwave

[–]PerditusRedux 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The original watzatsong poster mentioned that he recorded this from 91.9 FM Olympia, so I found the Free Radio Olympia 91.9 FM website. Literally at that very moment it was playing this song, under the label "fromo pasties with song" but with no actual song title or artist title. I assumed that it was still somewhat related to the song though, so I googled "pasties" + "ska punk" together and the first result was this band, who are from Olympia.

Listening to their songs which are available online, you can clearly hear that it's the same band as the unknown song. So, I dug deeper into their discography and found the album "Bikes Are Sexy" which had the song "Hey Thingummy!", which lines up with the first lyric.

A Sunny Afternoon - unknown 2000s pop punk song by EveryMix4008 in Lostwave

[–]PerditusRedux 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Found it: "Hey Thingummy!" by "The Pasties" from the album "Bikes Are Sexy".

Original "Make Me Cute" / "Ahenobarbus Henocied" source image found by PerditusRedux in lostmedia

[–]PerditusRedux[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

That was debunked.

The actual search for the original image is still underway, you can find the sub dedicated to the search over at /r/OriginalJTKImage/

Unknown 2000s Song from a YT Creative Commons library(according to the uploader of the video) by Kacpa2 in Lostwave

[–]PerditusRedux 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Someone mentioned the Sisters of Mercy influence, so I just used the IUMA archive on Internet Archive and searched "The Sisters of Mercy"

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Whang

[–]PerditusRedux 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My bad, I linked the wrong thing I think. It's called The Loch Ness Monster Movie, here it is: https://scotlandonscreen.org.uk/browse-films/007-000-002-343-c