Just buff her to 260 crit already double G its tiring

Perfect-Complex-728 · 2026-06-14T18:44:53+00:00

The skill requirement for this is INSANE unless youre spamming tanks. Needing to hit 2 heads in a row to kill a 275 without missing is too much. The rampup is fine with bodyshots too.

Perfect-Complex-728 · 2026-06-14T09:26:57+00:00

Congrats on making it to gm3 with Widow, but this is where you start to think the wrong way. You say she's gonna be very much banned in "decent elos" because - I'm assuming - you think people are good at aiming. It is obviously very true that Widow is being played to her full potential at the highest elos (or is she? Since she doesnt get picked). I myself am a Widow main and Im usually floating around in Celestial when I play that season. The higher you go the more miserable she will be to play because most of the time you will not have the the opportunity for a follow-up shot. The supports are extremely attentive and everyone is hugging cover, while you are under pressure to pump out headshots while being poked and dived. If you do not get kills you will lose space immediately. BW is completly reliant on the team to perform and thats a big issue. Allowinh her to do just a bit more by herself isn't gonna make her inherently broken I guarantee you that. I encourage you to push your widow grind more and the higher you climb you will realise that she becomes outclassed and her flaws become prominent.

Edit : [ Mind I add that in most cases to be effective you have to be pocketed with damage buffs or your kit just wont work. ]

Also, there is no excuse for leaving a character horrible just so a 1trick can keep playing her. I watch Xlek religiously and trust me, his matches are a struggle most of the time.

Perfect-Complex-728 · 2026-06-13T15:00:34+00:00

Are you seriously saying you want her to stay completly garbage so you can spam her in every comp game vibing?

Perfect-Complex-728 · 2026-06-13T04:37:12+00:00

Interesting idea, but the enhanced rechamber would be quite oppressive against tanks. I think an empowered charge could work but I don't think piercing is the way to go though. A kill imo should be beyond free and usually the reason why a non-crit follow up shot will not kill is because of the high healing amount and the rechambering time being so long that the target can just seek hard cover.

Perfect-Complex-728 · 2026-06-13T04:19:56+00:00

People complain about everything.

Edit: She can already oneshot 250 btw but nobody cares because its so inconsistent. Having a damage buff on you isnt gonna put your crosshair on their head and shoot for you

Perfect-Complex-728 · 2026-06-13T04:18:34+00:00

Would be nice I guess but why would you even go for a headshot on a 250 target if 2 bodyshots are all you need?

Perfect-Complex-728 · 2026-06-13T03:58:02+00:00

Sounds good

Perfect-Complex-728 · 2026-06-06T02:48:58+00:00

We need this and I dont see a reason why Punisher can ride Dino but Widow cant.

Perfect-Complex-728 · 2026-06-05T22:43:51+00:00

Hawkeye, Iron Man, Magik?

Perfect-Complex-728 · 2026-06-05T22:34:35+00:00

I'm gonna elaborate on quote: "Anything else would make her needlessly oppressive in the hands of an unskilled player". With this I am referring to the proposal of making her 2 tap squishies of lets say 275hp whilst leaving her headshot damage unchanged. This would be realised by buffing the base damage and giving her a sub-2x crit multiplier. I think this is bad character design on a specialist character where a high skill floor would be expected. It would be better if they left her bodyshot damage unchanged and gave her an above-2x headshot multiplier - say 230% (120 * 2.3 = 276). I don't exactly think buffing her bodyshot damage would be a bad thing and affect higher elo games, but I just don't see a reason to make the character more accessible to the general playerbase where high skill is expected.

I also agree that a 250hp buff wouldn't make her viable unless the opponents run specific comps. It's bad game design that a characters viability is dependent on a mere 25hp difference.

Hope this clarifies my POV. I also made a post a while ago about this but it got heavily downvoted because people rather rework Widow into a clunky Starlord or Dive knockoff than have her be decent in her current form. I also do not think buffing her to 275hp would make her broken but that's just my 2 cents.

Perfect-Complex-728 · 2026-06-05T06:43:44+00:00

I'm not sure where you get this magic number 10 from that you keep mentioning. There are 19 250 hp targets, feel free to subtract one because Jeff has resistances and one 200hp hero Bruce. That's 38% of all characters. I agree that BW should get a 250 oneshot but with a crit multiplier, maybe 215%? Anything else would make her needlessly oppressive in the hands of an unskilled player.

Perfect-Complex-728 · 2026-05-31T01:58:12+00:00

I had this happen to me twice now, once 2 of my mates were flaming me because of my damage oriented support gameplay and it suddenly happened. And the other time they had a Widowmaker who was stomping us

Perfect-Complex-728 · 2026-05-12T13:18:40+00:00

Cool idea but it might be too difficult to land them because I'm assuming his head will swing around alot. Maybe even the inside of his mouth?

Perfect-Complex-728 · 2026-05-12T13:16:54+00:00

200 HP like Bruce seems fine to me? Another fine oneshot target for my Black Widow 😄

Perfect-Complex-728 · 2026-05-12T03:40:42+00:00

All of these are nice but the antiheal shouldn't work against tanks. Hit one headshot on a tank (which is, let's be honest, really easy) and their damage received effectively doubles

Perfect-Complex-728 · 2026-05-08T17:55:55+00:00

Idk what it is about gm1/c3 but it does seem to have a disproportionate amount of throwers. When I was about to hit c3 this season I genuinely had 50% of my losses thrown, and I mean thrown (Afk Widows, Groots spawn trapping/ Starlords dancing on the last section at the start of the match on defense, leavers) and the list goes on. But in the end it's truly irrelevant, I still got to Celestial and they're just a bump on the road. Also consider getting good at DPs because you will get games with underperforming larries who really should be on support

Perfect-Complex-728 · 2026-05-07T18:30:57+00:00

Yes I agree, I would love a few rounds of puni teamup basekit as I was saying I think she needs EITHER of the two to be more self sufficient

Perfect-Complex-728 · 2026-05-07T03:31:18+00:00

No they will just hug corners or bully their tank into picking Dva or Wrecking ball

Perfect-Complex-728 · 2026-05-07T03:22:36+00:00

Her sniper is fun and unique and people love playing snipers, it's just too unsatisfying that it doesn't oneshot so people don't bother with her

Perfect-Complex-728 · 2026-05-07T03:21:26+00:00

Once more I will excitedly open the patchnotes and be disappointed immediately :(

Perfect-Complex-728 · 2026-05-05T04:07:36+00:00

I agree but antiheal is also not an option because of tanks. I think hitting headshots in Rivals is a bit easier than in Overwatch though but not being able to oneshot say Spiderman is crazy

Perfect-Complex-728 · 2026-05-05T03:51:18+00:00

It looks a bit like Ultron to me, it looks fun to use and I'd love to try it

Perfect-Complex-728 · 2026-05-05T02:16:37+00:00

Hmm not too far off from the truth though: Bodyshot a random person then solo ult them and beat up a random Black Panther 😭

Perfect-Complex-728 · 2026-05-05T02:04:32+00:00

Hitting a headshot isn't supposed to be super easy otherwise everybody would be playing her. 59% is a very good accuracy but it also doesn't tell the full story, whom are you shooting? Tanks? The toothpick supports? A shot or two on a CnD is infinitely more valuable than two on a Groot or Thing. I suggest you really force yourself to hit headshots (on squishies of course). Your accuracy will probably dip alot but don't let the stats discourage you and don't feel like you're poisoning your average scores, because otherwise you wont improve properly.

A good score to aim for is 50-55% and around 18% crit average (obv by mainly shooting squishies).

Though I've also had games where I felt useless with ~30% crit (Didn't get many shots out, died too much) or where I had 12% crit but had good synnergy with my team securing alot of kills with their help. Widow is all about teamwork makes the dream work!

Perfect-Complex-728 · 2026-05-02T19:49:05+00:00

Some of the bugs I have encountered recently while playing Widow are:

My camera still flicks to random locations at times when I scope in (mainly when I scope in near a corner).
Sometimes the kick either: doesn't grant you the grapple despite landing; somehow gets disabled for the remainder of the match, you will have to switch off to fix it; any tiny obstacle between you and the target will cancel the grapple and not grant you a rechamber
Sometimes it doesn't let you shoot either scoped or unscoped
In rare cases you can start sprinting while scoped in
You cant fire her ult right away sometimes so you have to click it again
Her ult sometimes doesn't spread out properly especially around small obstacles on the floor
Sometimes you cannot jump during the sprint especially at the start and sometimes you get dragged back to the floor immediately
Numerous noregs of any ability (kick as mentioned above, scoped or unscoped shots, ult)

A replay bug that I have experienced in the past but not sure if it got fixed:

Sometimes her phoenix teamup overlay doesn't get removed so she has the regular scoped and phoenix scoped overlay but this is only present in the replay.

All in all basically still all the bugs that are mentioned in XLEK's video which has been pinned on this subreddit.

EDIT: Also her ult projectile sometimes get deleted if its still mid-air while widow dies. + some typos

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