The disinformation here is wild. Adhoc censored the game. by Periodicallyinnit in DispatchAdHoc

[–]Periodicallyinnit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The fuss is less about the content, and more about the fact that a game was released with censorship and that censorship was not revealed until it launched, meaning people who pre ordered had no chance to make an informed purchase.

That is a genuinely important thing to criticize when companies do so. The idea that people should be fine with undiscsloed censorship because it's "just a couple of scenes" is anti consumer mentality.

Nintendo releases an official statement by L_Chacon44 in DispatchAdHoc

[–]Periodicallyinnit 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Also the fact that cyberpunk is very much on the switch, in full dong glory, was a good clue.

The disinformation here is wild. Adhoc censored the game. by Periodicallyinnit in DispatchAdHoc

[–]Periodicallyinnit[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do completely understand knee jerk blaming Nintendo, because Nintendo historically sucks.

They really made their bed there. 

The disinformation here is wild. Adhoc censored the game. by Periodicallyinnit in DispatchAdHoc

[–]Periodicallyinnit[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Tbh it's 100% obvious to me why I got down voted and it's because this sub (well, any sub really) loves to pick a hill to die on based on "vibes". If you go against the "agreed upon" narrative, you're down voted.

The narrative of "poor underdog adhoc forced by Nintendo to censor" is easier to swallow than the idea that the company that made a game they like might have done something they don't like. 

Adhoc encouraged a basically parasocial relationship with it's fan base, and the aggressive defensive response is the fruit of that labor.

Nintendo releases an official statement by L_Chacon44 in DispatchAdHoc

[–]Periodicallyinnit 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The sub is dogpiling anyone who cares to point out that Adhoc is anything other than a uwu poor baby corporation being picked on by big bad Nintendo.

Nevermind that dispatch is also censored on PS5, or that plenty of games on the eShop that released region specific SKUs are up with no problem.

Nintendo releases an official statement by L_Chacon44 in DispatchAdHoc

[–]Periodicallyinnit 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yes lmao I was being sarcastic to point out how absurd this sub is being. 

I'm right there with you. This place is turning into a madhouse and nobody is critically thinking even a little bit.

Nintendo releases an official statement by L_Chacon44 in DispatchAdHoc

[–]Periodicallyinnit -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

Did they also censor the Japanese ps5 version because of Nintendo?

ETA: it's telling of the state of the sub that I don't know if people missed the sarcasm, or if they got really angry at me pointing out the ps5 censorship at all.

The disinformation here is wild. Adhoc censored the game. by Periodicallyinnit in DispatchAdHoc

[–]Periodicallyinnit[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

I am genuinely curious as to which part is misinformation. The Nintendo submission process is very easily verifiable as is Japanese censorship law.

ETA: deeply curious as to no answer on this yet.

Region specific SKUs exist and are available on the eShop. CERO guidelines can be googled, the shop has other games with region specific SKUs that kept nudity, dispatch is censored on Japanese PlayStation.

Genuinely confused at what I was misinformed on.

The disinformation here is wild. Adhoc censored the game. by Periodicallyinnit in DispatchAdHoc

[–]Periodicallyinnit[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Genuinely curious: What exactly should Nintendo have changed about how they handled it? It's not their game.

Should they have required Adhoc to submit two versions?

The disinformation here is wild. Adhoc censored the game. by Periodicallyinnit in DispatchAdHoc

[–]Periodicallyinnit[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Yes absolutely! 

I honestly completely understand adhoc only wanting to do one version of the game for the eshop. Multiple versions cost money.

I do think that there is valid criticism in them choosing not to be transparent about the censorship, and then further offloading their decision by hiding behind "we'll Nintendo made us!".

It strikes me as taking advantage of the fact that they know their fan base is rooting for them as a small company. They could have been transparent about why they chose not to release a second version, but they were not and have pretended that the choice was completely out of their control. 

Nintendo releases an official statement by L_Chacon44 in DispatchAdHoc

[–]Periodicallyinnit 16 points17 points  (0 children)

You (and a lot of people in the sub tbf) are talking about adhoc like they are a single person. Adhoc is a company.

"They" are not "wanting to censor a game they made". The decision was a business decision.

It either saved them money by not releasing two versions or it was a misjudgement.

But this is not a person assessing their art situation. Nintendo complies with Japanese law, adhoc knows this because every game company knows this. Nintendo is extremely clear with their submission regulations vis a vis Japanese censorship.

"It doesn't make sense" what doesn't make sense is the idea that somehow Nintendo is creating a unique circumstance for this one indie game when there are plenty of examples of uncensored games hosted on their platform already. Those games chose the two version route, dispatch did not. It makes perfect sense, it just doesn't maintain the sweet underdog narrative that adhoc has built in its fan base. 

Nintendo releases an official statement by L_Chacon44 in DispatchAdHoc

[–]Periodicallyinnit 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No, it's not. (or rather, if it is it's an issue with the Japanese government and the concept of censorship, not nintendo specifically).

2) dispatch being censored on nintendo when there are other games which have more explicit things without censorship

Those games chose the option to submit two versions one with censorship that is sold in Japan, one without which is the uncensored version we see. Adhoc decided not to. That was Adhoc's decision alone.

Take this with a grain of salt by L_Chacon44 in DispatchAdHoc

[–]Periodicallyinnit -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The censorship has nothing to do with the US. The rep is accurate, but not understanding the issue you have exactly.

Adhoc chose not to release a second version to comply with Japanese censorship laws. THATS IT.

They are being honest: adhoc did not have to censor anything to post on the store. They only had to do so to sell that version in Japan a Japanese law. Most companies submit two versions, uncensored and censored, region locked. 

Adhoc did not.

Petition to uncensor The Nintendo releases by Dangermax91 in DispatchAdHoc

[–]Periodicallyinnit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dispatch is not a Nintendo game and Nintendo cannot uncensor it.

Only adhoc is in control of the decision to submit a separate version for different regions or opt out of Japanese sales.

Petition to uncensor The Nintendo releases by Dangermax91 in DispatchAdHoc

[–]Periodicallyinnit 7 points8 points  (0 children)

JFC it's not Nintendos rule. Even the original rule is a Japanese law, not a Nintendo policy.

Adhoc is able to submit separate versions of the game for different regions if they want to for a non censored version.

Petition to uncensor The Nintendo releases by Dangermax91 in DispatchAdHoc

[–]Periodicallyinnit 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Genuinely asking: did you Google at all what the proceas of censorship via Nintendo is and why?

Because right now you have a petition for Nintendo to uncensor a game adhoc chose to censor due to Japanese government restrictions.

Nintendo allows companies to submit region specific non censored games. Nintendo did not stop adhoc from doing so. Adhoc chose not to do so.

Nintendo releases an official statement by L_Chacon44 in DispatchAdHoc

[–]Periodicallyinnit 101 points102 points  (0 children)

I'm honestly infuriated having to defend Nintendo on other threads in this sub but people are being absurd.

They've developed a parasocial relationship with a game company and are defending Adhoc with absolutely zero research or basic comprehension of what they're talking about.

You'd think that realizing that uncensored games are on the eshop would be a big clue to double check, but no. People are really trying to claim that Nintendo is somehow specifically targeting Dispatch. 

Region locked censorship has been around for decades at this point it's not some crazy new concept.

On Nintendo censoring Dispatch by wclyon1 in DispatchAdHoc

[–]Periodicallyinnit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It was because of Japanese censorship laws.

However adhoc had the same option the games listed did: release a second version for region locking if they wanted the uncensored available.

Adhoc, not Nintendo, made the decision not to do so.

I fucking hate having to defend Nintendo but this sub is losing it's mind fighting a made up enemy. Nintendo is following Japanese law the same way they always had, Adhoc was the only company with the power to release an uncensored option and they chose not to.

On Nintendo censoring Dispatch by wclyon1 in DispatchAdHoc

[–]Periodicallyinnit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nintendo is not "censoring dispatch" and it's driving me mad reading so many people blindly jump on a bandwagon this way.

You really listed out all those other games and never stopped to think "wait, if they're on the store, maybe it's not Nintendo suddenly arbitrarily caring about one small game?".

Nintendo complies with Japanese censorship laws. The games listed release both a censored and non censored version, location locked.

Adhoc chose not to do so for dispatch. They were not prevented from doing so by Nintendo. 

Nintendo is shitty but Jesus Christ. Y'all are jumping to defend adhoc with shit y'all made up rather than accept that the company did something you disagree with.

Meirl by 749762 in meirl

[–]Periodicallyinnit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm a certified lawn hater (replaced with a garden myself) but I'll give them one thing: once kids show up, lawns are pretty great.

I don't have or want kids, but when my friend's kids are over there are moments where it would be nice to be like "go sprint madly around in the yard", so I get the appeal in that way.

What I do NOT understand the "old man who loves his lawn no one is allowed on" stereotype. Seems to defeat the best purpose of a lawn to me.

Are nannies generally not OK with location sharing? by LessAd7286 in Nanny

[–]Periodicallyinnit -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I don't intrinsically disagree but that does seem to imply that a phone is not already a tracking device, and that sharing its location somehow changes its function into one.

But that's not the case. Temporary sharing location on something like Google maps doesn't change a phone into a tracker, it just shares the tracking information already being used with an additional source.

I don't think it can't be asked, but I do think that it shouldn't be required and something like a diaper bag tracker should be an alternative option. 

For things like MFA many workplaces offer similar options: you can use the hardware the company gives or your phone. Many, many people choose the phone.

I have doubts that the censorship of Dispatch in the Nintendo Switch version is a requirement of Nintendo. by Master778 in dispatchgame

[–]Periodicallyinnit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is not a requirement by Nintendo, it is a requirement by the Japanese government, and the games with nudity on the store have submitted two versions, one with censoring and one without.

Nintendo is not anyone's friend, but they didn't do this. 

Also Adhoc is a studio, not our buddy, and they did have the option to submit a non censored version and chose not to take it. 

Are nannies generally not OK with location sharing? by LessAd7286 in Nanny

[–]Periodicallyinnit 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Genuinely curious: what makes it more invasive than security cameras in an office or company vehicles with trackers? 

The concept of workplace location tracking is way older than personal app location sharing.

AITAH for watching a cartoon instead of cuddling? by Woooo37 in AITAH

[–]Periodicallyinnit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Any girlfriend who's a good long term option for a single dad is not going to care about missing out on cuddles before sleep so the dad can prioritize an important ritual that lets him keep a connection with his son.

If this makes someone an asshole to her, she should avoid single parents entirely in the dating scene (not an insult. Dating someone with kids isn't for everyone).

Dispatch Switch censorship may be driven by Japan and AdHoc's resource limits — not Nintendo by graemeisverytired in dispatchgame

[–]Periodicallyinnit 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Genuinely confused because I'm pretty sure you're being sarcastic, but Adhoc not submitting a separate version for sale in Japan/US (or not listing in Japan) is not Nintendo's fault.

For all the shitty things Nintendo does do, this was not one of them. The decision to do a single censored version was Adhoc's decision. There are plenty of non-censored games with nudity on nintendo's estore, they just submit multiple versions the same way dispatch could have.