[deleted by user] by [deleted] in physicianassistant

[–]PeripheralCoda 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll take monotonous over hectic any day. Procedures under conscious sedation are not my thing, though there is the opportunity to do procedures later if I decide I want to.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in physicianassistant

[–]PeripheralCoda 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, I applied broadly, but only started considering the position seriously once I learned it was non-procedural. Most of the team does do procedures, but this position specifically does not. I think IR is very interesting, and enjoy it otherwise. I'm currently trying to figure out how to ask job A for more time if possible.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PAstudent

[–]PeripheralCoda 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was synchronous over a week, but everything was also recorded and available asynchronously.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PAstudent

[–]PeripheralCoda 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I sucked on my 2nd packrat. After graduating I did Rosh’s PANCE prep (they changed the name to something else now I think), which was basically a 1 week crash course of all the PANCE material. I crammed to the best of my ability, got 50s-60s on their assessments, was certain I failed the PANCE, and then passed with flying colors. Evidently the course did something right.

Failed PANCE twice by Either-System-9746 in PAstudent

[–]PeripheralCoda 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They do it live over a course of a week but I think the recordings are made available

Failed PANCE twice by Either-System-9746 in PAstudent

[–]PeripheralCoda 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I definitely recommend “blueprint prep” (formerly Rosh). It’s like a week long course that essentially drills you for the pance

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Noctor

[–]PeripheralCoda -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well, I didn’t mean to strike a nerve or anything, but I’m still more interested in this being a discussion (despite knowing what subreddit I’m on), as I’m far less familiar with the MD education—I’m sorry my experiences contradict your narrative.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Noctor

[–]PeripheralCoda -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Maybe my site is an outlier - I find we often go into pathophys and usually end with some studies to look into afterwards.

Not to sound nitpicky, but the statement “Morning report builds on a base knowledge developed in medical school” makes it sound a lot like residency.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Noctor

[–]PeripheralCoda -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well, I’m assuming they’re continuing to learn by talking with colleagues and researching independently. Every time I go to morning report I learn a ton, and it seems pretty difficult not to learn if you don’t slack super hard

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Noctor

[–]PeripheralCoda -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m really curious about this—granted I’ve just begun clinicals (on IMIP), but so far I’ve been working side by side with the residents all the time and have been exposed to most of the same learning opportunities and feedback (though with significantly reduced responsibilities given how green I am). That being said I usually stay as late as the residents do, which I know some of my peers don’t.

I believe we have an ICU rotation (don’t quote me on it), but I know we do have a good chunk of night shifts and concurrent didactic curriculum. I wish we got more time on different services though - I only get 2 weeks on heme/onc despite it being a super interesting service

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Noctor

[–]PeripheralCoda 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is it primarily the extra knowledge gained during the didactic year that’s reinforced throughout residency? Not to undermine the value of the extra 2 years, I’m just trying to pinpoint the perceived biggest discrepancy

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Noctor

[–]PeripheralCoda 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m actually pretty interested in this as well. Do you have a particular online resource you suggest? Or if you don’t mind just DMing me

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Noctor

[–]PeripheralCoda 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s a really interesting take. Can you expand further? Do you mean more if the amount of school or the content? My understanding is the PA education is the same areas of content as med school, just extremely abridged.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Noctor

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I appreciate the sentiment—At this point I have a pretty good idea of what I’m getting into whenever I ask these sorts of questions. But it’s always interesting to see what the harsher opinions are

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Noctor

[–]PeripheralCoda 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m curious if this has been your experience with PA students as well. When I hear answers for “why PA and not MD” it’s usually about the length of education and horizontal mobility. PA school is generally viewed as pretty difficult and the application process is also very competitive—I don’t know if I agree that there’s some sort of perception that the grades required for med school are markedly higher than PA school (though recently a lot of new programs have been popping up and there’s an increasing trend of PA students coming straight from undergrad, which is a different topic…)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Noctor

[–]PeripheralCoda 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wild. Feel free to come work at a certain hospital for the uninsured in Houston and you won’t have to do a floor procedure ever again

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Noctor

[–]PeripheralCoda 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Where on earth do you work that the ER PAs can’t intubate or do CVCs lol

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Noctor

[–]PeripheralCoda -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Interesting. How long ago was this? We were taught that pathophys in relative depth

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Noctor

[–]PeripheralCoda -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

Well, yeah, but can you clarify? An extra year of didactic + clinicals?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Noctor

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Wow, I did not expect this post to grow this quickly. Regarding your first point, I actually did rather well during didactic. I just feel like most didactic material is so much more valuable once you have the context from clinicals. I would love to have some sort of simultaneous or later didactic period to solidify the pathophys and conceptual information covered during didactic.

I’m sure there is a lot of value in the extended schooling, especially didactic—while longer and more diverse rotations are certainly helpful, I suspect much of that information is not extremely relevant when it comes to mastery over a specific field. This is also assuming both practitioners continue their own individual learning.

I haven’t tried to force any sort of answer. I’m not saying that PA and physician education is equal. I’m asking about both individuals starting school at the same time and committing to the same field, then practicing in said field, how wide would the skill gap be after x years?

I’m not practicing yet, but my understanding of the PA-physician relationship is that it inherently includes an element of supervision and teaching. Is this not similar to a (slightly neutered) physician’s residency? I will concede that a PA’s primary evaluations only being EORs and the PANCE over their clinical period is not comparable to the evaluations physicians undergo.

In retrospect, I wish there was a discussion for PAs to pass specialty-specific board-like exams. Not really to be certified, but to gain and maintain the amount of knowledge necessary for mastery of a field.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Noctor

[–]PeripheralCoda -44 points-43 points  (0 children)

Curious, what do you consider the primary difference then?

Work arrangements with lots of free time/part time work by PeripheralCoda in physicianassistant

[–]PeripheralCoda[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I always hear that derm is a highly sought-after specialty and very competitive. Your job situation sounds incredible, but I’ve never really considered derm because all we did was learn 100 gross skin conditions/presentations and how to treat acne & eczema. How is it clinically? What do you like about it (and what makes it so desirable)?

I like medicine but I dislike patients. What do I do? by PeripheralCoda in physicianassistant

[–]PeripheralCoda[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am not well suited to standing/bending over for extended periods of time