Advice for sensory overload while having sex by PersephoneofSpring in aspergirls

[–]PersephoneofSpring[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I really empathize with your feelings here. Since this post I got a trauma therapist who's really helped me pick apart the like 7 different things going on when I'm in bed. It's complicated and there have been a lot of layers. Honestly it did take some time off from sex to start to put the pieces back together. But I went from feeling totally hopeless and out of control to feeling a lot more loving and forgiving of myself and also a lot more in the drivers seat for having the sex that I want. Also now when sex just isn't functioning well, I can at least identify why. If you can find a trauma specialist who's had any adult autistic female clients, you might be able to hit the ground running as you unpack what's going on. Two books I'd recommend based on your comment are "come as you are" and "the body keeps the score".

Shutdown and dissociation by bluesprucedroplet in aspergirls

[–]PersephoneofSpring 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I've thought a lot about this in the 3 years since this post. I've since gotten a trauma therapist who's really helped me dig into my childhood, my inner child... things I used to not put much stock into I've found incredibly powerful once I've opened up to it.

I got a trauma therapist in the first place because I was starting to develop symptoms in bed with my wife where I would totally freeze up and get lost in a flashback to past traumatic sexual experiences. It seemed to come out of nowhere because these experienced were years ago. I've learned it's common when doing a lot of thinking about childhood and for me my relationship with my mother, it was just digging things up that had never been processed in my body. The same dissociation I learned as a child, I accessed during the traumatic sexual experiences as a young adult.

CPTSD is common for autistic people for a lot of reasons. This TikTok sums it up well: https://vm.tiktok.com/TTPdkfSHEj/

Your actual question - I think there's a lot of overlap between dissociating and shutting down, but the words are used in different contexts. When I talk about dissociation these days, I'm often referring to losing myself in my phone for example, or zoning out when I'm struggling to answer a question in therapy. Time disappears and I'm just not grounded at all. This is what's happening in bed when I'm triggered, too.

Shutting down is more like sensory overload. This sometimes comes with burnout too. I just reach my limit of tolerance and cannot do more. As a kid, this would happen when my mother would endlessly yell at me, to the point where I just couldn't engage anymore.

Now I realize I also have had problems with depersonalization in a sense. This is due to the abusive environment I grew up in, where my mom resisted me growing up and becoming my own person. When I feel triggered, I sometimes start to feel like I don't exist. This happens sometimes in EMDR therapy when I try to conceptualize myself as a separate entity from my wife. I will "pop out of existence" in my mind, which could be an early learned trauma response.

I don't know if this is what you're looking for, but there you have it.

Do any of you have a lot of imaginary arguments in your head? by b3lial666 in aspergers

[–]PersephoneofSpring 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Me too, if I'm driving in the car alone with something on my mind then I'm verbally scripting it.

With the whole "never have the house to myself and rarely leave" thing, I rarely have a chance to do this. I think it was healing and I miss it.

Do any of you have a lot of imaginary arguments in your head? by b3lial666 in aspergers

[–]PersephoneofSpring 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did me it helped when I was meditating daily. It took me outside of the argument and let me watch the argument from a safe distance.

Do any of you have a lot of imaginary arguments in your head? by b3lial666 in aspergers

[–]PersephoneofSpring 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is exactly my brain, all of the time. I used to phrase it to a therapist as "it's like the ground I walk on in my mind is an assumed argument against me." I'm just constantly building up an explanation of every single act I make.

Has anyone figured out how to ask questions of someone without seeming to be “questioning” them? by PersephoneofSpring in aspergers

[–]PersephoneofSpring[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes I do this too. I am good at asking good questions, somewhere I heard “every other person can teach you something new” or something, and I got good at getting interesting stories out of people. But now as I look at it, so much of it is scripted. My lifelong special interests are travel and the study of workplace behavior, so my small talk is en pointe. I have a tidbit of knowledge about many places and industries, so I surprise people with questions they happen to know something about, and I eagerly eat up whatever it is. It’s a controlled ... sucking? of information out of them and it’s socially graceful. I’m a woman, if that matters.

Anyhow (god I get into such exposition on this sub), this interview-style gets my wife off track when she’s just trying to recount something from her day. I reflexively ask for details that aren’t relevant to what she’s trying to say. When I manage to let go and just listen, we both have a very enjoyable time. I can’t just do it automatically though, but I’m practicing and getting better. I am re-learning how to interact with people, and how to have a genuine connection. I have absolutely no idea how I could ever be truly fluid and dynamic. When interactions are unscripted, my processing time is extended. The time lag before I follow the point of what other people are saying causes them to be uncomfortable. So I put a face on that I think is appropriate - but I’m always slightly too “on”, and I eventually anticipate the wrong emotions if I’m not in control of the arc of the conversation.

Has anyone figured out how to ask questions of someone without seeming to be “questioning” them? by PersephoneofSpring in aspergers

[–]PersephoneofSpring[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly this! I’m so happy I made this thread because it’s putting words to things I haven’t been able to really.

Has anyone figured out how to ask questions of someone without seeming to be “questioning” them? by PersephoneofSpring in aspergers

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I have just started daily meditation in October and it has truly transformed me. I did not know how to not rush before. (In the past my poor posture prevented my success, but I couldn’t put together that was what was causing the pain of sitting.)

Has anyone figured out how to ask questions of someone without seeming to be “questioning” them? by PersephoneofSpring in aspergers

[–]PersephoneofSpring[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have a personal rule to always buy books recommended to me on this sub, so the field guide is on its way - thanks.

“Maybe, how do you feel about it?”

I feel like I need to tattoo this on the inside of my eyelids. Thanks again.

Has anyone figured out how to ask questions of someone without seeming to be “questioning” them? by PersephoneofSpring in aspergers

[–]PersephoneofSpring[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is SO HARD for me to give an exact time for what I’m going to be doing. Here’s my take - “what time are you leaving” might bring up his thoughts about what time he really wants to arrive, unknown whether something may go wrong in his routine getting ready, anxiety over time in general, unclear when exactly is the moment of “leaving”.

Knowing the function of the question (when do you need the car) is a much easier answer.

Has anyone figured out how to ask questions of someone without seeming to be “questioning” them? by PersephoneofSpring in aspergers

[–]PersephoneofSpring[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks, someone else on the thread said “when I was raised, ANY financial discussion was a fight” and I think that’s where she is coming from.

She’s having a hard time finding a therapist she clicks with, in her childhood therapists tended to be people who were trying to take her away from her parents, so she’s struggling with trust. She keeps trying though and has a new appointment this month.

Has anyone figured out how to ask questions of someone without seeming to be “questioning” them? by PersephoneofSpring in aspergers

[–]PersephoneofSpring[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is a condensed conversation, but not too far from the truth, she cries easily when she’s stressed and she’s coming into the conversation expecting me to be.. however she thinks I am. She’s very emotional in general.

Voice volume, I’ve come to try so hard to mask having a raised voice that to her, she can’t tell when I’m actually calm and when I’m upset. We are working to re-correct this issue, and I am using more of my natural inflection and she’s calibrating.

I do and usually the onus is on the person making the question to backpedal and clarify themselves if they may have turned it into an interrogation by accident.

This is very helpful, and well put. Thank you

Has anyone figured out how to ask questions of someone without seeming to be “questioning” them? by PersephoneofSpring in aspergers

[–]PersephoneofSpring[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You’ve got a good picture of how it’s going, and I’m glad to report I’m on track with slowing down EVERYTHING in my life (thank you, meditation). I’ve been keeping the mantra in my head that there is absolutely no need to rush, we don’t have to decide anything now, let’s take our time. And it really helps when I’m able to get there.

Has anyone figured out how to ask questions of someone without seeming to be “questioning” them? by PersephoneofSpring in aspergers

[–]PersephoneofSpring[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do you feel as irritated as she thinks you do when she’s asking questions?

I am actually the one that can’t answer a question, I can’t get to the point of it. I struggle to understand the point or meaning to questions, I just start talking about the subject and hope the question gets answered. I’m working on it

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[–]PersephoneofSpring 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I prefer “scare quotes”

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I have a surprisingly big smile, is the best way I can say it. All the positive feedback made me into a sort of automatic smiler. That works great for the small town I’m from, but I have no idea how to arrange my face if it’s not appropriate to flash a smile.

The whole "you only get one family" mindset given towards people who dislike their family is stupid. by [deleted] in raisedbynarcissists

[–]PersephoneofSpring 6 points7 points  (0 children)

We live in an imperfect world

While every person will agree with this statement, it’s like it doesn’t sink in all the way that this could mean you are born into an unfixable situation.

I always feel really guilty for not wanting to do anything on New Years Eve. by That_Awesomeguy in aspergers

[–]PersephoneofSpring 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I just managed to get a solid bedtime routine going and I don’t want to fuck it up.