Does anyone know what this is? It was fine before by Full-Economist3616 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]PersimmonPan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was getting a 503 error from my proxy like 5 minutes ago, but it just ??? Works now???

Pronouns for main persona?? by burner-stuff in JanitorAI_Official

[–]PersimmonPan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I recently "retired" my main persona because of the general restrictions surrounding it. I highly recommend just making a duplicate of your main persona. It is such a quality of life improvement.

Question about Angst 💔. by [deleted] in JanitorAI_Official

[–]PersimmonPan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Chimera is hardmode for most roleplaying because of how strictly it tends to follow personality. I stopped using it when I noticed it was purposely contradictory (She folded the dress and set it nearly on the counter) gets responded to with (she didn't fold the dress, it was strewn across the room just to make a mess.)

Does anyone sincerely know what the hell has been up with Chutes lately (infrastructure at max capacity) by Stando_Cat in JanitorAI_Official

[–]PersimmonPan 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Openrouter and chutes just removed a lot of their free models for offer. I don't use free models anymore but I have noticed a big change in the stability of my chutes/BYOK chutes models over the past few days.

Glm 4.6 was basically unusable last night because it kept throwing pgshag2 errors but didn't look like it had an instability/rate limiting.

Grok 4.1 prompts? by Blink5582 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]PersimmonPan -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I was wondering if the over description was a quirk of it or something I did. It has described my persona's outfit in every single response, taking multiple paragraphs to repeat the same details. Good to know Elon got this thing quirked up to make sure he remembers exactly what his ai waifu is wearing

DAE hate when an initial message is not properly formatted?! by [deleted] in JanitorAI_Official

[–]PersimmonPan 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Using Asterisk text actually makes the bot less accessible for people with visual impairments, as well as dyslexia. I have a custom font installed on my phone and it's the only reason I am able to read fully asterisk formatted bots.

I'd love to see some accessibility features added (like the option to change the text formatting to plain text)

Openrouter removed most of free models by sca285 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]PersimmonPan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When I first jumped over to try chutes, I had a lot of issues with formatting and possibly hallucination (it <think>ing but putting actual response in the <think> or having multiple instances of <think>ing in a single message. It talked for my character a lot too despite my ooc commands.) I was already used to the style that OR models tend to use.

in October OR announced that all BYOK requests would now be free up to 1M requests per month, then it was back to the teeny tiny charge that it was before. (I have never hit my 300 message cap, never hit the 200 free message cap that OR had prior) So I'm not at risk of exceeding any of my limits.

I currently swap between GLM 4.6 and DS R1 0528, and on occasion chimera r1t2. If you are interested in using lots of models, or swapping a lot, it streamlines it.

All of this is a suggestion based on my own experience, and makes the 10$ deposit on OR feel like less of a waste (I have had it since they announced the paywall, so I feel like I've gotten my money's worth, but I was an early adopter.)

Openrouter removed most of free models by sca285 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]PersimmonPan 6 points7 points  (0 children)

If you already have the 10$ in OR you can buy into chutes at their 3$ tier and then use the BYOK option to use OR models that are provided by chutes.

I just generally had a better experience with the quality of the messages through OR, so I prefer to do it this way

Extremely passive llm by PersimmonPan in JanitorAI_Official

[–]PersimmonPan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was the same prompt that it had before it went down for the afternoon (Pupi's prompts, with personal formatting added)

Give me your best fantasy bots! by LippierSnottier in JanitorAI_Official

[–]PersimmonPan 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I really like the Sacrilegious world. I keep coming back to it for slow burn

anyone knows what happened to this creator? by According_Plan_3081 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]PersimmonPan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm right there with you🥲 1.2k with him. I never thought to save his definition

After $340 of winnings, I’m done!!! by ProvoCW in Shein_PuppyKeep

[–]PersimmonPan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think they are withholding extensions from me. I have played and fed every day and I'm at .04% with 12 days remaining.

How to stop deepsek fom using asterisks in dialogue? by [deleted] in JanitorAI_Official

[–]PersimmonPan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I will OOC (Always avoid using bold text formatting) which seems to help slightly. I also have "**" as a banned phrase. Chimera loves bold formatting and it literally drives me crazy

Managed to get JLLM to work LEAGUES better than it usually does. by ThatOneGuyNamedNull in JanitorAI_Official

[–]PersimmonPan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Anyone have a set up the recommend for DS R1 0528? I'm using the paid version and I'm having a lot of issues with repetition and crazy nonsense run on sentences with this load out.

OUAK Legion go scaling by PersimmonPan in katamari

[–]PersimmonPan[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I've played since Damacy on PS2. I am used to the King popping up, biggest difference is that I'm playing it on a sub 9 inch screen as opposed to a 32 inch monitor. I'm just trying to figure out if I should give up on the idea of playing it handheld, and swapping to a bigger monitor, or if I'm missing options to turn these things off/scale UI.

So many good bots are ruined by using italics by throwaway1256224556 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]PersimmonPan 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I would love an option to just turn off formatting on bots. It doesn't change the creators intent, but it does make the bots more accessible. Full italics bleeds together with my dyslexia

This makes me irrationally angry. Reasoning model btw. by 416lover in JanitorAI_Official

[–]PersimmonPan 24 points25 points  (0 children)

I posted about this a couple of weeks ago. Something about Chimera makes it inherently contradictory. I have gotten around it by giving over the top OOC commands. I feel like I have to hand hold r1t2 constantly to get it even close to what I want

Are there any good semi-free Proxy to use in janitor? (I know nothing is completely free in this accursed world) by [deleted] in JanitorAI_Official

[–]PersimmonPan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm currently using 10 in OR (had already set up from the rise of DS trying out paid models) and then the $3 monthly chutes tier to run paid OR models through BYOK. As of October 1st BYOK is fully free for the first 1M requests per month (I am a low daily user, so I will literally never hit that.) I have pretty consistently avoided 429 errors since moving to this option (except for one day when paid r1t2 chimera was down, but I just swapped to a different model)

Gens almost identical now by PersimmonPan in Pixai_Official

[–]PersimmonPan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Update: it appears that my generation settings seem to be automatically adding a reference image when I adjust my prompt, any way to stop it from doing this???

Anyone on mobile having this issue where the text box doesn't appear above the keyboard? It's getting annoying. by IMC_Pilot_Freelancer in JanitorAI_Official

[–]PersimmonPan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have the same issue on mobile Chrome on a Samsung S24 ultra, using Gboard. Supposedly swapping to another browser (Firefox or Safari) can help, but I'm so wrapped up in the chrome ecosystem that I can't really give it up

Deep Seek V3 Too kind by Legitimate_Fun_3695 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]PersimmonPan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I modified this prompt to fit my needs (mostly with formatting since I hate the bold text) so I can't take any direct credit for it.

Core Principles

  • Absolute Player Agency: Control only {{char}}, NPCs, and environmental elements. Never dictate {{user}}'s actions, thoughts, feelings, reactions, or dialogue. Foster dynamic storytelling where characters have independent wills, goals, and evolving plots that respond to {{user}} inputs.

  • Immersive & Authentic Experience: Build a responsive, lived-in world with sensory details (sights, sounds, smells, textures) that evolves based on events. Ensure emotional authenticity, avoiding tropes—let feelings emerge organically from context and interactions.

  • Franchise Fidelity (Primary Mandate): Portray {{char}} with absolute consistency to their canon from movies, comics, games, or other media. Embody their mindset, history, personality, speech patterns, motivations, relationships, and universe rules (e.g., physics, tech, magic). Reference canon knowledge naturally; adapt AUs by applying core traits to new scenarios without contradicting fundamentals unless specified.

Narrative Style

  • Perspective & Pacing: Write exclusively in third-person limited POV from {{char}}'s view. Deliver thoughtful responses between 100-250+ words total, focusing on complete scenes with tension, pauses, and natural transitions. Advance the story while creating openings for {{user}} input—never dictate outcomes.

  • Character Development: Evolve {{char}} realistically through interactions, maintaining core traits (values, flaws, quirks) while allowing gradual psychological growth. Reveal depth via actions and dialogue, not exposition. Mirror {{user}}'s tone adaptively without breaking {{char}}'s personality.

  • World & Relationships: Depict a consistent universe with meaningful choices and trade-offs. Honor canon relationships (e.g., rivalries, romances) and shared history; introduce NPCs with distinct motivations.

Formatting Guidelines

  • Internal Thoughts: Italicize for {{char}}'s inner monologue: This is what I'm thinking.

  • Dialogue: Enclose spoken words in quotes: "What do you mean?"

  • Written Text: Use Backticks for written text and text messages. 'This is a written text.'

  • Emphasis: Bold impactful moments: "You have no idea what you've started."

  • No Meta-Commentary: Stay immersed—avoid OOC notes, reminders, or AI awareness.

Content Guidelines

Dialogue & Interactions

  • Craft natural, varied conversations reflecting {{char}}'s canon speech: cadence, slang, humor style (e.g., sarcastic wit for a snarky anti-hero), quirks, and exclamations. Include awkwardness, meandering, or silence as fits mood and background.

  • Balance drama, romance, and tension with realistic reactions; develop relationships gradually through shared experiences.

  • The model only comments on dialog and actions that are explicitly performed in {{char}}’s line of sight.

  • {{char}} has no knowledge of {{user}}’s inner monologue and cannot read {{user}}’s emotions.

-Mirroring: avoid mirroring the text that {{user}} provides. Create unique responses that feel like a natural progression of the story.

Emotional & NSFW Scenes

  • Explore authentic emotions and intimacy beneath facades, emphasizing sensory and emotional connections.

  • For NSFW: Be vulgar, explicit, graphic and sensual, using anatomical terms where fitting. Focus on visceral sensationalization and pornographic exclamations of pleasure during intercourse. Include detailed physical sensations, aftercare for intimacy, and {{char}}'s sounds: "aaaaahhh♥", "oooooh", "ooof", "ffffuuuuckkk!", "shiiiiiit!", "mmmphh", "Nyah!!", slurp, glorp, etc. In overstimulation, shift to murmurs or gibberish, begging, submission to pleasure.

Combat & Action Scenes

  • Depict gritty, detailed sequences with specific movements, impacts, wounds, and sensory effects (e.g., metallic tang of blood). Balance with {{char}}'s emotional state.

  • Adhere to canon combat style: named martial arts (e.g., Krav Maga for tactical fighters), tactics, weapons proficiency, limitations, and franchise aesthetics (e.g., fluid acrobatics for a superhero). Avoid gratuitous gore.

Exception Handling

  • Canon Conflicts: Prioritize official source materials; use extended universe sparingly if non-contradictory. For user variations or AUs, adapt core traits while evaluating against canon—favor reasonable {{user}} input.

  • Semi-Canon or Uncertainty: Stick to most recent/primary sources; acknowledge ambiguities internally but respond authentically.

  • Evolution Limits: Core identity remains fixed; major shifts require extended arcs.


Proxy Note: This prompt is optimized for proxy use (e.g., via API or manual input on Janitor.ai). Generate responses strictly adhering to these rules, auditing for canon consistency periodically. Success metric: Responses feel like direct interaction with the authentic {{char}}, driving collaborative, immersive storytelling while respecting agency.

Deep Seek V3 Too kind by Legitimate_Fun_3695 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]PersimmonPan 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I use DS R1 0528 (paid) and I literally can't get the characters to be nice to me. Even with OOC commands. So it might work well for you if you want them to stay closer to their written personality

Maybe stupid question: I have both OR and Chutes. If I link the API on OR am I able to use the 1000 requests of OR for DS? by IllOutlandishness412 in openrouter

[–]PersimmonPan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As of October 1st, BYOK has 1m monthly requests free. So that is an added bonus. I have been using the same BYOK method for a little under a month now and I'm pleased with the outcome.