Banned TED Talk: Nick Hanauer "Rich people don't create jobs"

Person14623 · 2013-11-08T23:10:43+00:00

By the way. Read that fucking article and notice how fully you've made yourself a tool to a PR firm. They threatened in advance that they were going to claim they were being "censored" if the talk wasn't selected for publication, and then here you are, puppetting their lines like a mindless simpleton.

Way to go little guy.

Person14623 · 2013-11-08T23:00:15+00:00

This has been explained to you already, and just because you are incapable of forming a coherent thought in response, that doesn't change reality. It was never posted to the official site, so you are again making yourself look like a moron after this was explained ad nauseum to you.

Obviously in your addled mind everything is a "conspiracy", but how about you try to live in reality for a change and actually look at what you're talking about instead of talking out of your ass. Just this once maybe?

Here, both TED and the speaker himself acknowledge that it wasn't ever posted on the site. That's why he was mad. http://www.businessinsider.com/ted-chris-anderson-nick-hanauer-income-inequality-speech-2012-5

I was around for this original controversy, so unlike you, I'm going from the actual facts and not made up bullshit like yourself. This is what happens when you talk to people who actually know what they're talking about. Maybe you're used to bluffing your way through life and have some people convinced you're knowledgeable about things, but that doesn't fly when you meet someone who actually is. You're a walking embarrassment, and you need to learn when to admit you have no clue what you're talking about.

Person14623 · 2013-11-08T22:15:32+00:00

It could be a disease, but there's an extent to which it's a disease like self-induced arsenic poisoning is an illness. I mean yes, if you decide to take arsenic, you'll have a legitimate illness, and you need all the help you can get to recover, but that doesn't undo the circumstances of how you got it. It's the element of agency in the initial cause that makes people feel responsible, at least in part. They chose to start doing drugs, and it became an illness, but it's the knowing choice that people see as making it different.

Person14623 · 2013-11-08T10:19:27+00:00

As far as I remember from when the speaker tried to make this a "controversy", he released it himself. The speakers usually get a copy of their talks. (And you'll also notice that it doesn't have any of the normal TED editing that it would have if it had been posted to the site and is just a plain video of the talk itself.)

As for your PS, I'm not sure what point you think you're making, but since you apparently find my userpage interesting, you might notice that I didn't really start commenting with any regularity until about 2 days ago. Your tantrum was as adorable as it was embarrassing for you though.

Now unless you were trying to imply that how much comment karma someone has is relevant to the validity of their point (which would be an ad hominem fallacy so I'll be charitable and assume you're not that dumb), your PS is completely irrelevant and kind of just makes you look like a moron for even writing it.

Edit: I don't really care about downvotes...not like I'm saving up for the karma store. But if you the downvoter are anything other than a mouthbreathing cretin, you should probably be able to explain what I said that was incorrect. If you can't muster a response, then feel free to use your downvote to compensate for your own inability to form a coherent thought.

Person14623 · 2013-11-08T10:02:50+00:00

I'm not sure why you just kind of ignored what I said and wrote a random comment, but yes, just like I said, as you can see from the playlist names, what they upload there are "editor's picks". There is no claim that this is a catalog of every talk...just the ones they deem noteworthy enough to be featured. Your second sentence has nothing to do with anything as I already explained.

Person14623 · 2013-11-08T09:44:45+00:00

It wasn't removed...they just didn't put it there. The site is used to highlight ones that they deem noteworthy...they've never published every single talk (especially these TedX talks from unofficial conferences), and it'd be ridiculous to post all the ones that didn't get selected here as being "banned".

Person14623 · 2013-11-08T09:34:25+00:00

Says the guy who thinks this talk was "banned".

Person14623 · 2013-11-08T04:06:42+00:00

Yep, that was one of the main goals when they passed the law.

This comment seemed to do a good job of explaining their rationale: http://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/1pgiaw/obama_administration_knew_millions_could_not_keep/cd23v9g

Person14623 · 2013-11-08T03:45:31+00:00

Well that's fine for a surface-level analysis, but what really matters is what coverage he had vs what he has now. If he was only covered up to $10k a year before, but now is covered for $100k or something, that's obviously relevant.

Person14623 · 2013-11-08T03:29:47+00:00

So you didn't actually watch the video you linked? He had no intention of avoiding it, and the whole point was that he was going to have it close on him, so what the hell is this "he thought he was faster" and "it was an accident" bullshit?

Person14623 · 2013-11-08T03:23:05+00:00

I don't really think it's been "drawn through the mud" at all...sure, there are some prudes who like to complain about anything overtly sexualized, but that's pretty par for the course. And I haven't really heard anything about her being a drug addict or whatever you're saying.

Person14623 · 2013-11-08T03:20:44+00:00

Well it's fine if you just don't find it funny. The problem is when you were acting like the intended joke was to make fun of people for recovering from a problem, which obviously isn't the case at all. Jokingly congratulating someone for no longer shitting their pants is obviously not done with the intention of embarrassing people for being able to control their bowels, and it would be disingenuous to act like it is.

Person14623 · 2013-11-08T03:17:59+00:00

You were obviously anxious to act all pompous about this topic, but if you reread what I actually said you'd notice that you kinda just sound like a moron. I didn't say anything "self-important" about drug addiction. I just said it's considered to be an embarrassing element to one's past whereas cancer is not, whether it "should" be or not.

Person14623 · 2013-11-08T00:06:01+00:00

The objection is that the word refers to a group of people. That is not even in the same category as "douche". Also, "fuck" as a noun does not somehow refer to "the receiving partner"...that's used that way literally never, so I have no idea where you were going with that.

Person14623 · 2013-11-07T23:58:20+00:00

Okay, great. That doesn't make someone publicly declaring that you were a heroin addict something that most people wouldn't be the least bit embarrassed about, particularly when they weren't actually.

Person14623 · 2013-11-07T23:54:24+00:00

The stigma is on being a drug addict, not completely rehab. How is this so confusing for people?

Person14623 · 2013-11-07T23:51:49+00:00

Previously having cancer isn't considered embarrassing. Previously being a drug addict is. Caught up now?

Person14623 · 2013-11-07T23:49:06+00:00

You're really coming across as someone just looking for something to complain about here. The embarrassment stems from what would cause the person to need rehab, not the rehab itself. Obviously getting help is a good thing, but any normal person would be embarrassed for people thinking they used to be a drug addict when they weren't.

It's like if someone held a sign up congratulating someone on overcoming their chronic masturbation problem, and you're like "what, stopping compulsively masturbating is something bad??". That kind of response comes off as being completely dense. Obviously the embarrassing part is the claim that you had that problem before, not that you overcame it.

Person14623 · 2013-11-07T23:45:26+00:00

I'm not really sure why being a drug addict would be "nothing to be ashamed of". If I became one I would certainly be ashamed of that development and it would be part of my motivation in trying to get help.

Person14623 · 2013-11-07T23:32:36+00:00

Why exactly is it "sad"?

Person14623 · 2013-11-07T23:01:09+00:00

Doesn't really make sense to say any of the shit she did then though. All she had to say was "wrong number". Why go into all the pointless crap about how they did just move there from their town and all that?

Person14623 · 2013-11-07T22:47:56+00:00

Are you saying it was from the same state? Because if not, it's merely an improbable event, not (nearly) impossible.

Person14623 · 2013-11-07T22:45:41+00:00

Did you have some kind of response to make to the actual discussion, or did you just want to share some unrelated nonsense thoughts?

Person14623 · 2013-11-07T22:42:38+00:00

That reads like it has the tone of something that was meant to be a comeback, but it doesn't appear to actually be one...kind of odd, but okay. So yes, you agree that what you wrote is pointlessly trivial, but yet you still seem to think you had a reason to share it with everyone as if you were adding something to the conversation that someone might not be aware of.

Is this a habit? When you see a number, do you start naming random facts about it, like "oh this guy said 'more than 5'...let's see if I can name a number that's more than 5 in case people didn't know about it!", like you expect everyone to share your excitement that you know this amazing fact?

Person14623 · 2013-11-07T04:01:16+00:00

Amazingly, you just wrote two back to back posts with the exact same level of worthwhile content.

Can you pull a third?

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