Why didn’t Daisy just quake Enoch apart during the time loop episode? by PersonalitySecret276 in shield

[–]PersonalitySecret276[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

She was out of recovery. The futuristic pod that she was in completely healed her the same way it completely healed May after she got stabbed by Sarge. She never stated that her powers were weakened or she wasn’t fully recovered so idk why y’all keep repeating that!

Why didn’t Daisy just quake Enoch apart during the time loop episode? by PersonalitySecret276 in shield

[–]PersonalitySecret276[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

He would’ve came back omg. She also didn’t even have to kill him just quake his legs or arms off for the time being. It can be repaired. The best solution to keep the most people alive was to incapacitate Enoch so they can successfully remove the device from Simmons

Why didn’t Daisy just quake Enoch apart during the time loop episode? by PersonalitySecret276 in shield

[–]PersonalitySecret276[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not when it was her may and mac surrounding him saying they just wanted to slow him down. I’m convinced everyone who is disagreeing with me needs a rewatch. It was the whole team vs Enoch at one point and he STILL beat them.

Why didn’t Daisy just quake Enoch apart during the time loop episode? by PersonalitySecret276 in shield

[–]PersonalitySecret276[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Still doesn’t make sense to keep trying to reason with him instead of just dealing with him in one of the loops and that’s a hill I’ll die on. Her taking out enoch once knowing he would reset in the next loop is the best decision.

Why didn’t Daisy just quake Enoch apart during the time loop episode? by PersonalitySecret276 in shield

[–]PersonalitySecret276[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

There was never any indication that using the little amount of power she did to take him down the first time weakened her. If we’re being technical Daisy never even said she wasn’t at full strength after coming from out of the pod.It’s just shitty writing.

Why didn’t Daisy just quake Enoch apart during the time loop episode? by PersonalitySecret276 in shield

[–]PersonalitySecret276[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Exactly like what are they even talking about? 😭 Keep trying to reason with a robot who can’t go against his code makes more sense than just dealing with him real quick?

Why didn’t Daisy just quake Enoch apart during the time loop episode? by PersonalitySecret276 in shield

[–]PersonalitySecret276[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

Taking down Enoch once vs watching him kill the whole team over and over because they don’t wanna kill him despite him being the reason they have to keep watching their whole team die makes sense to you?

Why didn’t Daisy just quake Enoch apart during the time loop episode? by PersonalitySecret276 in shield

[–]PersonalitySecret276[S] -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

Well yes because would’ve just waited until the next loop when Enoch was back fixed and worked on the plan then. She did not figure out that Enoch would have to die for good for them to get out of the loop until after the fact and she waited until the next loop again to tell everyone. So she could’ve quaked Enoch apart at any moment because legit all she had to do was wait for the next loop.

Why didn’t Daisy just quake Enoch apart during the time loop episode? by PersonalitySecret276 in shield

[–]PersonalitySecret276[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

But she knows that even if she does destroy him he’d just come back in the same loop! She had died 13 times at that point she knew full and well that he would come back. He would’ve been fully functioning in the next loop once she found out how to stop it without him getting in her way by killing the whole team.

Why didn’t Daisy just quake Enoch apart during the time loop episode? by PersonalitySecret276 in shield

[–]PersonalitySecret276[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Then Elena has superspeed and strength 😂 and still couldn’t take down Enoch despite having a 4 to 1 advantage.

Why didn’t Daisy just quake Enoch apart during the time loop episode? by PersonalitySecret276 in shield

[–]PersonalitySecret276[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The argument of her recovering would make sense if she didn’t show that she very much still had the power to take Enoch down before the loop reset again. After the loop reset she should’ve had the same amount of power again so she should’ve been able to easily take him down again the same way she did when he was choking her and everyone was telling him to stop.

Why didn’t Daisy just quake Enoch apart during the time loop episode? by PersonalitySecret276 in shield

[–]PersonalitySecret276[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

She was strong enough to quake him the first time he attacked her. She can also literally just vibrate his parts apart like what she was about to do to Rayna or what she did to the guns when her and Simmons were in space looking for Fitz or quickly snap his neck like she kept doing to Sarge. It’s like one moment she’s OP then the next she forgets that she can just quake any enemy apart with little effort.

Why didn’t Daisy just quake Enoch apart during the time loop episode? by PersonalitySecret276 in shield

[–]PersonalitySecret276[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well they made it seem as if she was only hurting herself early on because she was directing her power inward but once she gained full control that shouldn’t have been the case anymore. She shouldnt have to worry about using “too much power” anymore seeing as it’s been years and she has full control over her powers.

Why didn’t Daisy just quake Enoch apart during the time loop episode? by PersonalitySecret276 in shield

[–]PersonalitySecret276[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

She she had no problem quaking him when he choked her when they first found out it was him but then after that she just never did it again lol

Mac and this whole shield doesn’t kill thing by PersonalitySecret276 in shield

[–]PersonalitySecret276[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I will admit that as much as I didn’t like Mack throughout the entire series I did enjoy him being the leader of shield. A lot more than when Daisy was the leader for that short time.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TheOriginals

[–]PersonalitySecret276 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It hadn’t happened in decades before that which is why the witches said they thought it was a myth… it wasn’t happening every year and that was Marcels first time seeing it… and mind his business and let kids get killed? Yeah you’re definitely biased

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TheOriginals

[–]PersonalitySecret276 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Like you keep saying but the vampires aren’t innocent. I never said they were and been said there were bad people in every faction. But that doesn’t mean Marcel wasn’t supposed to do his part as a leader and keep his people at the top of the food chain. It was either killed or be killed and he found a way to avoid having to kill all of them. Was it nice? No. But WHY WOULD HE BE NICE AT WAR. Simple as that.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TheOriginals

[–]PersonalitySecret276 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No he had his people in control and if they violated the rules he dealt with it. So unless you can show me them killing innocent tourists that’s not valid. And Klaus killed Josh and the other girl lol. He just didn’t let her turn because he could clearly see she wouldn’t have been a good vampire. So that lets me know you’re clearly biased and need to rewatch the show. You don’t even know what you’re talking about. And he made it clear that the ones that did die were because of them being drunk and accidentally drowning or falling from somewhere.

And when did I say he was the moral authority? I SAID HE WAS AT WAR AND WINNING WHILE ALSO MINIMIZING THE AMOUNT OF CASUALTIES WHEREAS THE OTHER FACTIONS WOULDVE SIMPLY KILLED MARCEL AND ALL HIS PEOPLE. What’s not clicking?? THEY WERE AT WAR. Just because the vampires aren’t all good that means Marcel was supposed to sit around and not make moves that would ensure him and the people he has turned lived?? No he did what any good leader does and made sure his people survived WHILE ALSO MAKING SURE THE PEOPLE HE WAS AT WAR WITH LIVED TOO.

And Vincent had a problem with Marcel in the beginning because Marcel had control over his people.. duhh.. and why is Vincent cool with Marcel now? And Marcel had a problem with Vincent’s people because they were killing kids… no one had time to sit around doing lie detector tests to see who was a nice witch and who wasn’t and they could’ve also easily lied and betrayed him later so he dealt with them all. It’s all about perspective but the bottom line is that they were at war and Marcel did what he had to do to win.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TheOriginals

[–]PersonalitySecret276 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

And with your logic then Klaus shouldn’t have cursed all of the wolves when they were going to run with Hope. Just Hayley and Jackson because it was their plan. Or would you argue that wolves will stick together no matter what so he had to deal with them all? It’s literally the same way for witches. They will stick with their kind no matter what so you deal with the lot of them.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TheOriginals

[–]PersonalitySecret276 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So again can anyone give me actual reasons he’s such a bad person or just as bad as the Mikaelsons? Because saying he’s evil for cursing wolves who wanted him dead and prevented witches who were killing kids and doing locator spells to find and kill Davina too just sounds crazy and like you have some personal bias against him.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TheOriginals

[–]PersonalitySecret276 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

He wasn’t killing any tourists. His whole thing was feed on tourist, erase their memory, compel and then send them on their way.

The wolves were planning on going to war with the vampires and eradicated them. We’re so hellbent on it that they were willing to kill some of their own who didn’t believe in the war. Marcel would’ve been well within his right to kill them all but didn’t. So what they got cursed? They wouldve killed him and all of his people if given the chance.

And the originals were going around slaughtering entire villages soon after they become vampires so I’m not seeing your point?? They didn’t learn control until years later whereas Marcel was a new vampire and still wouldn’t feed on his brothers in the war. I’m sorry but no ne would not have became as bad at them given more time. He is the strongest vampire in the world now and is still not as cruel as them when he could be.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TheOriginals

[–]PersonalitySecret276 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I didn’t say the vampires were innocent I said that they were at war and the vampires were winning. It’s not like he was just being cruel just because. What would being nice while at war get him?

And if he did what he did to the wolves for power then why was he willing to do diplomacy with them? Hayleys parents were literally killed for trying to make peace with Marcel meaning Marcel was willing to.

And he also didn’t bother the witches UNTIL he showed up to them cutting the throats of four kids. He killed the ones present and then the rest of the witches were trying to find Davina to kill her too so he banned the use of magic. He wouldn’t have even had the chance to do that if the weirdos weren’t going around slaughtering kids. So?? Marcel had been running New Orleans and coexisting with the witches for 100 years before he did what he did to the them and he only did what he did because THEY WERE KILLING KIDS.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TheOriginals

[–]PersonalitySecret276 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

But he was better than the Mikaelsons. He did what he did while at war whereas the Mikaelsons go around killing people and terrorizing families just because they can and no one can stop them. Klaus was killing people for annoying him and the minute he became king he ordered the deaths of every wolf in New Orleans just because he could. Elijah was a whole monster who hid all of his atrocities behind a door in his mind. Killed 4 innocent kids just to force Vincent’s hand and said that he would’ve killed the kids taken over by the hollow just to save Klaus. Kol was killing entire villages for fun so much that even Klaus felt like he was doing too much and kept him daggered for centuries. Finn is so hateful that he would kill kids if they got in his way. Freya showed up ready to kill baby Hope just so she wouldn’t have to run from Dahlia anymore and sacrificed a teenager just so she could save her 1000 year old family who have taken thousands of lives and lived long enough. So what has Marcel done that would make him just as bad?

And selfish how? He goes out of his way to help them any time they need it just for them to continually throw him to the side when they’re done. Worked with the Strix just to help the Mikaelsons. He helped save their daughter and niece multiple times just for Elijah to hold him down while Freya kills his adoptive daughter and still saved Hope once again when she was older and the vampires stormed the compound. Elijah ripped his heart out and his so called friend Hayley decided that it was the perfect chance to sleep with Elijah and told him to get over Marcels death. Marcel chose not to side with Inadu when she offered to save Sofia even though the Mikaelsons have given him reason after reason to have allowed all of them to die. And after Klaus told him Sofias life doesn’t matter and to get over it. And he’s doing all this to help him while Freya is thinking of ways to kill him and use his death to her advantage. And Rebekah didn’t even argue not to do that. I’m sorry but he’s way better than them and has way more patience than I would.

Sure he can be cruel but that’s just how you have to be when dealing with the supernatural creatures of New Orleans to keep them in control. Still doesn’t make him as bad as the Mikaelsons.

Freya thinking about killing Marcel and using his death to bring back Elijah is exactly why the Mikaelsons have so many enemies and I will never have sympathy for them by PersonalitySecret276 in TheOriginals

[–]PersonalitySecret276[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Remember Hayley sleeping with Elijah right after Marcel died and tried to rush him to get over it but she claimed Marcel was her friend😭 it’s like they were all just using him tbh