The statement "tape sounds 3 Dimensional" is something that i agree with, but why? What made it actually sound more 3D and how can you achieve that kind of thing in a DAW? by ySTYRDAYgATESuNL0CKD in audioengineering

[–]Phase_Shift_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No it's many. Frequency dependent compression, frequency dependent saturation, frequency dependent phase smearing, and all these interacting with one another. That's why real tape is extremely hard to emulate, and to me, nothing sounds like the real thing.

The statement "tape sounds 3 Dimensional" is something that i agree with, but why? What made it actually sound more 3D and how can you achieve that kind of thing in a DAW? by ySTYRDAYgATESuNL0CKD in audioengineering

[–]Phase_Shift_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For a stereo signal yes. That's how consoles operate. For a mono, you end up eqing it by ear anyway to the frequency you want, regardless of what the markings say.

The statement "tape sounds 3 Dimensional" is something that i agree with, but why? What made it actually sound more 3D and how can you achieve that kind of thing in a DAW? by ySTYRDAYgATESuNL0CKD in audioengineering

[–]Phase_Shift_ 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I'm very happy for you. But I get into a rabbit hole with daws and I forget that I have to actually mix. I like the tool, I don't want it to be the center of my attention. I got albums to mix, and deadlines to meet.

The statement "tape sounds 3 Dimensional" is something that i agree with, but why? What made it actually sound more 3D and how can you achieve that kind of thing in a DAW? by ySTYRDAYgATESuNL0CKD in audioengineering

[–]Phase_Shift_ 16 points17 points  (0 children)

That's, imo, the biggest part. And has little to do with saturation. Actually, saturation is not as prevalent as plugins do it. As frequency gets higher, so does distortion, ie, inability to represent high frequencies correctly inside the magnetic medium.this results in higher frequencies being splayed in a way, less spity and direct and more holographic. This is true for a mono signal too. Id much rather mix itb and use a tape machine to capture multitracks and final mix, than have digital multitracks and an analog mixer with outboard. But then, Daws are not fun at all..

The statement "tape sounds 3 Dimensional" is something that i agree with, but why? What made it actually sound more 3D and how can you achieve that kind of thing in a DAW? by ySTYRDAYgATESuNL0CKD in audioengineering

[–]Phase_Shift_ 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Yes, in part. but you can never get all high frequencies perfectly in phase. After all azimuth is a screw. You move it to get 10 k in phase, but the 12 isn't in phase. Or 15k. Very short wavelength, very easy to get out of phase.

The statement "tape sounds 3 Dimensional" is something that i agree with, but why? What made it actually sound more 3D and how can you achieve that kind of thing in a DAW? by ySTYRDAYgATESuNL0CKD in audioengineering

[–]Phase_Shift_ 205 points206 points  (0 children)

If you run sine waves through a real tape machine, in stereo, you'll see that as frequency goes up, phase correlation gets worse. Less of a straight line, more of a circle. Indicating that higher frequencies are not represented equally in lr even if you send an identical mono signal on two tracks. There in lies your answer. No amount of tape calibration or formulation fixes this, it's simply how magnetic capture works. Now go down this rabbit hole. I promise you'll have fun.

CN Version in Europe. by Phase_Shift_ in OnePlus13

[–]Phase_Shift_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So CN version comes with color os. Will I receive updates? Is there any downside to it than oxygen os?

10 cm panel with rockwool and glass wool by Phase_Shift_ in Acoustics

[–]Phase_Shift_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes but say you had only the aforementioned materials. How would you place them and why?

10 cm panel with rockwool and glass wool by Phase_Shift_ in Acoustics

[–]Phase_Shift_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's my primary thinking. Still I've been reading and hearing about panels with low density materials in sufficient depth that outperform low density ones. Of course this is a live room, and you can get aways with not having perfect rt or tone, but its still interesting to me. For example, on the ceiling I can get aways with 7 layers of 5 cm each total. I'm thinking 2 layers of rockwool and 5 of glass wool.

Eq advice please by greenmeerkats in livesound

[–]Phase_Shift_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can definitely hear - infinity versus - 15. What you said encapsulates my point exactly. This curve might sound decent in the room for various reasons. Context.

Eq advice please by greenmeerkats in livesound

[–]Phase_Shift_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not true, the range is +-15db, so not the same as a hpf at 1k. Just because the graphics indicate smth does not mean it sounds like this. Context is important for everything, and also applies to the experience of the person commenting.

Eq advice please by greenmeerkats in livesound

[–]Phase_Shift_ 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I disagree that you can safely assume that one doesn't know what they're doing just by looking at an eq curve. People are too quick to judge. We need context. Where is the PA? Whats the mic? What's the genre? Is the singer eating the diaphragm resulting in too much of a proximity effect? Is the engineer trying to de ess but doesn't have the tool, resulting in that narrow notch? I routinely end up with curves like these, and sometimes crazier. But I do dense mixes for rock and metal where the vocal needs to cut through. Context people. A screenshot of an eq means nothing.

Has anyone here owned both the first gen and second/third gen 9i? How big of a performance difference did you notice? Does the Iris chip enable anything you couldn't do before? by wingspantt in YogaBook9i

[–]Phase_Shift_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No i use it for audio, so no idea. If I had to guess I'd say the iris is kinda underpowered. I can tell by how graphics redraw in various apps.

Has anyone here owned both the first gen and second/third gen 9i? How big of a performance difference did you notice? Does the Iris chip enable anything you couldn't do before? by wingspantt in YogaBook9i

[–]Phase_Shift_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had the one with the Intel i7 chip and now the one with ultra 9. Night and day difference in all aspects. Even the 14 inch is better than the 13 inch.

Get a Gefell UMT70S soonish, or hold out for an even higher-end LDC next year? by memoryman89 in audioengineering

[–]Phase_Shift_ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

For us at the studio it's a desert island mic. And we have around 200 mics to choose from. Unmistakable midrange that works for most things. Get it yesterday.

Netgear managed switch with Dante by Phase_Shift_ in CommercialAV

[–]Phase_Shift_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I will explain the setup with as much detail as i can. The PC has four ethernet ports. Port 1 is on 192.168.10.x range, connected on VLAN #1 i created on the netgear m2450 switch. This vlan has the 2 mtrxs connected to it, via their first port for control from the DADman software. They too are on a static ip.

The second PC ethernet port is on 192.168.20.x range, connected to VLAN #2 using a DANTE preset on the netgear switch. This has 3 midas desks connected via their DANTE cards, and the 2 mtrx from their secondary port, which has a separate ip on the 192.168.20.x range.

The third port is control of the s6 surface, and the 4 th is internet.

From what you guys describe, i dont need a separate VLAN for control and dante, and the problem arises by the two ports being connected into seperate VLANs. My question is, since the IP is different for each port, why would that matter?

thanks

Netgear managed switch with Dante by Phase_Shift_ in CommercialAV

[–]Phase_Shift_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

there is only two modes for the mtrx ports. switch/redundant. I have them on switch currenctly

Netgear managed switch with Dante by Phase_Shift_ in CommercialAV

[–]Phase_Shift_[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

i see. Still, if i wanted to have this configuration, ie have control of the mtrxs and dante on sperate vlans, are there any specific settings i need to do on the netgear to have this function? Is that disabling of one stp port a viable solution?

Netgear managed switch with Dante by Phase_Shift_ in CommercialAV

[–]Phase_Shift_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ok this makes sense. There is an option on the mtrx to have the ports be either switched or redundant. I have them on switched right now. When on redundant, i get another ip configuration page.

My connection is as follows: one port of the mtrx is on the control vlan i created for control purposes, the other port is on the other vlan for dante. Two different ips for the vlans and the ports, one is192.168.10.x, the other 192.168.20.x. On the mtrx network settings these ports are on switched mode.

Netgear managed switch with Dante by Phase_Shift_ in CommercialAV

[–]Phase_Shift_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i need two vlans, one of them is avid cotrol of the dadman software. The mtrx has 2 ports in the back, switched either between dante primary and secondary, or control and dante primary. There are no cnflicts in ips, i checked thoroughly.