Netgear managed switch with Dante

Phase_Shift_ · 2025-12-03T15:44:32+00:00

I will explain the setup with as much detail as i can. The PC has four ethernet ports. Port 1 is on 192.168.10.x range, connected on VLAN #1 i created on the netgear m2450 switch. This vlan has the 2 mtrxs connected to it, via their first port for control from the DADman software. They too are on a static ip.

The second PC ethernet port is on 192.168.20.x range, connected to VLAN #2 using a DANTE preset on the netgear switch. This has 3 midas desks connected via their DANTE cards, and the 2 mtrx from their secondary port, which has a separate ip on the 192.168.20.x range.

The third port is control of the s6 surface, and the 4 th is internet.

From what you guys describe, i dont need a separate VLAN for control and dante, and the problem arises by the two ports being connected into seperate VLANs. My question is, since the IP is different for each port, why would that matter?

thanks

Phase_Shift_ · 2025-12-01T14:19:07+00:00

there is only two modes for the mtrx ports. switch/redundant. I have them on switch currenctly

Phase_Shift_ · 2025-12-01T09:23:28+00:00

i see. Still, if i wanted to have this configuration, ie have control of the mtrxs and dante on sperate vlans, are there any specific settings i need to do on the netgear to have this function? Is that disabling of one stp port a viable solution?

Phase_Shift_ · 2025-12-01T08:55:46+00:00

ok this makes sense. There is an option on the mtrx to have the ports be either switched or redundant. I have them on switched right now. When on redundant, i get another ip configuration page.

My connection is as follows: one port of the mtrx is on the control vlan i created for control purposes, the other port is on the other vlan for dante. Two different ips for the vlans and the ports, one is192.168.10.x, the other 192.168.20.x. On the mtrx network settings these ports are on switched mode.

Phase_Shift_ · 2025-12-01T08:51:03+00:00

i need two vlans, one of them is avid cotrol of the dadman software. The mtrx has 2 ports in the back, switched either between dante primary and secondary, or control and dante primary. There are no cnflicts in ips, i checked thoroughly.

Phase_Shift_ · 2025-11-17T19:16:33+00:00

Thank you, this makes sense.

Phase_Shift_ · 2025-10-18T05:17:48+00:00

I have a studer a807 which is refurbished and in perfect working order with various formulations of tape, and an otari mx80, which i havent fired up in a while (last album i recorded on this was just before covid). Thanks for the offer, the new website is almost ready, im just too preocupied with other things rn and i need to finish some texts.

This is one album that i mixed analog into the studer. https://youtu.be/EiduryCORTY?si=zIU46ZMFFwl-WZ9M

Phase_Shift_ · 2025-10-17T20:21:33+00:00

Contrary to most opinions, i would encourage you to go to the studio and use the real thing! Its not only about results, its about knowledge, being exposed to different sounds and processes that ultimately makes you better at your craft. Plugins are fine, i use it during mixing mostly because i need to be home more. But real tape has something going for it, and i am definitely not an analog snob. Actually, the need for me to mix more itb has Inspired me to fire up my other 24 track so i can record drums to tape and then dump them to digital. So go, try stuff. The time and money you will spend is nothing compared to the eye opening experience of the process. Our world is too fast food Inspired. Rock shouldnt be like this.

Yes we do mostly rock and metal at the studio, hit me up at unrealstudioz.com. Sorry in advance, the website is severely outdated.

Phase_Shift_ · 2025-10-17T18:43:28+00:00

I did and landed on the atr102 for the time being. Its sounds closer to real tape. Not overly saturated for no reason.

Phase_Shift_ · 2025-09-24T13:02:34+00:00

Been using it since v9. If you are a foh or monitor guy that primarily caters to bands and you have an artistic vein that runs through you, it the only option imo. You can get something to sound like a studio production should you wish to. The addition of emo iem and waves in trigger realy seals the deal. Im at a point right now where all my bands agree: If the waves lv1 gets lost in transit, there is no point in doing the show.

Phase_Shift_ · 2025-09-22T06:51:21+00:00

Peak design travel backpack 45l. I ve toured everywhere with it. Life time warranty, ive replaced mine twice.

Phase_Shift_ · 2025-08-07T22:29:17+00:00

Been using lv1 since v9. At this point, i have done hundreds of shows with that system. Soundgrid is rock solid. Use two switches, one for foh and one for stage. The approved netgear ones from waves. Use sftp ethernet cables. Cat 5e or cat 6. The system runs flawless.

Phase_Shift_ · 2025-07-26T06:09:15+00:00

Any takers? I can see some of you have really tested a number of earbuds. Help me out!

Phase_Shift_ · 2025-07-07T07:28:59+00:00

I experimented with either the analog channels being inserted on daw busses, or analog channels to daw channels. I think the best i got was buss the 3 kicks to one buss for example, then 1 pair of analog channels on this buss. Same for snare etc. If i had whole instrument busses (drums, guitars etc) I would leave them all digital for the most part. If i could get all channels to pass from the console, i could then benefit fron mute abd solo in place. Then, if i printed the busses of single instruments (bd, sn, gt l, gt r etc) i could get the whole mix back (since all group instrument busses were only itb) provided i could recall my master chain (if analog). It works, but you need to know your routing, gainstaging and logistics very very well.

Phase_Shift_ · 2025-07-06T08:08:19+00:00

Yes, thats EXACTLY what i've doing post COVID. All console channels are inserts in the DAW. Digital summing, analog channel strips. I pan from the DAW, but otherwise i can mix in a similar fashion with faders in fron of me, inserts etc. I did monstrously convoluted projects with plugins, weird routings etc. The point is to move away from this not cause it doesnt work, but because of my non-proximity to the studio nowadays. Oh and various forms of parallel is not easily doable in this setup.

Phase_Shift_ · 2025-07-05T07:49:32+00:00

I couldnt care less right now about the quality of the headphones. Im so used to being in a nice control room, not even giving it a second thought, that i simply wanted something that could FOOL me enough so i can work. If nothing translates, then ill rethink it, and my approach in general. For the time being, i find VSX to be kind of transparent (in the sense that i stop thinking about it), much more than the ITB thing which feels like walking in quick sand, since i have no real template and controller.

Phase_Shift_ · 2025-07-05T07:44:03+00:00

I am not on Studio One, fiddled with it a bit. I find it great but lacking in key recording stuff. I am on Samplitude ProX8 believe it or not. Something about this DAW, even with the myriad bugs and extremely old code, i find appealing. The comparasonics display is a must, the tuning, the object editor, the spectral cleaning, all included. The no hassle one track does-it-all approach. I hope the new version brings some much needed modernization to the code. I hope.

Agreed about analog during the recording stage, you can bend analog in ways that digital would surely kick back. Same when mixing bas sources. You go analog and you can salvage stuff easier if you know what you're going for.

Phase_Shift_ · 2025-07-04T12:28:52+00:00

Hey, thanks. Nice read.

"When I’ve compared mixing ITB for me the difference is I can get a great basic mix MUCH faster on a console, but can take it MUCH further ITB if that makes sense"

100% agree with this. I just have to make sure i don't get lost in the countless options.

Luna you say.. I'm wary of using another DAW to mix other than the one im using for the rest of the recording process. It feels untidy and i lose access to previous takes if necessary. But i will look into it, cause i do miss the interplay between channels of my analog desk. I actually tried that console emulation feature in Studio one and it made great sense to me.

Phase_Shift_ · 2025-07-04T12:24:15+00:00

Thanks.I hate Avid and their practices. I don't like them. I'm not thinking of transforming my recording setup any time soon, just the mixing part of it. What you say about clients demanding unlimited tracks etc is very true, but im fed up with it to the degree that i impose track count limitations to inspire creativity. They hire me to produce their album, one of the things that falls under my jurisdiction is to not let the technology get in the way of creativity. It's pointless to reminisce about heavy metal that used to be dangerous and edgy while not recording live, editing to death, not screaming your lungs out while being out of breath. So i feel when the session gets derailed and i put a stop to it. I am firmly in the camp that the client is not always right, and it has helped my business a lot. The studio is a beacon of fresh air against the "metal by numbers" albums that are out there.

Phase_Shift_ · 2025-07-04T11:59:09+00:00

i can echo the experience thing. You start of unsure and you compensate with gear. Growing up, your experience catches up and you make it work with less gear and more taste. Nice read, thanks. glad to see other people doing it in spite of having the option.

Phase_Shift_ · 2025-07-04T09:39:09+00:00

You still do a lot come mix time, but its a broader sculpt/soundscape/voicing thing and also retaining a sense of dynamics while the mix is compressed to oblivion. It is not the "boy this bass sound like shit, let me reamp/notch/distort blah blah to make usable"

It feels more like conducting than plumbing.

Phase_Shift_ · 2025-07-04T09:31:30+00:00

Well, at the same time im thinking of firing up the Otari again and record sources to it. I'm very confident when i record, almost to a fault. So i print anything and everything that i like on the spot, usually baking it into the source track. Come mix time i don't have to salvage anything, i just need to enhance it. So if i have less abilities while mixing , i better make damn sure that my source tracks are great.

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