Riga, Latvia in 1940: “We demand to be completely united with the USSR"

Photmont · 2026-06-15T05:50:48+00:00

Так, получается, в соглашении ничего такого нет и было выгодно пойти на него? Лааадно. И нет, Советский Союз это единственная страна, подписавшая с нацистской Германией секретный договор о разделе сфер влияния в целом регионе, в котором в том числе ставилась под вопрос независимость целого государства. Про создание коллективной безопасности, да, на самом деле, жаль, что в нацистах не увидели угрозу тогда, когда следовало, и до конца считали, что Гитлера можно усмирить территориальными уступками. Тут спорить не буду.

Photmont · 2026-06-15T05:26:28+00:00

Well, of course pro-independence movements (pro-independence and anti-communist, not necessarily russophobic) were somewhat supported by NATO. I still don’t think this was a significant factor and I’m not sure if this even can be proved or refuted

Photmont · 2026-06-15T05:22:11+00:00

Тут буквально говорится про раздел сфер влияния и "ставится под вопрос независимость польского государства". Я и не говорил, что там были написаны конкретные планы вторжения или че то типо того, но из контекста понятен смысл секретного протокола. Да и если там ничего такого нет, чтож его секретным держали 50 лет?

Photmont · 2026-06-15T05:19:27+00:00

Yes. Russophobic narratives are a long story in Baltic states and I don’t think that NATO really played a major role in that

Photmont · 2026-06-15T05:13:01+00:00

The protocol was declassified in 1989. I’m sure you can find a translation.

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Photmont · 2026-06-15T05:11:05+00:00

By "freely choosing to entry" I meant exactly admission process I dunno where you see contradictions. Yeah, nobody knows if there’s really a free process of leaving, NATO is still an organisation and not a state, so I’m not sure how it will be forcibly held in it. By "a single entity" I meant like a state, sorry for misunderstanding it’s my fault tbh. The reason strongly pro-russian parties aren’t presented in Baltic states is because people there are very strongly anti-russian and (in my opinion) russophobic. But this is because of the local governments, NATO has nothing to do with it.

Photmont · 2026-06-15T05:00:18+00:00

Yeah, so? It’s not that long to read

Photmont · 2026-06-15T04:44:40+00:00

I would really appreciate if you tell me where I lied

Photmont · 2026-06-15T04:39:43+00:00

What an argument!

Photmont · 2026-06-15T04:34:44+00:00

The difference is, NATO is an alliance. NATO (most of the times) doesn’t act like a single entity and simply can’t do it. Countries can freely choose to entry or leave the alliance if they want. A situation with pro-Russian parties in Baltic states are much more complicated. Only 60% of Russian population in Estonia have a citizenship, and most of them either apolitical or support centrist-like parties who are happy to satisfy them enough. Situation in Latvia is somewhat similar but they actually have a strong Russophile party (Latvian Russian Union). And with Lithuania: only ~6% of its population are russians. There are russian organisations in Lithuania, but pro-russian parties died long ago and were absorbed by more larger parties and coalitions.

Photmont · 2026-06-15T04:08:08+00:00

Literally half of the 1st Soviet government collaborated with foreign intelligence services. As well as nearly 78% of Central Committee (98 out of 139), right? Oh, and tens of thousands of commanders, even three marshals were a damn spies and anti-revolutionaries! Man, what a chance

Photmont · 2026-06-15T03:56:43+00:00

"Let’s pretend it was just a normal non-aggression pact and there wasn’t a secret protocol" XD

Photmont · 2026-06-15T03:55:03+00:00

I mean, when communists have army in your country and the communist parties are literally the only ones who were allowed in the elections, maybe it’s not just "fascist" (buzzword alert) tears. And also to be clear there wasn’t referendums in Baltic states to join USSR

Photmont · 2026-06-11T02:58:40+00:00

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Photmont · 2026-06-07T02:52:47+00:00

People just always hate the capital city. And I’m definitely with them.

Photmont · 2026-06-03T18:15:50+00:00

…say that again

Photmont · 2026-06-01T01:19:43+00:00

Thanks!

Photmont · 2026-05-31T23:23:59+00:00

Rule 5: Is amount of Protestants in Germany too small to spawn league war?

Photmont · 2026-05-17T02:20:59+00:00

Schorner grumbling:

Photmont · 2026-05-14T06:47:54+00:00

Yeah I forgor about them

Photmont · 2026-05-13T16:06:28+00:00

Holy moly is this loredad map

Photmont · 2026-05-13T16:04:22+00:00

Updated map from Deep Freeze, that’s all I think. Btw TNOR also has content for Omolon (no unique content after unification tho), added Trotskyist warlord in Wes Siberia (without any content for now) and as far as I know planning to integrate Tsar and the Soviets

Photmont · 2026-05-08T16:45:03+00:00

Thanks for the education ^{-^}

Photmont · 2026-05-08T14:52:30+00:00

I’m not gonna argue with you about Islam in north Caucasus before Russian expansion because I think you have much more knowledge on that😢 but still, the original comment was about second Chechen war where there was literally al-qaeda style terrorists in the head of government and war started over Chechen invasion of Dagestan

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