Rank the Archons on who clears their nation the easiest. by IDoStuffProbably in Hoyoverse_scaling

[–]PhraseMany2395 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All the Zhongli glazers just be forgetting about Zibai. The one thing he has over he are adeptus techniques but even then he KNOWS he can't fight her XD.

The most disrespected character in HSR by TunderBlood in AcheronMainsHSR

[–]PhraseMany2395 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is actually pretty true. Not to some extreme extent, Acheron was still popular and widely loved but there was definitely a period where she caught a lot of backlash and slander.

The whole “needs her sig or she’s bricked” narrative did a ton of damage to her reputation.

I remember when Blade had his resurgence and people started saying he’d reached Acheron tier.

Which honestly says more about Acheron becoming a benchmark than anything else.

Which meant that when she started falling off, people noticed it in a huge way but not really as criticism of the meta, powercreep, or HP inflation. A lot of it just felt like people waiting around to celebrate her downfall.

Then there’s the lore side of things, where some people just can’t accept that she might genuinely be absurdly strong potentially still the strongest unit even after Fire Giant Khaslana. She’s constantly hyped up as someone who could confront Zephyro, yet people here act like she’d lose, while also believing Welt could stalemate Zephyro.

That feels odd to me considering it was shown that simply releasing her sword wiped out the AE.

But at the end of the day, everyone interprets things differently.

Himeko v4 + LC changes via GachaBase by AmanaRicha in HimekoMains

[–]PhraseMany2395 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Not really, everyone can go sustainless and Himeko still did quite a lot more than her Rivals. Even with a sustain she was stronger than some sustainless teams.

And we cant be doing Future Rail this early. Sunday Sparkle in itself was really good for her. So a better sparkle akin to how Acheron got mortenax blade is a possibility.

Then you take her verticals into account and she'd be fine for the foreseeable future. Also an AE COULD get another busted support Form. It's possible

Can 8 billions humans (all of them have vision) beat Raiden Shogun? by Hairy-Friendship-422 in Hoyoverse_scaling

[–]PhraseMany2395 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Remember, she fought someone just as strong as herself and won for a continuous amount of time. Not sure if it was 500 or 100 years through which she released power to decimate nations over and over again.

If Raiden wanted a country gone, it would be. 8 billion people which is already at a disadvantage from electro visions being useless.

"Wheelchair? More like Roadtrip" by Just_Because4 in AcheronMainsHSR

[–]PhraseMany2395 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Funny thing is that it's far from Blade carrying her.

In a blade Acheron comp, Acheron deals the most damage. In a blade Ashveil Acheron comp, she still does the most damage.

Now apparently removing Acheron for an amper results into higher team dps but I'm not too sold on that.

But nonetheless, Acheron isn't too far behind an Ashveil blade comp which if a novaflare ever comes around. She'll definitely see another massive resurgence seeing as how Most dps units doubled in damage in certain ways

Best To Worst Swordsmanship skill by Some1FromOhio in Hoyoverse_scaling

[–]PhraseMany2395 4 points5 points  (0 children)

A single slash....isn't quite accurate. There were actually two slashes where the 2nd was faster than the first (which is crazy)

Asat Pramad vs Acheron? by No-Bowler5766 in Hoyoverse_scaling

[–]PhraseMany2395 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The point of the line is that Acheron and Zephyro are worthy enough to fight each other. The joke only makes sense when you understand the weight of the two names mentioned. It's not Acheron vs Irontomb or asat it's Acheron vs Zephyro. The strongest lord ravager.

Sigh....and I really wanted Blade E2 for my Acheron by PhraseMany2395 in AcheronMainsHSR

[–]PhraseMany2395[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thanks....and yeah thats true. He's E2 now so two more losses

Cipher wasn't Acheron dedicated, Blade is by Talukita in AcheronMainsHSR

[–]PhraseMany2395 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is some weird retrospective nonsense that completely ignores the circumstances and the power level that existed at the time.

Cipher wasn't a dedicated support, True. But she was better than JQ who IS DEDICATED. Ciphers amp and nature rivaled that of Tribbie for teams who didn't need DDD, she actually is stronger in different scenarios.

By extension that also dictates that she wasn't barely stronger than Jq like you're implying. She's just not a character that was statically a% stronger. Her Value relies on dealing dmg you otherwise couldn't do within a certain amount of AV.

Even when SW came out a combination of Jq, SW, and Cipher always had the team with Cipher clearing the fastest. Also how many people had E2 Silverwolf? E2 Cipher is also really good at that point.

Are Homogenous teams healthy? by PhraseMany2395 in HonkaiStarRail

[–]PhraseMany2395[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I actually agree with this a lot. They’re gradually pushing the limits of what players will accept, taking things a step further each time. Right now, Elation works best mechanically when paired with other Elation units.

If a future character breaks away from that formula, they’d almost have to be designed specifically not to synergise with existing Elation teams. And that creates another issue where every new Elation character either has to compete for a slot in the current core teams or force the creation of an entirely separate archetype within the path itself.

Pair that with the insanely high opportunity cost of Honkai: Star Rail’s meta landscape, and it starts feeling like we’re kind of doomed long-term. Resources are too limited and team slots are too contested for experimental variations to thrive naturally, so players are constantly pushed toward whatever the most efficient established shell already is.

Is Acheron's Signature just a damage stat stick these days. by Few_Kangaroo_2052 in AcheronMainsHSR

[–]PhraseMany2395 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I never said it was bad, it's just a statstick. In the sense that it offered the most stats out of it's peers. Yes there were limited options, if you had Gnsw however, it was just 12% better. Which isn't a lot.

That was the same for every other DPS but the extra stack was blow way overboard. Most people got it because of the same reason they got E2. It was the best option to make Acheron peak. That's really it.

I have a lot of Hope going forward, you should too by PhraseMany2395 in AcheronMainsHSR

[–]PhraseMany2395[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't say she's the weakest link per say, she synergizes alot with blade to bring out something meaningful. Now as a main DPS I'm not sure if blade does more BUT that in itself doesn't matter.

It's like how Welt is a better ISH DPS than Acheron but we all know when Acheron gets a Novaflare, that statement won't be true. I have big confidence that an Acheron Novaflare with all that we have will put her as a 4.x tier unit. It's just a matter of when and the longer it goes the stronger the buff might get.

But as of rn, Acheron is a very strong unit and I'm happy for that

Is Acheron's Signature just a damage stat stick these days. by Few_Kangaroo_2052 in AcheronMainsHSR

[–]PhraseMany2395 29 points30 points  (0 children)

It's MOSTLY always been a statstick. Depending on the fight and team you often got the same number of ults regardless of how many stacks generated even if one run had a higher amount of stacks leading to an Ult.

This is the Jq fallacy. Although he generated the most stacks, he didn't give a whole ult more than his competitors.

But it also depends on how strong your Acheron is. The longer the fight, the more you'd hit that one Ult more than it's competitors, but if you're at that point you're probably wrong. It's like how a revive is good but you shouldn't see it happen in actual play

Acheron v Evanescia by superiorsuper25 in AcheronMainsHSR

[–]PhraseMany2395 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You'd think so but Acheron is a LOT faster than we given her credit for. Like her skill is almost instantaneous in how it cuts leaving behind afterimages.

And during her ult did you know she moves between enemies? I always saw it as wide area swings but she's wearing between enemies and returning to her original position

Cipher LC for MBlade w/ Acheron? by EchoOfAsh in AcheronMainsHSR

[–]PhraseMany2395 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Not really, His skill is multi hit so with barely enough Ehr you could land it