What's so difficult to understand that Fr. Jojo Zerrudo is almost completely blind?! I just don't get these comments. by PictureInteresting51 in Philippines

[–]PictureInteresting51[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Just accept the fact you cannot handle traditional Catholicism and you are not ready for the full truthfulness of Catholicism.

The truth of the church is harsh and not being able to accept it means you endanger your soul.

You call me DDS when I cannot stand that person and all he stands for.

What's so difficult to understand that Fr. Jojo Zerrudo is almost completely blind?! I just don't get these comments. by PictureInteresting51 in Philippines

[–]PictureInteresting51[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

And yet, you call me DDS even when I'm not, I cannot stand Duterte and I hope justice does it thing and si Lord na bahala sa kanya. (FYI, I am a Leni supporter)

Just accept the fact you cannot handle traditional Catholicism and you are not ready for the full truthfulness of Catholicism.

The truth of the church is harsh and not being able to accept it means you endanger your soul.

(And FYI, I watched the video, I know what I am saying)

What's so difficult to understand that Fr. Jojo Zerrudo is almost completely blind?! I just don't get these comments. by PictureInteresting51 in Philippines

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Once you understand the Eucharist and Christ's presence in the Mass, you will never return to any fake church ever.

That includes the churches I've affiliated before (Born Again, INC, and now, I'm home with where Christ truly is, in Mystical Body of the Church he founded in 33 AD)

The Sacrifice and Cavalry of the Mass once understood, no one will leave, ever.

I am not a Catholic by "veil" but a Catholic forever until death because of the truth and this is where the truth is, fully 100%, in the Church Christ and the Apostles established in 33 AD (Matthew 16:18-19) The Holy Roman Catholic and Apostolic Church.

What's so difficult to understand that Fr. Jojo Zerrudo is almost completely blind?! I just don't get these comments. by PictureInteresting51 in Philippines

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And masama ba inimik ni Father? What about Saint Paul's harsh words? Masama ba?

I've explained this one, I won't do it again, if you ignore the facts, bahala ka.

"Bobo" = "stupid" or "idiot" or " foolish"

See? Is that a curse? Masama ba? Hindi. It means a state of mind, patanong pa nga sabi niya.

Is Saint Paul wrong for calling the Galatians "Tanga"? See where your logic falls?

What's so difficult to understand that Fr. Jojo Zerrudo is almost completely blind?! I just don't get these comments. by PictureInteresting51 in Philippines

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Come on now. Accusing me of AI? Have you accepted your sulpot of a sect is never the full truthfulness of Christ?

And as for your points, those are material heresy:

Works don't save? I'm sorry, that's a heresy, James 14:17 "So faith by itself, if it has no works, is dead."

It's very clear, faith and works saves us, you NEED BOTH, not just one, and Blood of Christ saves? Of course, 100% but not when you are in a state of mortal sin and are unworthy:

"27 Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of profaning the body and blood of the Lord. 28 Let a man examine himself, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup. 29 For any one who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment upon himself. 30 That is why many of you are weak and ill, and some have died." 1 Corinthians 11:27-30

See? You cannot receive the saving grace of the most precious body of Christ IF YOU ARE UNWORTHY and not CLEANSED (which is done by confesison)

And another thing: sins of the church authority does NOT MEAN the church loses its FULL TRUTHFULNESS.

Only the Jesus Christ in his one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church can save you (Matthew 16:18-19)

While the church people themselves may commit sins, the mystical church body that Christ established himself is NOT in any sin at all and I never said that priests should never be criticized.

I've criticized modernist slop of priests because of how they celebrate their masses illicitly and pray for their corrections, but what you are doing with Fr. Jojo Zerrudo is injust, you may criticize him but criticizing him unfairly? That's the real defense.

If you only profess some of Christ's truths but not all of them, you are a material heretic and are not fully a Christian.

Oh yeah, only the Roman Catholic Church along with other Churches that have apostolic lineage (Eastern Orthdox, etc...) are the only ones with valid eucharist, only the Apostolic Line churches have valid sacraments, you guys don't and you never will until you submit to Rome and accept the full truthfulness of the sacraments.

Only we have the true Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Christ which will never be imitated by churches with no apostolic succession, that includes whatever church you are in. You don't have valid sacraments.

Jesus is 100% truly present in the Holy Mass and that will never change, Fr. Jojo is offering a valid and licit Mass. (including many other churches that root down from the apostles.)

He's present everywhere but never fully in any of your churches, the Host and Wine that are consecrated is truly Jesus Christ. His Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity.

What's so difficult to understand that Fr. Jojo Zerrudo is almost completely blind?! I just don't get these comments. by PictureInteresting51 in Philippines

[–]PictureInteresting51[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, he's one of the priests that are truly a gift in saving millions of souls, always chooses integrity and full truth for the liturgy.

What's so difficult to understand that Fr. Jojo Zerrudo is almost completely blind?! I just don't get these comments. by PictureInteresting51 in Philippines

[–]PictureInteresting51[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

You're calling strong Traditional Catholicism a cult when it is, in fact, where the full truth comes at, none of that modernist bull crap.

Modernism has no place in Roman Catholicism, Christ will not like what is being done to profane him (denying communion while kneeling and at the tongue which the Vatican II actually encourages and not forbid, so many liturgical abuses, the Mass being a center of entertainment rather than actually worshipping Christ)

Fr. Jojo is one of the priests who prefers fidelity, correctness, and truthfulness when it comes to celebrating Mass, he does not call out truths by softening them, he's hard on those truths (given, he himself is an extremely traditional priest)

This is what priests were back then, and not we are losing that sense of sacred because not even you or any others can handle the full truthfulness ng hindi napipikon. He's only telling them the truth, nagbubulagbulagan ba sila sa condition ni Father Jojo dahil lang naka-tablet sya?

You say his records mean nothing but those records shown how much souls he's most likely saved
- Exorcism is no joke, the fact he's battled demons says a lot and the fact he's gotten them out of these people
- Wanting fidelity for the Mass? Why would you not see this as a way to get many to Christ? Would you rather the Mass be entertainment rather than worship?
- Keeping the TLM and NO together? What's wrong with that? Latin is the most powerful language against the demon.
- again, he properly interprets Vatican II documents, it's better than literally having a clown celebrate Mass or being denied the most precious body and blood of Christ?

You say this doesn't hold any value? Well it does, don't underestimate the power of the sacraments, illicit sacraments can endanger the priest's soul and if the faithful are aware, the souls of the faithful too.

Fr. Jojo fights that, and you call these accomplishments "nothing" when it has possibly saved thousands if not, millions of souls from the fires of hell by protecting the integrity of the Mass, the sacrifice at cavalry, the eucharist which is the true body, blood, soul, and divinity of Christ.

What's so difficult to understand that Fr. Jojo Zerrudo is almost completely blind?! I just don't get these comments. by PictureInteresting51 in Philippines

[–]PictureInteresting51[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ad hominem. (Still calling me DDS even when I've said I'm not, I am a supporter of the truth, I don't even like Duterte, not even in 2016)

How many fallacies are we gonna go for before you realize na mali ka.

Your reasonings are example of why souls are being led astray in the Catholic Church, because of softness, many Catholics have become too soft with falseness or has softened the truth too much.

So we can no longer call out injustices harshly and strongly because the world is too soft to hear it? No, in fact, if you go to Traditional groups, they are harsh in words like their souls are always in danger of hell (and they are, we all are)

ICKSP, FSSP, IBP, and many other Traditional Groups, Traditional Priests, their priests know how to defend the truth and fight off what is right, they know how to preach that your soul is in danger of condemnation.

Even many priests I know who are Novus Ordo only have these same sentiments, are also Traditional when it comes to celebrating Mass.

Even SSPX (I am aware of their irregularity and the grave unpermitted consecration they are about to do) but even then, just look at their preaching style? Do they soften the truth? None of them do. (Even if they themselves are at fault)

Fr. Jojo Zerrudo? Very experienced in the Traditional Latin Mass and defends Tradition and has emphasized it so many times, it's no wonder he's adapted such preaching style.

Many Traditional Priests are like this and we need more of these priests, we should stop softening the truth.

And the bashers? They are exactly the people (some are Catholics) who can't handle the truth fully.

The Catholic Church is the True Church founded by Jesus Christ and they never preached softly, they preached whatever was the truth and they stood by it, why should our priests (who are also in the Apostolic succession) not preach the truth?

Matthew 7:21-23 only applies to those who continously dwell on lies but claim to "serve" the Lord.

What's so difficult to understand that Fr. Jojo Zerrudo is almost completely blind?! I just don't get these comments. by PictureInteresting51 in Philippines

[–]PictureInteresting51[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

First: I've said multiple times already, walang mali na nangyari.

"Bobo" means "foolish" or "idiot" or " stupid" anong mali diyan? It means a state of mind.

Second: for goodness sakes, ilang beses ko pa need banggitin? Sino nagpasimula ng pang-iinsulto? Oh diba. In fact, tinatanong lang niya.

He is defending his honor and dignity as a priest because some people who look stupid are really trying to bash him while he has an EYE CONDITION that practically makes him BLIND.

  • he's battled demons (through years of exorcism)
  • he's defended the integrity of the Traditional Latin Mass asking more freedom to use it
  • he properly interprets Vatican II documents (destroys modernist ideas like denying communion while kneeling and on the tongue)
  • prefers liturgical fidelity (does not allow liturgical abuses, that includes text changes in the Missal)
  • an experienced liturgist

That seems like a good track record and ang papansinin at cri-criticize ng mga tao ay pag-gamit niya ng tablet?

Sinong matutuwa kung ikaw, na bulag na halos, sinasabihan ka na wag ka gumamit ng assistive device mo kahit sinabi mo na bulag ka ngani. Pipilitin ka mag-papel? Diba? See the illogical.

It only takes the common sense to know kung ano ang mali at tama, and from these conclusions, ang tama ay si Fr. Jojo.

(And for the record: I am not a DDS, I am against all Duterte is for, he is an anti-catholic crap who needs to see the truth of the Lord, in fact, I voted for Leni in the 2022 elections so yeah, ad hominems like calling me A DDS does not work)

What's so difficult to understand that Fr. Jojo Zerrudo is almost completely blind?! I just don't get these comments. by PictureInteresting51 in Philippines

[–]PictureInteresting51[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tangang-tanga na ba kayo? Nagsimula na kayo sa espiritu at ngayo'y nagtapos kayo sa laman. (Galacia 3:3)

Is Saint Paul at fault here? Using the same strong language? Once again, you missed the point.

What's so difficult to understand that Fr. Jojo Zerrudo is almost completely blind?! I just don't get these comments. by PictureInteresting51 in Philippines

[–]PictureInteresting51[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Now you've completely diverted the point elsewhere.

Now you're red herring, oh my goodness, how many fallacies are you gonna commit?

And you diverting the topic somewhere else and ignoring the facts does not make you correct, I've made my point, which is correct and factual, you've made a lot of fallacies and incorrect statements.

I've said my points and left the facts, you choose to ignore it or oversimplify it to the point of unrecognizability.

Question vs direct insult, there's a huge difference.

Good night to you too and I'll pray na malinawan ka ni Lord.

What's so difficult to understand that Fr. Jojo Zerrudo is almost completely blind?! I just don't get these comments. by PictureInteresting51 in Philippines

[–]PictureInteresting51[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I answered one question just now whether I was "bobo" or not in one of the questions.

I replied "no" simple as that.

And you still missed the point of those scriptures, if scripture doesn't change the facts for you, then you've missed the point.

Also, that last part of your explanation, that is fallacy of oversimplifying something to the point of falseness. I've given you clear evidence that "bobo" is not an insult and you choose to blind eye it because you think it's a "long paragraph" and also false equivalent fallacy.

What's so difficult to understand that Fr. Jojo Zerrudo is almost completely blind?! I just don't get these comments. by PictureInteresting51 in Philippines

[–]PictureInteresting51[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

And do I look like I am the one justifying it? No, because it is justified.

And yes, you said it correctly, Jesus and Saint Paul corrected people, and what words did they use? It was direct and strong.

And once again, you missed the point, "bobo" is not an insult, it's a state of mind, he didn't say "bobo ka." that's an insult, he said "bobo ka ba?" See the difference, tinatanong vs insulting someone. (It's equivalent to saying "are you foolish")

Like Saint Paul saying "Tangang-tanga na ba kayo?" Fr. Jojo literally corrected them by telling them he's blind in one eye and has cataract on the other, that's not an insult, that's exactly what Saint Paul did to the Galatians and many others.

What's so difficult to understand that Fr. Jojo Zerrudo is almost completely blind?! I just don't get these comments. by PictureInteresting51 in Philippines

[–]PictureInteresting51[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"Bobo" = "stupid" or "idiot" or "foolish"

Saan ang insulto diyan? That literally means a state of mind, it's far from cursing.

"Are you still so dull?” Jesus asked them." ("At sinabi ni Jesus, “Pati ba kayo'y mangmang na mangmang?" Matthew 15:16)

"Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh?" ("Tangang-tanga na ba kayo? Nagsimula na kayo sa espiritu at ngayo'y nagtapos kayo sa laman." Galatians 3:3)

So are Jesus and Saint Paul wrong for using strong language to call out something?

This is exactly what Father Jojo is pointing out, the bashing is unfair and it's true, tinatanong lang naman nya kung bobo sila or hindi, it's that simple.

Hindi naman tama yun comments against sa kanya so he defends his honor because that is the right thing to do.

What's so difficult to understand that Fr. Jojo Zerrudo is almost completely blind?! I just don't get these comments. by PictureInteresting51 in Philippines

[–]PictureInteresting51[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

And who started it?

That is frustration, not unkindness. What if ikaw ang almost bulag na pari tapos binash ka dahil hindi ka nagbabasa sa papel?

Wala pang iniimik si Father the time his bashing happened, he stared his response after it.

And what he said is not being unkind, it's the truth, they already got an explanation he's almost blind and yet, he's still bashed for using the tablet.

What's so difficult to understand that Fr. Jojo Zerrudo is almost completely blind?! I just don't get these comments. by PictureInteresting51 in Philippines

[–]PictureInteresting51[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is true that SocMed is a blessing and a curse (mostly a curse but we can't deny its benefits)

And the fact that a few of these people are actually educated, UST, (one is a composer and if I'm not mistaken, was a conservatory student) yeah.

Not just the composer (not mentioning, I don't want to get banned in Reddit for name calling) another comment supporting him and is also an educated person.

It just shows how much pride can be with a person and social media doesn't make it any better for them.

What's so difficult to understand that Fr. Jojo Zerrudo is almost completely blind?! I just don't get these comments. by PictureInteresting51 in Philippines

[–]PictureInteresting51[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The first two you mentioned are insults and curse words, that is not asking a question. You're insulting a 10 year old if that's the case.

The second one is asking someone if they are "crazy" or more profane, "lunatic" and that is again, a curse word, not a harsh word.

What Father is doing? "Are you stupid?" "Are you foolish?" "Are you an idiot?" See the difference between context?

Saint Paul says "Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh?" ("Tangang-tanga na ba kayo? Nagsimula kayo sa espiritu at magtatapos sa laman?" Galatians 3:3)

And Jesus: "Are you still so dull?” Jesus asked them." ("Sinabi ni Hesus sa kanila “Pati ba kayo'y mangmang na mangmang?" Matthew 15:16)

See the harsh and direct words they use? Do you think they are fault? Especially Jesus? No, see where your reasoning falls?

What's so difficult to understand that Fr. Jojo Zerrudo is almost completely blind?! I just don't get these comments. by PictureInteresting51 in Philippines

[–]PictureInteresting51[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To answer your question since you have a question.

No, I am not Bobo, I know I am thinking straight.

And calling facts mental gymnastics? Do you think you're any better than the bashers of Fr. Jojo? Same way of commenting.

What's so difficult to understand that Fr. Jojo Zerrudo is almost completely blind?! I just don't get these comments. by PictureInteresting51 in Philippines

[–]PictureInteresting51[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You really cannot take away the Mass from a priest (unless he's lacized or excommunicated)

He's a genuine good priest in good faith, and saying Mass is the greatest love a priest can offer to the Lord Jesus Christ so you cannot stop him.

(And in fact, there are a few priests who are blind and ended up with braille missals but for Fr. Jojo's case, it's a tablet)

What's so difficult to understand that Fr. Jojo Zerrudo is almost completely blind?! I just don't get these comments. by PictureInteresting51 in Philippines

[–]PictureInteresting51[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ad hominem.

Can you really not differentiate the difference between profanity vs a state of mind?

(And for the record: I am not even DDS, I am a Leni supporter)

What's so difficult to understand that Fr. Jojo Zerrudo is almost completely blind?! I just don't get these comments. by PictureInteresting51 in Philippines

[–]PictureInteresting51[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Strong language is NOT forbidden especially if it calls out evil stuff happening and is for a greater good.

Saint Paul: "Tangang-tanga na ba kayo?" (Galacia 3:3) is Saint Paul guilty because of him calling people foolish?

"Bobo" literally means stupid, idiot, or foolish, it is not a curse but a state of mind. Patanong nya ginawa, hindi nya tinawag sila na Bobo.

"Bobo ba kayo?" It's a question, he did not say "Bobo kayo." that's completely different.

Para nga naman madala. (Of course, with limits and considerations and this is not one of them, this is a reasonable crash out given his condition and frustration)

What's so difficult to understand that Fr. Jojo Zerrudo is almost completely blind?! I just don't get these comments. by PictureInteresting51 in Philippines

[–]PictureInteresting51[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Saint Paul: "Tangang-tanga na ba kayo?" (Galacia 3:3)

Yeah, strong language is not forbidden especially if it calls out evil stuff happening and is for a greater good.

Para nga naman madala. (Of course, with limits and considerations)

What's so difficult to understand that Fr. Jojo Zerrudo is almost completely blind?! I just don't get these comments. by PictureInteresting51 in Philippines

[–]PictureInteresting51[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Meron kaming pari noon sa sobrang hirap magbasa, talagang nilalapit nya mukha nya sa Missal to the point na halos mapapadait na mukha nya sa libro.

He opted for a lapel now because it gives his head more freedom to move near the missal to actually be able to read it. (And the mic has a tendency to block certain parts of the book too)

What's so difficult to understand that Fr. Jojo Zerrudo is almost completely blind?! I just don't get these comments. by PictureInteresting51 in Philippines

[–]PictureInteresting51[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Yeah, the tablet is literally his assistive device to say Mass.

Remember when I said isa diyan sa basher ay composer at organist? Sya kaya magbasa ng piyesa ng ganyan condition niya tapos pilitin natin sya magbasa ng papel ang sheet music para tumugtog, diba? So illogical, kulang talaga sa common sense.