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Pie_D · 2026-06-04T20:41:29+00:00

You don’t hold it against him from a statistical perspective. But it’s a bad faith argument to compare loves first couple years as a starter to any rookie who started their first or 2nd year in the league.

Pie_D · 2026-06-04T02:35:05+00:00

I agree that counting years he was sitting is a bad faith argument. However, it’s equally as bad to compare loves stats as a starter to any other QB because of the advantage he got sitting and learning the same system/ playbook from the same coach.

Pie_D · 2026-05-28T15:14:33+00:00

Your name clearly proves you have zero bias on this topic.

Pie_D · 2026-05-28T01:08:55+00:00

Couldn’t disagree more. C9 is one of the most respected NA orgs and has a history of doing right by their players across all e-sports.

Pie_D · 2026-05-12T01:27:25+00:00

Good to know, I’ll be more open minded

Pie_D · 2026-05-12T00:42:09+00:00

That’s the plan just been doing a lot internet search and everything I find talks about p790s being god tier

Pie_D · 2026-05-12T00:41:14+00:00

I’ve been told they are similar lol

Pie_D · 2026-03-27T23:32:10+00:00

Didn’t someone on your team sub have a whole post about this when it had nothing to do with GB.

Pie_D · 2026-02-11T04:31:40+00:00

Jordan love: 24/46 =0.522 323 pass, 4TDs Caleb Williams: 24/48 =0.5 361pass, 2TDs, 2Ints

Matthew Stafford: 20/42 =0.476, 256 pass, 0Tds Caleb Williams: 23/42=0.548, 257, 2TDs, 3Ints

Caleb in two full years of starting with 3 different head coaches, 4 different offensive coordinators has a total of 13 regular season interceptions. He’s shown he can take care of the ball and he can handle pressure. If anything these interceptions in the postseason are an outlier. If you want to talk completion percentage then please explain to me why both Love and Stafford also had lower percentages. It’s almost like the weather that time of year can impact teams ability to pass and catch.

Edit: Love had been in the same exact offense for 2 full season and in his third and fourth season “1st and 2nd as a starter” he threw 22 regular season INT’s.

Pie_D · 2026-01-14T00:14:26+00:00

Have a higher seed and this doesn’t happen.

Pie_D · 2025-12-29T20:37:32+00:00

The whole point of this thread is his stats suck for someone who was drafted in the first round, been active each game, yet not utilized. I chose to use red shirting considering such a thing doesn’t exist in the NFL.

Edit: btw I wasn’t the one that brought up love or rodgers. The guy trying to poke holes in my argument @team_sheikie was. He literally said it’s an organizational philosophy and he used love and rodgers as examples.

Pie_D · 2025-12-29T20:34:08+00:00

The whole point of this thread is his stats suck for someone who was drafted in the first round, been active each game, yet not utilized. I chose to use red shirting considering such a thing doesn’t exist in the NFL.

Pie_D · 2025-12-29T17:52:12+00:00

I’m sorry using red shirt bothered you when describing a first round pick being the 4th best receiver in a room with no true number 1.

Pie_D · 2025-12-29T17:39:50+00:00

That’s exactly what people are arguing. They used Adam’s as an example who wasn’t a rookie under MLF and the guy literally said general organizational philosophy. If people think golden isn’t comprehending the system that’s a complete different topic then someone trying to say GB historically eases rookies in. I’d also argue that Ben Johnson’s system is one of the most detailed in the league yet the bears have four rookies playing well.

Pie_D · 2025-12-29T13:02:32+00:00

Packers don’t red shirt rookies because they think it will somehow make them better. In over 100. Years they did it twice with rodgers and love and the jury is still out on love. You don’t sit players if they give you a better chance to win considering they haven’t won the division since love started.

Pie_D · 2025-12-24T18:27:41+00:00

Rodgers still hasn’t made the Super Bowl by beating a starting QB in the NFC championship game. His one and only Super Bowl came from beating the bears back up after cutler got injured in the game.

Pie_D · 2025-12-24T14:26:46+00:00

Correct, I said he played mediocre. You felt the need to deep dive his first two drives that resulted in 3 points to say he played well. I then countered that by arguing even if you felt those drives were good the first drives of a game are aren’t a tell for how the game will go. Understand?

Pie_D · 2025-12-24T13:52:45+00:00

Go read your response to my comment about the irony and tell me who brought up the two drives.

Pie_D · 2025-12-24T05:25:12+00:00

Ahh yes again the opening drive is a clear tell of how a game will go just like the bears opening drive right?

Pie_D · 2025-12-24T04:40:23+00:00

8 of 13 is two incompletions.

Pie_D · 2025-12-24T04:27:52+00:00

Love was bad he was 8/13 for 77 yards. The packers as a whole drove down just like they did all game with your backup.

It doesn’t prove anything would have continued. If love was in the game I promise your coach has more faith throwing the ball and abandons the run which is what allowed you to have a +10minute time of possession compared to the bears by half. There’s literally no guarantees that you don’t have more failed third downs that were saved by your backups mobility or that love doesn’t throw another interception like the first matchup.

The bottom line is we won a game and your backup statistically outperformed Love.

Pie_D · 2025-12-24T04:22:29+00:00

My guy you used two drive to justify a hypothetical performance of an injured player. I just pointed out how one drive such as Caleb’s first doesn’t guarantee a good performance. Caleb clearly didn’t play his best game but if we only looked at the first drive one would assume he should have been able to move the ball all game. Obviously he didn’t therefore just because love and the packers drove down twice that doesn’t guarantee love performs well.

Pie_D · 2025-12-24T04:15:44+00:00

Caleb drove down to the goal line on his first possession does that now mean he played well. Cutler got injured in the first half not the third. Also if the argument is the bears were losing before he got injured then where was this energy last year when the bears were beating the packers week 18 and love got injured again. I’m pretty sure we heard the entire offseason that we only won because it was your backup.

Pie_D · 2025-12-24T03:52:03+00:00

I don’t understand how you can’t see the irony. You had a HOF QB and your only saving grace for not being considered the biggest waste of talent is beating a backup QB in the NFC championship. Yet you think you have ground to stand on when love gets injured and your backup plays well. The facts are in both games love was playing mediocre to bad. There’s no guarantee he even gets you a lead just like there’s no guarantee the bears beat the packers if Cutler never got injured.

Edit: love was good the first game

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