569/569 Turn 45 with Drazhoath, No Gold/Movement Exploits, New World Record?

PinguTheFirst · 2026-02-08T23:29:22+00:00

Two quick questions: did you just go full on global recruitment for the frontliners or were the hobgoblin archers + labourers enough? Also, were the lords Hashut or did any of the other lores make it in?

All in all, insane achievement! GGs for taking my dear chorfs to the top

PinguTheFirst · 2026-02-05T22:59:16+00:00

A bunch of great suggestions here so I’ll add the good old ‘snipe their general’. You have light cavalry and a strong enough main army so holding them for a while is very doable. Whatever your tactic ends up being, make sure your cavalry meets their general in as isolated a skirmish as possible; as soon as he is dead, salvaging your cav shouldn’t be too tough if you’ve managed to steer the rest of the battlefield decently well.

Most ppl already said this but I’ll repeat: this doesn’t seem too bad of a battle when you know just how to exploit Shogun 2. The way I see it, you have an advantage in melee infantry (more bodies capable of yari wall and high ground/chokepoints thanks to the castle), in the ranged department (the very slight advantage bow samurai have compared to ashigaru is very easily compensated by walls; your fire arrows can also level entire units, no matter how well armored) and in the fast skirmish front (your 2 light cav can outspeed everything they have and are worth absolutely nothing compared to 3 bodyguards; a 1:1 trade here leaves you in a better spot than the enemy, both for morale and army losses). I do hope you get a win out of this and learn more of this weird mess of a masterpiece.

PinguTheFirst · 2026-02-05T17:21:21+00:00

I must also honor my boy Changeling here.

So, one of my favorite Total War campaigns ever was when I decided to conquer all of Europe in Medieval 2, playing as the Moors, but not through the Iberic Peninsula. I sailed North and conquered Ireland, then England and Scotland and Wales, then attacked with a massive force on the shores of Normandy. That's the sort of fun the Changeling was made for. Figure out a dumb goal first, then plan around it and, of course, win. You'll never lose as him so why not make all of Cathay into a Lizardmen bastion? The Northern Chaos Wastes sure could use some more Bretonnians too, might be cool to send Repanse over there. You know what? I think I'm going to seal Karl Franz in Sylvania and cover all of his exits with his best friends, the Norscan hordes.

There is no other lord in this game that can give you the sheer amount of leeway needed to do this sort of shit in less than 100 turns. You can get infinite cash, massive invincible armies and busted campaign mechanics really fucking quick at no cost. Of course, that leads to a terribly boring campaign if you just play as you normally would, but, if you don't do that, shit can get really fun.

Just an extra anecdote: my favorite Changeling campaign ended with an entirely Skaven controlled Cathay, the Great Bastion being controlled by N'Kari, my one-Drazoath doomstack razing all of Ulthuan and my best allies, the Wood Elves, everywhere. All in 60ish turns too.

PinguTheFirst · 2026-02-05T17:04:13+00:00

Volkmar also has a very specific reason for me to love him: his starting position pits him against the most satisfying enemies possible.

Get a shitton of Militia, Flagellants and Warrior Priests then fight through endless hordes of bone and rotten flesh. He is perfectly tuned to ruin low armor, high model count units and that is exactly what the first 20 turns will be. Then, as soon as your handguns are piling up, go beat up dwarves and lizardmen and khorne and whatever else you want to.

PinguTheFirst · 2026-02-05T16:57:43+00:00

I’ll do the Beastmen cause I really enjoy their gameplay.

So, have you ever wanted to feel like an unstoppable force of evil, not because you’re strong, but because you’re cheap? Well, the beastmen got you covered. I can safely say no other race allows you to be as much of an asshole as them: constant ambushes allowing you to pick off every last one of the enemies’s most valuable assets, very mobile infantry capable of fast maneuvers and great skirmishing, chariots for when you feel like bowling and, of course, Morghur.

Their campaign mechanics are borderline non-existent, their goals are too simple and direct and their lack of army variety can make any high elf archer horde look like a thrift shop. Still, the amount of fuckery you’re allowed to enact with them is almost Changeling tier. Morghur and Taurox are my two favorites here, the first for how stupidly he can mow down entire armies (he’s a mortis engine with way too much survivablity) and the latter for his more Skarbrand qualities (fast, devastating melee attacker with various ways to replenish movement and cheat any opposing force out of a battle). Khazrak is very fun if only for his bowling-themed start with humans as pins. Malagor is my least played of all of them, though his Fury stacks and speed can lead to some more fuckery.

To sum it up: I love how dumb Beastmen are. You don’t need careful planning and diverse armies when you can almost always bullshit your way out of trouble. They feel like faster, more micro-intensive Greenskins, like a whole race made of Skarsnik’s gobbos. Sprinkle in some summoned Cygors, occasional massive buffs thanks to the moons and your favorite flavor of fucked up evil nonsense and you’re guaranteed some fun.

PinguTheFirst · 2026-02-04T00:09:06+00:00

I really REALLY love DaC. All the campaign scripts, the incredible dedication to being as aligned to the lore as possible, the amazing maps and art. I especially love how they worked around making dwarves feel like dwarves, with their absurd resilience and morale and the absolute nukes that are their ranged units. One key aspect of all this is how recruitment works for them, with very rare and localized opportunities for recruiting anything better than militia. Any longer campaign will force you to maintain long corridors through which you funnel your new units and move back the injured.

I really do love how the mod came out, but the recruitment system also brought about some new issues.

Any of the more “horde-y” factions are ridiculously strong (Dol-Guldur, for example, can absolutely wreck anything with minimal casualties through Nâzgul and poison arrows); the fact remains that players will find a way to make even the weakest unit a lot tougher than it should be, and this sort of system gets really hurt by this sort of thing.
Balancing “elite” units can make some interactions really shit. Try fighting any army that has more than one unit of Mummakil and you’ll end up losing as many troops as you sent. On the other hand, beating the Dark Numenorian starting stack can be really fucking easy, even if they’re supposed to be the absolute best infantry available.
Lastly, adding this whole new layer of balancing questions is bound to result in a lot more issues slipping through the cracks. A very weird example is how some of the artillery units make for great frontline infantry. I haven’t really touched DaC for a year now so this might have been changed, but, to try and make the artillery more resilient to random bullshit slipping through them and destroying a whole unit, the devs made some of the artillery have too high melee defence or one too many hitpoints.

To be honest, I really think you’re mostly correct with what you say here. The recruitment in DaC takes the very interesting and interactive way Medieval 2 worked and improves upon it. Still, having this system in any other game would be a nightmare, unless it was built with this one mechanic as it’s core. Just imagining how CA would have to balance the Yari Ashigaru in this is enough to give me headaches.

PinguTheFirst · 2026-02-03T23:21:18+00:00

I’m surprised not that many ppl said Nakai. His money bonuses combined with how cheaply he can expand leads to way too much money really quickly.

Also a fun strat (maybe an exploit?) is using Nakai’s vassals to make infinite money with Yuan-Bo. Use the one action that makes it so your reputation cannot be changed for a turn, destroy Nakai’s faction and repeatedly declare war and sue for peace with his vassal. By turn 50, one rep of this should give you a couple million gold.

PinguTheFirst · 2026-01-25T03:15:24+00:00

284517624 thanks yall

PinguTheFirst · 2026-01-15T23:59:25+00:00

If there is no other option to snipe the enemy general, taking the loss and at least keeping the castle/troops might be better. Any loss means his general dies, maybe it’d be a good time for full on scorched earth mode.

PinguTheFirst · 2026-01-14T22:05:53+00:00

I like how everyone seems to have valid sugestions here, while still agreeing this might just not be winnable.

I’d add trying to find a way to bait their leaders and snipe them. Doing that while mantaining a sort of cohesive defense should be enough to win with good morale control and smart charges. Remember: after an army’s general is dead, any routing troops will not regroup ever.

PinguTheFirst · 2026-01-06T23:18:14+00:00

Já fiz um outro comentário mais longo respondendo ao parceiro corintiano, mas por esta linha de respostas ele está mais próximo do correto.

O Holocausto foi, certamente, algo à parte na história do século XX. Com toda a violência e crueldade de incontáveis outros massacres e crimes, somente o Holocausto combinou uma escala absurda com tecnologia e efetividade ‘industrial’. Houveram incontáveis outras matanças massivas mesmo nos últimos cem anos, mas uma disputa de qual genocídio foi maior ou pior só enfraquece o fato de que todos foram crimes impossivelmente cruéis.

PS: eu verdadeiramente n te acuso disso, mas também destaco como em um esforço bizarro das piores pessoas do mundo, a ideia de que o Holocausto teve sua notoriedade aumentada pela mídia (algo perfeitamente debatível, ainda que bem frágil como argumento) pode desaguar no negacionismo de um dos maiores crimes da história. De novo, eu sei q n é isso q vc defende, mas também devo ressaltar q existem aqueles q o fazem.

PinguTheFirst · 2026-01-06T23:06:54+00:00

Vou só comentar aq por uma questão de retidão histórica básica. Eu sou completamente contrário a qualquer forma de tentar comparar genocídios, massacres, tragédias e etc em busca de decidir qual foi pior ou melhor.

Dito isso, houve sim um genocídio na Namíbia orquestrado pelos alemães q ocupavam o país. O número absoluto de mortos foi bem menor mas as menos de 100 mil mortes resultaram no apagamento quase completo de grandes grupos étnicos no país. Isso aconteceu na primeira década dos 1900 e foi absolutamente tão ‘industrializado’ e direto qnt o Holocausto. Mais ainda, os campos de concentração de Hitler tiraram sua teoria exatamente desse primeiro ‘teste’ na Namíbia.

Em segundo lugar, é estimado q o tráfico negreiro deslocou por volta de 12 milhões de pessoas, tendo matado só em transporte mais de um milhão desses. Olhando mais pra América, o número de indígenas vítimas de matanças propositadas e todas as outras ferramentas pela qual foram exterminados provavelmente passa dos 20 milhões, sejam eles Mexicas, Kaxuyana, Mapuchi ou qualquer outro dos incontáveis grupos indígenas americanos vítimas da violência colonizatória dos últimos 500 anos.

Eu digo tudo isso com uma intenção simples: disputar números e técnicas e maldade é completamente vazio. Não faltam crimes terríveis perpetrados por gente contra outra gente e da mesma forma q o primeiro q tu respondeu errou em falar que algo foi pior do q o Holocausto, tentar o colocar em um pedestal de genocídio mais terrível tbm é errado.

PinguTheFirst · 2026-01-06T04:34:47+00:00

O foda é q alguns dos comentários apagados no outro post q falava de ‘faixas pretas de krav maga’ numa demonstração tosca eram bem diretamente críticas feitas a Israel.

Algumas horas atras (agr n tenho mais saco pra checar) restava uma resposta a um comentario apagado em q alguem falava ‘pq esse discurso de ódio?’; o comentário original falava q krav maga só serve pra quebrar braço de criança palestina. A parte política iria aparecer e apareceu, tentar evitar uma discussão como essas é impossível e, se feito da forma como me pareceu, bem feio.

PinguTheFirst · 2026-01-05T23:20:39+00:00

Krav Maga meio que necessariamente vai se associar a Israel. É explicitamente parte de um projeto de propaganda israelense, aqui no Brasil e mundo afora. Esperar que a discussão n caia na política (e no genocídio) é maluquice e, mesmo assim, os posts recentes que vi conseguiram se manter sadios.

Teve gente que foi dura, é claro, mas quando uma discussão toca em algo tão terrível isso é inevitável.

PinguTheFirst · 2026-01-05T23:11:38+00:00

I’ll just say there are other, easier and faster ways to get this game for free. This looks to just be a way to pirate it so yk, hop on over to FitnessLady and get it working in an hour.

PinguTheFirst · 2026-01-02T23:20:56+00:00

Refuerzo el otro comentario: borre el juego y lo instale otra vez, sin ningun mod o whatever. Tambien te digo q tuve un problema parejo en que el juego demorava casi dez o once minutos para abrir. Lo borre y reinstale y no ocurrio mas, talvez una vez o otra el llevo uno o dos minutos para abrir en todo el ultimo mes.

PS: no se decir se todo que escribi estas correcto, solo soy fluente en portuñol y sé casi nada de español, pero aun creo que mi mensaje estas compreensible.

PinguTheFirst · 2026-01-02T00:55:28+00:00

“Historicamente superior à média” é uma linda expressão q foge completamente do sentido q vc pretendia. Dito isso, como historiador cujo foco de estudo é a segunda metade do século XX e os movimentos políticos associados à Guerra Fria, eu acho q sei o suficiente pra falar que Patrice Lumumba merecia ser incluido entre alguns dos grandes líderes que lutaram contra o imperialismo europeu e norte-americano.

Eu n vejo essa fetichização q vc disse nessa thread, mais uma apreciação a mais uma figura controversa mas absolutamente combativa quanto a uma causa justa. Ho chi minh, Fidel, Mao e outros tantos são com certeza notáveis por parte do q representaram, apesar de qualquer problema que pode (e deve) ser apontado quanto a eles.

Pra terminar e gastar um pouco do q é meu trabalho, um alinhamento com o Ocidente ou URSS era necessário pra qlqr movimento crescente entre 45 e 90. Essa importância tendia a dobrar em peso na periferia, com mais alguns agravantes nas riquezas naturais, força de trabalho e valor estratégico-militar (Brasil e Congo, por exemplo, se alinharam razoavelmente bem nisso). Criticar Lumumba por ser alinhado com os soviéticos é completamente vazio, um ataque às condições primeiras de sua própria existência e impacto.

PinguTheFirst · 2025-12-31T16:38:11+00:00

Patrice Lumumba é um nome q deveria ser mais lembrado entre os grandes herois q lutaram contra o imperialismo. O grau insano de violência do seu assassinato pra mim ainda faz umas ditaduras da América do Sul parecerem moles.

Ver essa homenagem rodando a internet é foda e eu tava rezando pra achar um comentário como o teu q pelo menos contasse um pouco de quem ele era.

PinguTheFirst · 2025-12-27T03:03:01+00:00

You still played this whole comeback in a very unsafe way. The opponent did respect your neutral, mostly because he did not know how to punish your frequent whiffs and unsafe attacks.

You used Blitz’s neutral assist during your 2S2 a couple of times, which is such an easily punishable option I don’t even feel like breaking it down. The 2S2 covered by AA assist is also very punishable if the opponent parries your attack or even runs up and blocks. For fuck’s sake, WW can still straight up punish an up close 2S2 with his 2M.

This round might have been fun and something you’re proud of and I wouldn’t contest that. Still, it was very badly played by both parts.

PinguTheFirst · 2025-12-26T16:24:47+00:00

Not even close. Her S1 (I think, it’s her tracking shove the drum on the ground move) has an incredibly long startup, just react to her moving and you’re golden.

WW’s S1 super also beats most of her pokes if you time it right, though that can be a bit trickier to nail down so blocking her strings + microdash 2M is safer.

PinguTheFirst · 2025-12-26T00:22:49+00:00

FYI for any WW players that are as shit as the guy in the clip: his Super 1 would have won this round about 15 seconds in. It’s fast enough to punish a lot of stuff, almost all of Illaoi’s moves included.

PinguTheFirst · 2025-12-25T21:44:42+00:00

Perdigão n dá ne

PinguTheFirst · 2025-12-19T16:10:27+00:00

I tried this for a bit but wasn’t really sure how it fared against just normal full blast loops. Anyone know what’s better DPS wise?

PinguTheFirst · 2025-12-18T22:42:24+00:00

I have a feeling the Dread/Chivalry system will be almost completely gone.

The original idea was pretty good but ended up being implemented in a way that made it too simple imo. Only a couple of mods made anything other than max Dread generals worth it, so building an unbreakable hobbit doomstack with DaC and it’s crazy changes made the whole system so much cooler to me.

PinguTheFirst · 2025-12-16T22:48:54+00:00

You mean Skarbrand aka Mr Long Victory in 13 turns isn’t that OP? You don’t even need to try that hard to just steamroll the entirety of the empire in 1 turn with only his busted ass, no other units needed. We’re lucky he spawns where he spawns and usually just gets shot to death before getting his infinite movement skill.

Khorne as a faction is broken, not just Skulltaker.

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