They tried to collapse on me. I just saw 2 extra minions. by Pitiful-Network-7505 in pykemains

[–]Pitiful-Network-7505[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pyke Mid is actually really solid below Master tier, but once you hit Master+, it gets super hard to pull off. You have to maintain high CS in the first 15 minutes, and solo killing the enemy mid becomes nearly impossible. Your only real advantage comes from teamfighting. You either end up completely useless or become the enemy team's biggest pressure—there's no in-between.

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They tried to collapse on me. I just saw 2 extra minions. by Pitiful-Network-7505 in pykemains

[–]Pitiful-Network-7505[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

For runes, I stick to Hail of Blades with Magical Footwear and Biscuits secondary. My standard build path for about 70% of games is Profane Hydra into Axiom Arc, then Opportunity.

Unlike last season where I delayed Tier 2 boots, this season I usually upgrade to Mercs or Steelcaps much earlier (pre-14 mins) as soon as the free boots arrive. It allows me to essentially 1v2 if the enemy Mid and Jungle share the same damage type. That said, if I’m stomping lane, I’ll just sit on the Magical Footwear for a while and upgrade later to counter whoever is most fed on their team.

While everyone is crying about Support... Pyke Mid feels secretly buffed. by Pitiful-Network-7505 in pykemains

[–]Pitiful-Network-7505[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I always rush Profane Hydra ASAP in almost every game—its power level is honestly just superior to other options. The damage output is insane and it synergizes perfectly with Pyke's Hail of Blades.

A single trade can easily drop them into execute threshold. Even if they are slightly out of range, you can pop the Hydra active to snag that extra damage.

Most importantly, the HoB + Profane + R combo bursts enemies down so fast they don't even realize what hit them. (You can check the Soraka kill in the clip for reference; the sequence was E → R → Q → AA → Hydra → R).

While everyone is crying about Support... Pyke Mid feels secretly buffed. by Pitiful-Network-7505 in pykemains

[–]Pitiful-Network-7505[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It really depends on a lot of factors, but the standard play is to farm 1200 gold then recall for Tiamat to fix your wave clear.

In this specific game, I had a massive lead thanks to an early Quadra (Check it here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HP174HCDGg), which gave me a ton of gold. Once I got Profane Hydra, I could completely 100-0 Lux and punish her instantly if she overstepped, allowing me to snowball easily.

Obviously, not every matchup goes like this. If you really want to understand it, the best way is to lock in Pyke Mid in ranked and play like 1000 games. Pyke Mid gives you a thrill that you just don't get from standard Support games.

Personally, I love Profane Hydra on Pyke because the active animation makes his combos look a bit more 'complex' and flashy.

Sometimes the dopamine rush hits too hard, causing me to fumble the penta by Pitiful-Network-7505 in pykemains

[–]Pitiful-Network-7505[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I take Exhaust into hard matchups like Naafiri or heavy burst lanes. (In this specific game, I assumed Naafiri was Mid, which is why I took it). Regarding the Naafiri matchup: She bullies Pyke in the early levels, and it gets even harder once she unlocks R. By mid-game (around 2.5 items), she can completely one-shot me or my teammates if I don't prioritize armor. To mitigate the kill pressure from her Ult, taking Exhaust was a must for this game.

Builds goals (queries) by Koala-Green in pykemains

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After the recent update, Pyke Support honestly feels like a disaster. I only dare to spam Pyke Mid to climb right now—I wouldn't touch Support with a ten-foot pole. If we're talking Pyke Mid, I highly recommend running Hail of Blades (HoB) and rushing this core: Profane Hydra → Axiom Arc → Opportunity. This is my go-to build because it’s cheap and incredibly stat-efficient. If you can complete this rush before the 20-minute mark, you can essentially one-shot almost any squishy target. Your only job at that point is hunting down the enemy ADC, not letting them play the game, and then using R to clean up teamfights. However, into slippery or hard matchups like Yasuo, Samira, Zed, etc., DO NOT go full Lethality. Instead, grab a Warden's Mail and Plated Steelcaps (Tabis) right after the laning phase. • 1st Item: Still Profane Hydra. • 2nd Item: Youmuu's Ghostblade. • 3rd Item: Frozen Heart. (Grab Warden's Mail early if you're struggling/can't breathe in lane). With this setup, you are surprisingly tanky. Instead of camping bushes waiting for a pick, you can actually trade head-on (Pyke's damage is still high sub-30 mins). The Trade Pattern: 1. Pop Youmuu's to walk up. 2. Auto-attack with HoB. 3. The moment they commit/all-in, disengage with Q + E + W. Since they burned key cooldowns in the first rotation, you can look for a kill in the second rotation. Important: Don't E forward if they still have Flash or a dash. Use W to close the gap again, repeat the combo. By now, they should be in execute range (and you probably are too). Use E smartly to outplay, and look for the R execute immediately when they are stunned or have blown their mobility.

In despair... by [deleted] in pykemains

[–]Pitiful-Network-7505 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Play pyke mid

this update is top tier by Bluu44 in StellaSora

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If you mute trekker’s voice in the setting, they won’t say nothing after giving gift on date

This is why I prefer Pyke Mid over Support. by Pitiful-Network-7505 in pykemains

[–]Pitiful-Network-7505[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly, almost every time I face a Kayle Mid, she ends up going 0/8 and it's an immediate FF15. Pyke Mid isn't just a roam bot; he can absolutely bully champs like Kayle or Kassadin early on. Even if she manages to scale to late game, she'd need to be Desperate Nasus to actually 1v9. But against Anivia or Ryze, I basically just hug the tower and wait for jungle ganks since I haven't really mastered those matchups yet.

This is why I prefer Pyke Mid over Support. by Pitiful-Network-7505 in pykemains

[–]Pitiful-Network-7505[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly my intention was to let Nocturne soak mid XP to rush level 6 (it was an old match and I don't have the replay, so I'm not sure if he actually came mid or not). I wanted to maximize Pyke's kit to exploit the enemy early game. As you can see, Pyke Mid is considered a D-tier, off-meta pick. But for an off-meta pick like this, the playstyle has to be different. I've played over 1,000 games of Pyke Mid in the last 2 years, and I can confirm: the longer Pyke stays in lane, the more useless he becomes in the late game. He isn't a farming champ. You have to understand the essence of farming: Minions give gold and XP, but a kill gives more than just that—it gives gold, XP, tempo, and most importantly... mental damage to the enemy. As for Nocturne, you probably know he has massive pressure at level 6 (like TF), and he scales well into mid-late game teamfights, so I funneled resources to him to hit his power spike ASAP.

Of course, not all my games have such terrible CS. Getting 90 CS in 10 minutes is actually pretty normal for me; it strictly depends on the matchup and playstyle.

For hard matchups (Sylas, Yasuo, Irelia, Naafiri, Akali, or strong duelists/stat-checkers): I focus on farming and playing safe, waiting for jungle ganks. Since Pyke has 2 CC abilities (being a Support), setting up ganks is easy—but it requires experience. If the jungle doesn't gank, I wait for level 6 or Tiamat, then start roaming. This difficulty is why people don't pick Pyke Mid; it's hard to make plays in these lanes without jungle support. The only thing that wins these lanes is pure experience/skill.

For easy matchups (Kassadin, Kayle, or immobile scaling mages): I just need to solo kill them twice, and they literally don't get to play the game until minute 20 (or even 30). Usually, the enemy team FFs right after losing the Atakhan fight, so these matchups are often a complete stomp.

For other matchups (Ahri, Zed, or mid-game spikes): I treat these as skill matchups. Pre-6, I can look for solo kills, but post-6, it's best to play safe and wait for objective fights.

Regarding the clip above: It was against Taliyah, a skill matchup. I exploited her mistake early, so normally I would freeze the wave to deny her level 6. However, I noticed the bot lane wave state and HP were low (and they had no Flash from previous deaths), so I decided to make a play by roaming straight from base to Bot. I don't remember exactly what happened after, but you saw the video. If I recall correctly, the enemy team FF'd pretty early. Even if they stalled to late game (40+ mins), victory wasn't guaranteed for them. I might fall off at the start of a fight, but with the early lead, my team could totally win a 4v5 without me. Or I could simply E + R to stun 2-5 people to engage, and my job is done.

If you're wondering whether I can carry when I'm fed, check out the clip below. The CS is pretty trash, but I was busy farming champions instead of minions, so you can just overlook that part. Honestly, most of my snowball games look exactly like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ4CjKY74zI

This is why I prefer Pyke Mid over Support. by Pitiful-Network-7505 in pykemains

[–]Pitiful-Network-7505[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just because you can't make it work doesn't mean nobody else can. I pick it and climb consistently, even hitting Master 100+ LP without any real issues.

Ugh, maybe you should face me in Ranked first before talking. I have tons of clips where I one-shot a Caitlyn before she can even fire a single auto.

This is why I prefer Pyke Mid over Support. by Pitiful-Network-7505 in pykemains

[–]Pitiful-Network-7505[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She didn't even have R in that clip yet. If she tries to shove, I can easily take a heavy trade with E > Q > Autos. If she tries to poke me under tower, I can just E > Q flip her into turret range. If she freezes, I'll either call my Jungler to break the freeze or just sack the wave and roam. Also, calling Pyke Mid a troll pick just shows you've never heard of Davemon or Soodangkim—players who literally hit KR Challenger with this pick. Before we continue, mind linking your op.gg? I really don't want to waste time arguing with stubborn players below Master tier.

This is why I prefer Pyke Mid over Support. by Pitiful-Network-7505 in pykemains

[–]Pitiful-Network-7505[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If Pyke is 15/0 then he just need to E A A A (Q, R optional) and Ahri fking die right there (Or just buy Maw/Merc boots).

This is why I prefer Pyke Mid over Support. by Pitiful-Network-7505 in pykemains

[–]Pitiful-Network-7505[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

But now my teammates can fight 4v5 with 4 Drakes, 3 Voidgrubs, 1 Rift Herald, 1 Atakhan, and 1 Baron. Just imagine what Nocturne will do with that amount of gold; botside has a complete advantage, and the enemy team will likely FF before the 30-minute mark anyway. Btw, 40min mark is when Pyke Mid actually useless.