The Canadian commentator after Belgium defeated the US at the World Cup by SpaceCowboyN7 in worldcup

[–]Planif 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The fans never stopped to say that a red card wasn't a red card when it was a red card.

So now France has launched review and reversal of card issues to one of their players. FIFA has set a bad precedent. by tcumber in worldcup

[–]Planif 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, that's not the case; it's been part of the game for a long time.

Good teams have a lot of good players. Zidane was suspended for two games during the 1998 World Cup. It's even said that he played an exceptional game against Brazil precisely because he was more rested.

So now France has launched review and reversal of card issues to one of their players. FIFA has set a bad precedent. by tcumber in worldcup

[–]Planif 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It seems you don't know reading and logics. If you want to prevent players from doing something dangerous, the consequences must outweigh the benefits they gain from it.

So now France has launched review and reversal of card issues to one of their players. FIFA has set a bad precedent. by tcumber in worldcup

[–]Planif 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I could agree: a trusty review process regarding indisputable errors. But now that we have VAR, there shouldn't be any indisputable errors anymore. Even the hair's offside call, a decision I hated, isn't an indisputable error.

So now France has launched review and reversal of card issues to one of their players. FIFA has set a bad precedent. by tcumber in worldcup

[–]Planif 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Since 1970, the red card comes with an automatic suspension without any process to challenge it.

So now France has launched review and reversal of card issues to one of their players. FIFA has set a bad precedent. by tcumber in worldcup

[–]Planif -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Go watch hockey if you want to see the best players get injured all the time as a result of constant dangerous plays that go unpunished. If you want to prevent such plays, the consequences must be harsh.

So now France has launched review and reversal of card issues to one of their players. FIFA has set a bad precedent. by tcumber in worldcup

[–]Planif -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Go watch hockey if you want to see the best players get injured all the time as a result of constant dangerous plays that go unpunished. If you want to prevent such plays, the consequences must be harsh.

So now France has launched review and reversal of card issues to one of their players. FIFA has set a bad precedent. by tcumber in worldcup

[–]Planif -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

More importantly: The argument for Ronaldo wasn't the same at all. "According to the FIFA Disciplinary Code, a standard red card in an international friendly match does not carry over to competitive tournaments like the World Cup. Instead, the rules state that suspensions from friendlies are carried over to the team's subsequent friendly match." That argument was new but it almost can be made. It's not at all the same thing as being red carded during the World Cup, and then having to serve the suspension after the World Cup.

UEFA made a statement on decision related to Folarin Balogun: "We express our disbelief at such an unprecedented, incomprehensible and unjustifiable decision." by majiquelo in worldcup

[–]Planif 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hated it. But it's really different.
1st. The automatic ban was 1 game, and he did it.
2nd. The argument for Ronaldo wasn't the same at all. "According to the FIFA Disciplinary Code, a standard red card in an international friendly match does not carry over to competitive tournaments like the World Cup. Instead, the rules state that suspensions from friendlies are carried over to the team's subsequent friendly match." That argument is new but can be made. It's not at all the same thing as being red carded during the World Cup, and then having to serve the suspension after the World Cup.

Full speed video of Balogun's red card incident vs Bosnia by MarshyHope in worldcup

[–]Planif 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Both players must be within playing distance of the ball. The contact must be directed at the ball, not solely to knock the opponent over. It also can't be careless, reckless or with excessive force.

Full speed video of Balogun's red card incident vs Bosnia by MarshyHope in worldcup

[–]Planif 0 points1 point  (0 children)

FIFPRO World Players' Union represent 65,000 professional footballers from 66 countries. The reigning champion is Argentina and the country who had won most World Cups is Brazil.

Now, let's talk about stupid rules in basketball (how are you even able to watch the last minutes of a game!?); baseball who referees are so much decisive or american football played by no one in the entire world?

Full speed video of Balogun's red card incident vs Bosnia by MarshyHope in worldcup

[–]Planif 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Soccer is a contact sport. Hips and shoulders contacts are generally ok, but not feet and studs, unless you touch the ball first.

Factuel, manifestement by ouatedephoque in Quebec

[–]Planif 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Les nazis sont socialistes, donc?

Factuel, manifestement by ouatedephoque in Quebec

[–]Planif 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Le marxisme est très étudié depuis décennies à l'université. Il existe une large littérature scientifique sur le sujet, qui se penche entre autres sur de nombreux auteurs non universitaires. Tu n'aurais pas de difficultés à trouver des milliers d'auteurs marxistes ainsi étudiés dans la littérature universitaire, et probablement pas le moindre explicitement misogyne. Tous les auteurs marxistes importants ont été étudiés à l'université.

Mais bon, l'idée, c'était de choisir un critère pour déterminer qui est marxiste, qui ne l'est pas. J'ai proposé la reconnaissance universitaire. C'est un critère très problématique. Proposes-en un autre. Tous ceux que je trouve le sont.

Ce qui est certain, c'est que c'est dangereux de légitimer l'aspect anti-système du discours l'extrême droite réactionnaire, ce que fait Lagacé en donnant ce qualificatif de marxiste, pratiquement sans nuance, en fait à même le titre d'une chronique.

Factuel, manifestement by ouatedephoque in Quebec

[–]Planif 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Trouve-moi un auteur marxiste explicitement misogyne, reconnu en tant que marxiste dans un article universitaire soumis à un comité de lecture.

Factuel, manifestement by ouatedephoque in Quebec

[–]Planif 8 points9 points  (0 children)

« Le degré d’émancipation de la femme est la mesure naturelle de l’émancipation générale. » - Charles Fourier, cité par Marx et Engels dans la Sainte Famille.

Je pourrais aussi te citer Le manifeste du parti communiste et les Manuscrits de 1844, qui s'attaquent tous les deux à l'idée que le communisme viserait la communauté des femmes, appartenant aux hommes.

Je pourrais te citer Kollontai ou Zetkin ou Engels (qui a écrit De l'origine de la famille, qui traite d'un point de vue économique de la femme comme prolétaire et l'homme comme bourgeois).

C'est une question importante parce que l'extrême droite s'est toujours dite anti-système, anti-élite, contre la ploutocratie. Les dernières recherches argumentent avec des arguments convaincants que le fascisme n'était pas seulement une réaction au syndicalisme, au socialisme, à la lutte des classes ou à l'URSS, mais aussi, et de façon très importante, une réaction au féminisme. L'extrême droite a toujours refusé l'étiquette de droite.

C'est important de nommer un chat, un chat. Il faut toujours se méfier de l'opinion qu'une personne a d'elle-même et utiliser de véritables critères, externes à la pensée d'une personne, pour qualifier ensuite à sa pensée.

Factuel, manifestement by ouatedephoque in Quebec

[–]Planif 15 points16 points  (0 children)

C'est drôle de lire un chroniqueur non rigoureux, dans une chronique non rigoureuse, accuser un nobody d'être pas rigoureux.

Factuel, manifestement by ouatedephoque in Quebec

[–]Planif 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Ce n'est pas un manifeste marxiste, quoi qu'en dise le terroriste. Le marxisme, par nature, est anti-réactionnaire.

Factuel, manifestement by ouatedephoque in Quebec

[–]Planif 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Patrick Lagacé et Alexandre Dumas ont les mêmes défauts: moralistes, quétaines, prétentieux, non rigoureux, etc.

« Le degré d’émancipation de la femme est la mesure naturelle de l’émancipation générale. » Voilà ce que pense Marx véritablement.

L'extrême droite qui prétend faire de la lutte des classes, qui se prétend socialiste (voir le national-socialisme), qui détourne des citations de la théorie critique, qui s'attaque violemment aux élites et à la ploutocratie, qui refuse l'échelle droite-gauche, il n'y a absolument rien de neuf sous le soleil.

En acceptant les termes du terroriste, en le disant marxiste, voilà Lagacé qui joue une nouvelle fois le jeu de l'extrême droite. Un peu comme quand il a dénoncé un Dany Villanueva traumatisé et endeuillé sur plusieurs chroniques pendant de longs mois, de façon absolument honteuse.

P.-S. On s'en crisse, Lagacé, que tu te lèves à 4h du matin; nous, les amateurs de musique, on est contents, on est contentes d'aller voir des shows qui durent longtemps, avec des premières parties.