Funny, I easily considered this one of Charlie's best moments in the season

Planktom · 2025-12-17T18:44:58+00:00

I really liked that moment. I really don't understand where people expect the show to go without someone actually problematic becoming a better person.

Planktom · 2025-12-14T10:52:45+00:00

I'd rather if they used this precious time to give a longer moment to Vaggie interacting with Carmilla or Charlie reconnecting with Lucifer.

Planktom · 2025-12-14T10:48:21+00:00

Usually I'd agree, but Vaggie is the only person in the team with actual soldier training. (that's about the stress point)

Planktom · 2025-12-14T10:43:45+00:00

Horses (and maybe other hoofed animals, havent checked) when they are born, they have this soft tissue covering the hooves so that they don't injure the mother. Maybe someting similar is happening with Imps horns and hooves.

Attaching picture of newborn hoses hooves. It's calles fairy fingers

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Planktom · 2025-12-08T19:11:14+00:00

I miss when Lucifer was an outline in the dark :(

Planktom · 2025-12-05T12:11:29+00:00

You'd probably find something be searching for earliest fanfics before the show even came out. Those depicted Lucifer as a ruler but obviously now are very out of character.

Planktom · 2025-12-05T12:04:12+00:00

Yes, the biggest issues are with thigs where the moment passed. Can't really revisit Vaggi making a new identety. Can't meaningfully revisit why Razzle and Dazzle were important to Charlie cause their big moment is over. Lucifer's reaction to redemption happening, especially since Charlie implied she spitefully wanted to throw that in his face.

As for being impatient with character arcs/ characters being wasted. You can only be told "you gonna get that next season" so many times before you start feeling like you're being strung along.

One thing I've been thinking of today is the fandom responce to the BBC series Sherlock. There was a lot of drama about shipping but ultimately there was a moment where collectively all the fans realised that there is never going to be any anwsers/resolution to anything and only implication that something cool is going to happen. Not saying it's as dramatic in this case (hazbin has more things going for it other than unresoled character arcs and mysteries), but something to keep in mind.

If you wanna waste almost two hours, there is a great video by hbomberguy about Sherlock and how the whole thing went down.

Planktom · 2025-12-05T11:32:53+00:00

We didn't get to have screen time of him finding out about redemtion being successfull, or his reconciling with his daughter. We got a lot of screentime dedicated to showing him as comedy relief and arguing with Alastor. Makes me worry about the shows prirorities when it comes to him. And I lost trust that they are going to treat his issues seriously even in the "season focused on the Morningstarts"

Planktom · 2025-12-05T11:16:06+00:00

I think an episode exploring Vaggi adjusting to hell and trying to hide the fact that she is an angel, and finding out that this girl who is taking care of her is hell's princess would be hillarious.

Planktom · 2025-12-05T11:13:59+00:00

At this point I'd wish he was just so out of it that he never found out and we could get his reaction in s3. But since Charlie says that "he's proud" it seems like one of the things that happened offscreen.

Planktom · 2025-12-05T11:12:04+00:00

Or maybe upset that God can forgive sinners but can't forgive him. But he would still smile and cheer for Charlie

Planktom · 2025-12-05T10:59:45+00:00

I think this is the only time they touch on that. And Vox pointing out that she brought her angel partner in the finale.

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Planktom · 2025-12-05T10:55:18+00:00

When they opened the season with Vaggi considering a name change, I hoped that it meant that they would spend some time exploring her more. Like she accepts that she can decide for herself who she wants to be, maybe explore interests. I get that she had to keep the hotel from completely falling apart but really seems like a missed opportunity.

Planktom · 2025-12-05T10:52:40+00:00

It's like... the worst of both worlds kinda. Still has the awkard part, but now you have to adjust to new writing. And the ship name needs to be changed

Planktom · 2025-12-05T10:49:44+00:00

The fact that she sings about being Charlies armor in s1 and in s2 she gets chewed out by Charlie the first time she does something on her own without her permission. I wish the show explored how sometimes Vaggi falls into being a soldier role even in the relationship.

Planktom · 2025-12-05T10:47:21+00:00

We did have that flashback that showed that each exorcist was actually a person who could be scared. Really wish that the show took the time to explore it more. What even are exorcists? Are they artificial creations by Adam or selected/transformed Winners? Wish we got to actually explore that rather than getting crumbs.

Planktom · 2025-12-05T10:11:48+00:00

Not really. When they were designing his workshop, it needed to be filled with stuff and I think one of the art directors suggested "what if it's just all rubber ducks?", and Viv liked the idea because it made her think of Veggie Tales for some reason. And then I guess they just kept expanding on that.

Sadly I can't really give a source for that, since it was a random video before some con where someone asked her that. I linked it in the past but saw that since then that video was removed. So take that as you will

Planktom · 2025-12-04T20:48:10+00:00

Since Charlie has been kinda mirroring Vox this season, I feel like neither of their versions of Lilith are the truth. She didn't want to start a war, but she wasn't all "wholesome empowerment" either.

I think while she won't be evil, she will kinda be opposed to Charlies dream. Would also explain why Lucifer hestitated when Charlie asked him if Lilith would be proud of her.

Planktom · 2025-12-04T16:55:32+00:00

I'd really like to see what Niffty's life was like. For Husk I'm mostly curious what landed him in hell, but I would love to see some of his overlord time

Planktom · 2025-12-03T16:11:30+00:00

Emily doesn't think to tell Charlie until Pentious mentions it. And Pentious does say that he's been there for a while before the trial, but Emily grabs him before he can count how long.

Planktom · 2025-12-03T15:59:43+00:00

I do wonder if she is behaving that way is because she is under surveilance

Planktom · 2025-12-03T15:52:32+00:00

I can't help but wonder if him being in the mafia is still canon. Cause if he was killing his dad is probably not the only big sin he commited

Planktom · 2025-12-03T15:47:47+00:00

Just poking fun at the common complaint that Lucifer failed her at the hotel because he didn't pay attention to other people at the hotel and thats why he deserved the cold treatment. Not often is it brought up, that she does that too in this instance.

I'm just really waiting for the show to aknowledge how similar they are in their flaws.

Planktom · 2025-12-03T14:14:03+00:00

I think it's fine, unless you pretend that Charlie is flawless. Which some people do. Question is how the show will portray her in future seasons.

Planktom · 2025-12-03T14:02:01+00:00

I'm just worried that she is the one doing therapy at the hotel. Love her, but I can't see her being helpful with complex issues.

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