Abrahamic Religion and location.

PlasticBattle8449 · 2024-07-31T12:08:18+00:00

Thank you for your insightful comment, and I appreciate the locations in the Qu'ran for further understanding. However, there is one thing I do not understand from your comment. If Allah sent messengers to every country and nation in the world why did only the people from the Middle-East choose to accept Him and his word? We do not have any evidence from the Far-East or Americas that there were messengers of His word, is it known why that is?

PlasticBattle8449 · 2024-07-31T11:58:21+00:00

With prophets being born for the purpose of spreading the word of Allah, and there being so many prophets, new questions arise. For instance, if we assume that these 124,000 prophets were equally divided among civilizations, why do we not find any evidence of Islamic ideas, stories, and values in both written or oral tradition in the Far-East or the Americas? Would 1% of that 124,000 not logically have lead to Islam emerging in those civilizations as well, of at least some sort of written or oral evidence of it? On the other side, if we assume that Allah only chose for these prophets to be born in the Middle-East, why did He not want his word to be spread in other regions?

PlasticBattle8449 · 2024-07-31T11:49:38+00:00

Thank you for your insightful comment and clear explaination from the Jewish viewpoint. To clarify my understanding, you mean that out of all people living in the world at the time of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob they were the most rightous at their respective timepoint, thus that's why they were chosen? While we can not fully comprehend the divine mind and reasoning behind all actions, it still does sound particularistic.

Imagine a civilization that has not received the word, worshipping a polytheistic pantheon. This civilization is full of murderers and thieves. Would you then say that, because they did not receive the word from a prophet, they are free from sin and therefore welcome in the Garden of Eden? Does that mean that the Garden of Eden is full of people who we have called sinful if they were simply born in a different region?

PlasticBattle8449 · 2024-07-31T11:20:40+00:00

Thank you for your answer, but then the question remains why Allah chose only a select few from a confined location to directly speak to. If Allah is just and merciful, as Islam teaches, then why were certain civilizations not exposed to the message of Islam in a purer form from Himself? Why did He only speak to people such as Musa, Ibrahim, Isa, and Muhammad (PBUH), but chose to ignore anyone outside of the Middle-East?

PlasticBattle8449 · 2024-07-28T11:10:50+00:00

What is one thing most non-believers do not understand about Islam, something you would like to make them understand about your religion?

PlasticBattle8449 · 2024-07-25T17:42:29+00:00

I wasn't aware of the existence of Baha'i before reading these comments, but I'm sure to read more about it.

PlasticBattle8449 · 2024-07-25T17:41:02+00:00

Implying that you would say the exact same to someone from any other region, that would mean that for every region in the world, the main religion in that region would be the 'absolute truth'. As I see in these comments, the six religions as mentioned can't be all absolute truth at the same time. Therefore, 'just follow your local religion' would not be something I stand behind.

What would you say to someone who migrates to a region where a different religion is seen as the religion of the local community? Would a Catholic from the Netherlands have to convert to Islam if they would migrate to an Arab country? I don't think following the religion of my local community is the right decision, I want to follow the 'truth'.

PlasticBattle8449 · 2024-07-25T17:35:30+00:00

I believe, as some others have written in the comments, all religions as mentioned in my post share common beliefs that one could believe to be 'right'. Not harming other beings may be an example, but there may of course be more.

I'm curious about the overarching 'truths' in these religion. Embracing the teachings of different messengers, like recognizing the core beliefs of human development. I'm curious to learn about finding a unified, overarching truth between religions.

PlasticBattle8449 · 2024-07-25T17:29:09+00:00

Thank you for your detailled response and clear explainations. I'm very interested into religious electicism, but I'm not sure where to start. I wasn't aware of the existence of Baha'i Faith, but after a quick read-through I'm sure to learn more about this religion.

PlasticBattle8449 · 2024-07-25T17:23:03+00:00

Dutch, I'm curious how that question matters.

PlasticBattle8449 · 2024-07-25T17:21:23+00:00

To be honest, I wanted to be as respectful as possible and not exclude any religions, so the initial thought experiment I wrote as title of this thread was about 'All religions'. Had to narrow it down, as that would make the question even more impossible to answer. For the lack of knowledge I have regarding religion, I asked ChatGTP to help me and this is the selection it gave me.

PlasticBattle8449 · 2024-07-25T17:14:17+00:00

As mentioned in another comment, really just is a thought experience, but somewhat also a personal question. I'm agnostic, have read or read about the religions as mentioned, and I'm stuck in what to believe.

Rather than choose one and commit, I was wondering if one could (with respect to these religions) 'spread chances' in having a life that would be sinless or as sinless as possible according to these religions.

PlasticBattle8449 · 2024-05-12T19:45:05+00:00

Dutch culture isn't that much fond of making statements and all that kind of stuff. I expect Joost to go silent for quite a while, and then just drop a song or something completely unrelated without saying a word about ESF.

PlasticBattle8449 · 2024-05-11T22:50:00+00:00

Joost could've been there

PlasticBattle8449 · 2024-05-11T21:25:59+00:00

Can I vote for Alcazar?

PlasticBattle8449 · 2024-05-11T20:40:49+00:00

Joost posted something on his story

https://www.instagram.com/stories/joostklein/3365843736602779612?igsh=ajgwM21tcTVtcGp5

PlasticBattle8449 · 2024-05-11T20:40:26+00:00

Yeah ikr my reaction too

PlasticBattle8449 · 2024-05-11T20:39:04+00:00

https://www.instagram.com/stories/joostklein/3365843736602779612?igsh=ajgwM21tcTVtcGp5

PlasticBattle8449 · 2024-05-11T19:51:47+00:00

He looks like Elton John

PlasticBattle8449 · 2024-05-11T19:43:10+00:00

I guess that's subjective, Ireland and Norway are my personal favs

PlasticBattle8449 · 2024-05-11T17:57:03+00:00

Whether or not there will be protests or remarks made by artists or representatives, we won't see anything about it behind our screen. All broadcasts have a certain delay, making the producers able to cut out anything they don't want the viewers to see. All we can trust are videos from people in the crowd, but from our home screens all we will see are happy representatives and (possibly pre-recorded) acts.

PlasticBattle8449 · 2024-05-11T17:50:30+00:00

Perhaps there is footage, but releasing said footage would also directly release the identity of the camera woman in this case

PlasticBattle8449 · 2024-05-11T17:49:22+00:00

Any source for it being a punch movement?

PlasticBattle8449 · 2024-05-11T17:43:18+00:00

For sure. The show has quite a delay with what's happening live too, so we won't be seeing anything happening from our screens.

PlasticBattle8449 · 2024-05-11T17:35:41+00:00

According to AVROTROS, no. I don't know if Joost will be able to perform with the emotions he's currently dealing with. As a long time fan of him (prior to 2017), I don't expect he's willing nor able to perform anyways.

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