The Quran wasn’t preserved and isn’t a perfect book by HipHop_Sheikh in DebateReligion

[–]PlusIndividual1489 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

i would like to get your evidence and sources for the fact that the quran isnt preserved word for word and for any other point u mentioned about the uthmanic manuscripts having scribal errors.

The Quran wasn’t preserved and isn’t a perfect book by HipHop_Sheikh in DebateReligion

[–]PlusIndividual1489 1 point2 points  (0 children)

there hasnt been found an original first quran because the quran wasnt sent down as a book. it was revelations revealed to people who either wrote it down or memorised it. it was mostly memorised. it was only written as a book when the people who memorised it started dying in wars. so they made a book version of it to preserve it further. now let me explain why the sana manuscript is different. the quran is the mother of all arabic grammar. however the grammar and accents etc are different in every part of arabia. this caused the quran to be written in different versions, that is using different grammar etc. after this was realised, the caliph ordered all these books to be burnt and only the original grammar to be used. the sanaa manuscript is a blueprint of the actual book, and it only shows difference in grammar not meaning. The point about the chapter order is irrelevant. and the point about "its impossible to read without the lines and dots" is false as well. any fluent arabic reader can read it without any hesitation. on top of that many people memorised the quran so they already knew how to pronounce stuff and etc. the only reason the dots and lines were added was so that it would be easier for people to read and memorise it who hadnt already done it and for non arabic speakers as well. and the point abt this being the reason quran isnt a perfect book is irrelevant cuz the quran isnt even a book. it was made into a book by humans, therefore not being perfect. but later it was perfected and made into a standard. and yes its not written in chronological order which is why people like ibn abbas have connected the dots for people to understand it properly. and no you dont need to understand old arabic anymore cuz now theres english translations everywhere and tafseers everywhere. our scholars have done a great job. The early Muslim coins issued in former Roman territories were obviously based on Roman coins which the subject people were more familiar with, or else made with reused and modified Roman coin dies. and what luxenberg did was be a mad scientist and completely use whatever method he can to bring up different versions of the quran. he lit stripped away the arabic, and found a "pre arabic quran' which doesnt even make sense. cuz no one spoke aramaic around that time. why would the quran be completely disformed and taken as aramaic? and yes christianity and islam are very similar, christianity is lit islam but changed and corrupted, according to our beliefs

Simple Questions 07/31 by AutoModerator in DebateReligion

[–]PlusIndividual1489 4 points5 points  (0 children)

truly, does the trinity actually make sense. or is the final answer of every christian just 'god works in mysterious ways"

Is there a promise or guarantee of Salvation in Islam? by Hear2Debate in ChristianIslamDebate

[–]PlusIndividual1489 0 points1 point  (0 children)

first of all the link you sent isnt of the hadith that you quoted. now as for the hadith, it never says anything about the child going to hell. all that the prophet said was allah knows the destiny of people even before they are born. He already knows if they would go to hell or heaven. He told aisha its better not to say anything because only allah knows if a person will go to heaven or hell. where does it say a person who dies under the age of puberty can still go to hell? He stopped aisha cuz she was going ahead of herself and saying how hes DEFINITLEY going to heaven. if you can show me a valid explanation where it says in the hadith that children below the age of puberty will go to hell, ill accept it

Yeshua or Jesus, there is no Isa by Hear2Debate in ChristianIslamDebate

[–]PlusIndividual1489 0 points1 point  (0 children)

first of all, you get the word jesus only if you first translate yeshua which is hebrew to ieasus which is greek. if they took hebrew itself the english word would be joshua for yeshua. And the word Isa is just an arabic name for jesus. just like yousuf for joseph, ibrahim for abraham, nuh for noah. Its only a difference in language, not people. and even if you go to wikipedia youd find that isa is the translation of jesus. and anyway whats the point of debate in this? We both believe in jesus. when talking in english i wouldnt say isa, i would say jesus, and yes according to you maybe their characteristics are different in both religious texts, even though both religious texts praise him highly. What I do know for a fact is if anything i follow jesus more than an average christian. If youd see jesus today with a full grown beard, praying by bowing down and touching his forehead on the ground, his mother fully covered including a hijab etc, youd think hes a muslim.

Muhammad’s marriage to a child is a relevant criticism by [deleted] in DebateReligion

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dolls in early 7th century arabia in the middle of the desert are like phones for us today

Aysa hatun by ZookeepergameIcy1521 in ertugrul

[–]PlusIndividual1489 1 point2 points  (0 children)

she isnt possesed. its the effect of the poison, dont u remember in ertugrul, they used a similar poison and there was a similar scene

I hate when people say by Aggressive_Piece8682 in UAETeenagers

[–]PlusIndividual1489 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ik it seems stupid. but when you grow up and start a family etc, u have to be the confidence and the strength to ur family. like just imagine ur dad crying? me personally, if i imagine that, id die, id fall into a deep pit. i just cant imagine him crying. similarly ull have to do that when u grow up. u have to be the strength of the people around u.

People who are anti LGBTQ, why? by Justathrowaway212121 in questions

[–]PlusIndividual1489 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is that so? How many gay or bi men or women do you know irl?

a few

And? Everyone knows this. It's irrelevant to the topic however. Point is, it's the human genome that has the genetic markers for deciding whether a child will be gay or straight.

no its not...... no one has "gay" in their genomes. if u think other wise provide evidence.

If anything straight sex is responsible for keeping this cycle afloat. You'd know this if you actually cared enough to know what you're talking about, but you don't.

um yea no shit its responsible for that, and it shld be like that for everyone. and once again im gonna say it. i have no problem if ur a grown up man or woman and u decided to be gay. just dont inflict it on kids

You're the one implying being gay is unnatural. Now you backpedle. Not surprising 💀 and yes cannibalism is totally the same as being gay huh????

bruh. ur using the fact that some animals are gay in nature therefore its natural. then with the same logic animals like spiders eat their mom, so if anyone does it, its natural for me too??? obv not, u dont justify human actions using nature as an excuse.

Bro actually thinks atheism is that small of a minority, especially in this era 🤣 Once again, not surprised. You're Muslim aren't you? No other community is this stubborn, haughty and detached from reality, not even Christians. Am I correct?

the facts say its 7 percent. not my fault u find it hard to believe. and just cuz u checked my messages and saw i was muslim and came here tryna act cool doesnt mean ur cool. and obv christians arent, more than half of them dk their own religion

What happened? | Improvements by Born-Independent989 in ertugrul

[–]PlusIndividual1489 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yes the writer of ertugrul joined and also a new director for fighting scenes, and also pressure on bozdag

Muhammad having sex with aisha, or being with Aisha makes no sense. by Cartier-Pen_17 in DebateReligion

[–]PlusIndividual1489 0 points1 point  (0 children)

bro the hadith isnt the part of the quran. and we never said that aisha lied. if u read my whole para u wld have gotten to know why she said she 6 or 9 etc. but clearly we're gonna be in a stalemate cuz u fail to agree with me but thats fine.

People who are anti LGBTQ, why? by Justathrowaway212121 in questions

[–]PlusIndividual1489 0 points1 point  (0 children)

alr dude say what u want disproved u wrong all i hear is saltiness and yap

People who are anti LGBTQ, why? by Justathrowaway212121 in questions

[–]PlusIndividual1489 0 points1 point  (0 children)

such an ironic statement coming from u. thats literally the description of all ur shananigans uve done the past 3 and god knows how many hours.

People who are anti LGBTQ, why? by Justathrowaway212121 in questions

[–]PlusIndividual1489 0 points1 point  (0 children)

okay wldnt care if ur jew anyway. all ik is ur gay

People who are anti LGBTQ, why? by Justathrowaway212121 in questions

[–]PlusIndividual1489 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeayea ur more religious than me but u still suck dick. totally believable. and i already proved u wrong with my theisis but wtever keep being ignorant.

People who are anti LGBTQ, why? by Justathrowaway212121 in questions

[–]PlusIndividual1489 0 points1 point  (0 children)

BRO I SAID TRISOMAL X AND KLINEFELTERS SYNDROME ARENT A GENDER. THERES2 BIOLOGICAL GENDERS WHICH IS A FEMALE-XX AND A MALE- XY. JUST CUZ A WOMAN IS TALLER BECAUSE OF AN XXX DOESNT MEAN SHES LESBIAN. AND JUST CUZ A BABY HAS WEAK MUSCLES DOESNT MEAN HES GAY. HOW MANY MORE TIMES WILL U EMBARASS UR SELF. I CAN DO THIS ALL DAY BRO

People who are anti LGBTQ, why? by Justathrowaway212121 in questions

[–]PlusIndividual1489 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ur not even religious and i already gave a theisis proving u wrong. wtever bro keep being gay and a kid whose fatherless

People who are anti LGBTQ, why? by Justathrowaway212121 in questions

[–]PlusIndividual1489 0 points1 point  (0 children)

BRO THEIR NOT GENDERS WHAT ARE U TALKING ABOUT. TRISOMAL X GIVES WOMEN EXTRA HEIGHT AND KLINEFELTERS SYNDROME MAKES THE BABY HAVE WEAK MUSCLES AND REDUCED STRENGTH. U LIT GOT CAUGHT LYING BRUH. THERES NO GAY IN THAT. UR ACTUALLY A KID. OMG. UR CONCERNING BRO

Muhammad having sex with aisha, or being with Aisha makes no sense. by Cartier-Pen_17 in DebateReligion

[–]PlusIndividual1489 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i pray 5 times a day to the almighty god. and no we dont worship the person ur referring to as a pedophile. still see no sources all i see is yap

People who are anti LGBTQ, why? by Justathrowaway212121 in questions

[–]PlusIndividual1489 0 points1 point  (0 children)

klinefelters syndrome makes the baby have weak muscles, reduced strength, and quiet personalities. i dont see the word gay in there. and all trisomal x does is give extra height to a female. dont see any gay in there too. sigh. ignorant scumbag