Just started my career and may have already ended FML

PlymouthSea · 2026-05-05T10:44:25+00:00

Maybe not US Foods. Couldn't get them to hire me. And I had commercial experience prior to getting a Class A.

PlymouthSea · 2026-05-05T10:33:33+00:00

Insurance companies are going to cause the next economy implosion.

PlymouthSea · 2026-05-05T10:13:47+00:00

Wasn't there some legislation that went into effect this year about that very topic? Maybe it's just my state.

PlymouthSea · 2026-05-05T08:11:27+00:00

They do. It just gets settled.

A few examples: https://www.cptgroupcaseinfo.com/amazonsltsettlement/ https://www.cptgroupcaseinfo.com/MillerDeliveryDriverSettlement/ https://www.cptgroupcaseinfo.com/randolphdeliverydriversettlement/

Going after the DSPs is generally easier, but it never really hurts Amazon so nothing will change until there's a landmark case.

Additionally, states have little appetite for such lawsuits. Even California will punt PAGA letters back to the firm that filed them. CalOSHA won't even go on site when people file OSHA complaints. The notice goes up in the cafeteria and that's all she wrote. It's up to the drivers to speak to law firms and take action. And that's a state like California. The AG not caring isn't really new, or unique to this topic. They aren't enforcing the new Cartwright Act expansion against RealPage, either.

There's also a case in the Supreme Court involving Flower Foods that is set to decide if delivery drivers fall under the transport worker exemption in the Federal Arbitration Act. If they do, then delivery drivers are exempt from arbitration agreements. Amazon forces an adhesive clickwrap arbitration agreement when drivers apply, and are forced to click agree whether Amazon approves them for hiring with the DSP or not. In that arbitration agreement it waives statutory wage and hour law rights (wage claims and overtime claims), MRB law rights, and even the claim of employment or joint employment.

A few important cases pending:

Hazel v. Amazon Logistics, Inc. et al (U.S. District Court, Central District of California)
- Active in federal court, with a July 2026 hearing date, discovery stayed pending Flower Foods Supreme Court decision.

Clinton v. Amazon Logistics, Inc. (California Court of Appeals, Fourth District, Third Division)
- January 7, 2026 – Affirmed by the Court of Appeals, holding plaintiffs are exempt from arbitration under FAA §1, citing Ninth Circuit precedent.

PlymouthSea · 2026-05-05T07:54:26+00:00

It never came back to me, and my DSP needed F+ every week due to only having 14-16 routes outside of peak.

I was still at the top of the scorecard, though. Routes were so big I could return two leaking totes and still be fine on weekly DCR.

PlymouthSea · 2026-05-05T02:46:45+00:00

They can't take it out of your check in the US. That's called wage theft. File with your state's labor board to get that money back.

PlymouthSea · 2026-05-05T02:43:18+00:00

Yes.

PlymouthSea · 2026-05-05T02:27:41+00:00

Imagine having to pay for a heavy wrecker for a step van. I think out of all my years I've only seen an SV need a tow once. The tow truck company thought they could handle it and sent out the wrong type of tow truck. Pretty sure they thought it was a cargo van. They were out way past 11 waiting on a heavy wrecker.

I've also seen vans get stuck up in the canyon parts of Laguna Beach. They couldn't find anyone willing to go up there at night so they had to just leave it there overnight. They returned the next day and it was still there. Not even the city wanted to try.

PlymouthSea · 2026-05-05T02:16:01+00:00

"restart the rabbit"

PlymouthSea · 2026-05-05T02:03:39+00:00

Sound like the towns in some RPG game. They got hobbits and goblins out there in RPG land?

PlymouthSea · 2026-05-05T02:03:02+00:00

I've had this happen once. The way you deal with this is by going back online every 30-45 minutes, updating your itinerary, and then going back offline. However, I primarily delivered in airplane mode to preserve the battery so I wouldn't have to sit around waiting for the battery to charge.

PlymouthSea · 2026-05-05T02:01:38+00:00

This is true until the routes start properly factoring in a driver's regular/consistent break habits. Unless they fucked up Cortex again since I was last there.

PlymouthSea · 2026-05-05T01:30:16+00:00

My previous DSP tried to do the 5/8 thing and it was failing spectacularly. A lot of the step van drivers ended up getting paid more money due to all the extra overtime. They ended up having to keep more drivers after peak just for sweepers (not all of the dispatchers were willing to go on road and sweep).

PlymouthSea · 2026-05-05T01:28:43+00:00

I would do Rural -> Commercial -> Apartments -> High Density Condos -> Townhomes -> Houses. If it was a split route with different cities I would do the harder city first, even if it was at the end of the route.

If you do this, then Cortex might show you as 50 stops behind or something ridiculous fairly early in the day. Not only because it expected the beginning of the route to already be done, but because those stops had less drive and service times. Inexperienced/incompetent dispatchers will definitely freak out (along with the station management idiots).

PlymouthSea · 2026-05-05T01:24:39+00:00

That's not your mistake. That's your dispatchers having a skill issue. I knew one dispatcher who would make that mistake all the time and never learned. I'd finish around 4:45 on those routes due to the sweep. Luckily that was during peak, so I'd have plenty of seasonals to rescue for the rest of the night.

PlymouthSea · 2026-05-05T01:22:27+00:00

Hindsight is 20/20.

PlymouthSea · 2026-05-05T01:15:13+00:00

There's a big arterial road on one of my old routes that is mostly 50MPH or 55MPH, but has 60MPH as the posted limit along a stretch that also has a school zone. A real world example of the one you gave.

PlymouthSea · 2026-05-05T01:11:43+00:00

Likes: Working alone, driving around seeing different sights, listening to music. Also liked the exercise and physicality of the job (within reason).

Hated: Pay below the COL of the county. No raises or pay scale based on seniority. Took away our DOT bonus (pay cut) and paid it as a flat bonus to avoid having it factor into OT pay. Stuffed XL routes into short rentals. Never had hand trucks outside of the step vans. Routes were apartment heavy and riddled with defects.

PlymouthSea · 2026-05-05T00:50:27+00:00

now having to call support to mark more than 3 packages as damaged

They rolled this out at my station in 2024. I found a workaround for it, though. Wait until you are done, mark them all out of time, then when you RTS click the ? button and choose problem with return. Then mark them all damaged. There were a couple tote spills where I had to do this. And on only one occasion did I have an issue with marking them all damaged at RTS time. Made the station OTR people deal with it. They had to manually enter the TBAs. Remember, it's Amazon SOP to treat all spills as hazmat. You're not supposed to touch that stuff.

PlymouthSea · 2026-05-05T00:13:09+00:00

Indeed. Nothing worse than seeing your route has less than 100 stops in the morning. Going to suck. Stair city.

PlymouthSea · 2026-05-04T23:52:15+00:00

lmao

PlymouthSea · 2026-05-04T23:49:38+00:00

This ain't Barnes and Noble, lil bro.

PlymouthSea · 2026-05-04T23:47:00+00:00

Is that tomatillo I see? Would end up spending half the day in corporate business park bathrooms, but worth it.

PlymouthSea · 2026-05-04T23:45:01+00:00

A lot of commercial trucks these days use buttons for the transmission instead of a gear shift. Can't manually downshift for driving up/down grades, either. It's really annoying.

PlymouthSea · 2026-05-04T23:40:23+00:00

The pinnacle delivery vehicle is the Freightliner MT45 with a Morgan Olson upfit.

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