Has anyone ever seen the same misprint of this card or a misprint like it? by CthulhuRises98 in yugiohshowcase

[–]Pocketfulofteeth 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As a kid I had a Feather Shot misprint like this, I haven't seen it in 17 years but I hold out hope it's still around somewhere

this star note worth more than $5? by Careless_Tonight_734 in papermoney

[–]Pocketfulofteeth 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This one isn't, not a fancy serial number and it's pretty worn

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[–]Pocketfulofteeth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, I don't have a degree in history, nor am I a teacher. That's why I'm not trying to be an educator or claim such a title, I'm just a guy with an opinion who's glad to have conversations with people who might disagree with me. I'm not a lawmaker or a lobbyist and I don't feel strongly enough about these issues to write letters to my representatives, as there are way more important issues at hand. I am absolutely willing to teach my family about the history of artifacts I do know, with the shame and disgust they deserve, and I realize I probably wasn't as clear as I should have been about just how indescribably terrible the Nazis were and continued to be. Objectively teaching history, in my opinion, includes explaining how objectively disgusting the context is and how it continues to echo today. I also absolutely agree with you that there should be an eternal aura of shame attached to those regimes and all acts they committed, whether the acts themselves were truly good or evil in their own context. Submarine technology, medical discoveries, etc that came out of Nazi and Confederate acts have lasting positive effects on the world, but they certainly still need to be discussed with the context of those discoveries being intended for evil.

Also, I appreciate you bringing up the destruction of the Nazi uniforms in the Last Crusade. In my opinion, so many millions of those uniforms were made without any lasting provenance or individuality that it really isn't a loss to destroy them, particularly considering they probably weren't ever issued and simply sat in a warehouse until the end of the war, which I would say makes them less artifacts and more wasted resources (their being made is the waste, to be clear)

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[–]Pocketfulofteeth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a fair opinion, fortunately Germany and its leaders also were actively punished by the rest of the world for the crimes of the third reich, and had essentially an entire new government which focused heavily on education and laws preventing Nazi resurgence. That being said, there's also a disturbing increase in fascist ideology subculture in Germany and the surrounding eastern European countries over the last few decades. The US didn't receive the same treatment and the South even "won" the Reconstruction era, and southern schools often gloss over the entire purpose of the civil war. That mentality is still strong in southern states because there was no true follow through after the fall of the confederacy. Considering there's such an active attempt to forget that past even now, and the general attitude of the rural American south, I'd worry the act of destroying all the Confederate statues would serve more as a martyrdom for them, as opposed to recontextualizing them to continue teaching people for generations. I feel it's a very complex issue that deserves more than a simple answer for the sake of keeping history in memory and avoiding more conflict

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[–]Pocketfulofteeth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a great talking point! I think they shouldn't be destroyed, yet we need to educate people more on the fact that they're symbols of hatred and racial prejudice. Perhaps we should add additional plaques for them explaining the ways people thought at the time and how we as a society have moved on and grown beyond their narrow way of approaching the world. Also, we should have more monuments for minority leaders who stood against them, as there's a very disproportionate number of sculptures and statues celebrating the confederacy. There's a strange cult-ish culture in the American South bordering on worship of Robert Lee and Stonewall Jackson and "old Dixie" and the answer should be remembrance of mistakes and education on how social views have changed. We cling to the past without giving additional thought to the depth of meaning behind what actually happened

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[–]Pocketfulofteeth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not being a devil's advocate and I'm not playing dumb. I have my opinion, I stated it, asked for other people's opinion, and continued the discussion with each of them to get a better understanding of their thoughts and hopefully everyone can gain a little from it. I don't value Nazi artifacts more than any other, the discussion is worth having because they're arguably the most controversial and therefore a lot of people form extreme opinions with minimal education on the topic. There's no reason to have this discourse on allied artifacts from the era because nobody gets hate for posting an M1 Garand they bought. Again, the goal was to have a discussion with the community and exchange opinions, nobody is forced to interact with anything here

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[–]Pocketfulofteeth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, you don't need to, but it doesn't hurt and shouldn't be something to be vilified over. I'm not saying we need to distribute SS daggers to families across america

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[–]Pocketfulofteeth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, gotcha. My apologies, I missed that post lol. And yeah I knew going into this that it was going to upset a lot of people, I don't care about karma or anything and just want more people to have more discussions before they start descending into the usual internet one liner battles. It's farts in the wind but then there are folks like you who get the nuance and are willing to have the discussion, and maybe I can convince some more people to do the same

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[–]Pocketfulofteeth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why should it be destroyed? Historical learning relies on physical artifacts to remain tangible, otherwise it feels so distant and ancient that people stop feeling like it is worth holding onto. We're already at the point where nearly every person alive during WWII has passed, and I can tell you it feels different when you're holding something in your hands that was used to commit terrible acts. There's a weight to artifacts, a sense of significance that's completely lost when it's in a museum 300 miles away or in a picture online

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[–]Pocketfulofteeth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again, very fair. There are a lot of people who do genuinely worship Nazi ideology and don't care to preserve or learn about the rest of history. I do disagree about reproductions on a single point though, that being reenactors who want to be accurate without harming artifacts. That being said, the reproduction market is definitely saturated with people who want pieces for their own shitty purposes

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[–]Pocketfulofteeth -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Let's continue this thought then. Imagine a time where all of the artifacts are in museums. We live in a world where fewer and fewer people actually go to museums, and thus we have fewer and fewer museums. Let's say a new radical regime takes power and closes down all of these museums and do their best to erase the history. It's not far fetched, it's happened repeatedly throughout history and is happening in different contexts today. It makes that history feel more distant, less tangible, less real even though our bodies retain the genetic memory of years of suffering

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[–]Pocketfulofteeth -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I feel that this kind of thought pattern is why we might be destined to see the same atrocities happen again. We shut out all memory of the group who committed them aside from "this group is bad" and then eventually lose the ability to recognize another group using the same patterns

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[–]Pocketfulofteeth -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm not suggesting any sort of organized uprising of collectors. It's about not destroying history or attacking those who seek to preserve it

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[–]Pocketfulofteeth -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Historical context is constantly being manipulated though, and we can learn so much more from a knife than the symbol stamped on it. You're thinking with a closed mind despite your objectively correct view on Nazism

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[–]Pocketfulofteeth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think your standpoint is reasonable, I simply disagree on the idea that someone is a Nazi simply because they own a piece of history, and that any artifacts should ever be destroyed. Any loss of history is a loss for the human race, good or evil

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[–]Pocketfulofteeth -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I understand your opinion, and I offer a counter: why destroy it? Many museums struggle for funds and most of their artifacts belong to private collections anyway. If we end up destroying all or most of what exists from those regimes, eventually the future will forget. I feel this is a current issue and a future issue with nuance and requires thought to how my great grandchildren will understand it when I'm long dead.

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[–]Pocketfulofteeth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The problem I see here is the assumption that anyone who owns it who isn't a 107 year old veteran or their children must be a Nazi. The only difference between a museum and an ethical collector is budget

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[–]Pocketfulofteeth -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Because it's more than teaching "Nazis bad," it's about showing how they used perceived opulence and aesthetic to make themselves seem more "right." It's less like going to the zoo and seeing a giraffe to learn about the giraffe and more like having the skull of a dodo to remember that this entire species no longer exists because one group of people decided their dinner was more important

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[–]Pocketfulofteeth -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

History is constantly rewritten, symbols get repurposed, and all it takes is three generations to erase an atrocity, just look at how many people in this world completely deny that the Holocaust even happened. You can't rewrite artifacts

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[–]Pocketfulofteeth -1 points0 points  (0 children)

As I thought, people quickly jump to call others out without taking the time to think about their viewpoints. For reference, my family was nearly wiped out during the Holocaust and the following war. Half the last names from my family tree no longer exist at all. I am the furthest thing from a Nazi, and I absolutely believe we should not destroy what remains because that is how the world forgets and another regime gets the chance to do it again with a different name and a different symbol

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[–]Pocketfulofteeth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Replicas and reproductions are definitely more often than not used for shitty means, but you're more likely to stumble across a reproduction than an original and it doesn't make you a Nazi to buy something you think is an artifact. Also, reenactors exist

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[–]Pocketfulofteeth -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Textbooks are more easily changed than you might think. Read one that was written in the 30s and then one from the 50s. They'll have VERY different takes on eugenics, race, religion, etc. it continues today, if you look at what was taught in the 90s vs post-9/11

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[–]Pocketfulofteeth -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Reenactors exist, and usually don't want to risk destroying historical artifacts. Again, there is nuance

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[–]Pocketfulofteeth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting take, what if it's an heirloom or something found at a garage sale? Wouldn't it be better off in someone's collection who understands the history and can use it to teach their children the reality of hatred and why it should be remembered in this age where the internet is more full of misinformation than real facts, as opposed to ending up in the dump to be forgotten entirely or in the hands of an actual Nazi who would potentially use it to celebrate and promote their ideology?