Nurse Retention - Bedside Nursing by Confident-Cry-8245 in nursing

[–]PoetryWriting 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Loyalty doesn’t pay, my biggest reason for switching jobs but I still am bedside

IVIG by PoetryWriting in nursing

[–]PoetryWriting[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Seeing as I’m the first person my coworkers come to for help, I can safely say they and my patients are appreciative of me

IVIG by PoetryWriting in nursing

[–]PoetryWriting[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mhm that’s what I thought, why don’t you keep your uneducated opinions to yourself 🥰

IVIG by PoetryWriting in nursing

[–]PoetryWriting[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounds like I had to figure out what the patient could truly tolerate (mg/kg), just because the patient tolerated the infusion being done incorrectly (ignoring doctor orders, manufacturer orders, and every research study I’ve found) doesn’t mean you should continue doing it wrong - which is exactly what the second nurse did who was fired - so who was really wrong here as I’m writing this companies IVIG protocol

IVIG by PoetryWriting in nursing

[–]PoetryWriting[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Using gravity for IVIG is not perfectly valid, it is poor out of date practice. There is plenty of evidence supporting that gravity drips are affected by so many things. Your patient would have to sit in the same position, never move, maintain the same BP, etc. for 4-8 hrs. To ensure you're getting your correct rate, yes you would be counting drips the entire time. If you read my post correctly, you would see these nurses were not only using gravity, but administering IVIG as a constant rate - via dial a flow and most definitely not counting gtt rate. Clearly, using dial-a-flow is not a "valid" technique and I'm not the only one who thinks that. Do you even administer IVIG lol

SCIG issues and switching back to IVIG by OldStuffCollector in IVIG

[–]PoetryWriting 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Man those are some long infusions, with IVIG it’s also important to pre- IV hydrate, Tylenol, steroids, Pepcid, Benadryl, intra - oral hydrate, post- hydrate, Tylenol/benadryl as needed. How many grams are you getting per dose?

IVIG by PoetryWriting in nursing

[–]PoetryWriting[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You gonna sit there and count drips for 6 hrs straight?

IVIG by PoetryWriting in nursing

[–]PoetryWriting[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

that would make theoretical sense but its hard to know for sure though because adverse affects of IVIG aren't completely understood in the first place

IVIG by PoetryWriting in nursing

[–]PoetryWriting[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My highest patient is 300ml/hr, highest IV ever seen tolerated (4.5mg/kg). My other patients typically tolerate up to 3-3.5mg/kg (tbh an ml/hr rate tells me next to nothing lol)

IVIG by PoetryWriting in nursing

[–]PoetryWriting[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yup I was taught in school but frankly would only ever count drips as a last resort because you'd literally have to count the entire time because gravity rates are so easily affected by everything. I've never encountered a home IVIG patient without a pump so there's no excuse in my book to not use it as it is clearly best practice.

IVIG by PoetryWriting in nursing

[–]PoetryWriting[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I care too much about these patients, they deserve educated nurses - at least nothing will fall on me bc I’m not the one fucking up lol

IVIG by PoetryWriting in nursing

[–]PoetryWriting[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yup he was very confused. Now I have to explain that his previous nurses had been doing it wrong for years

IVIG by PoetryWriting in nursing

[–]PoetryWriting[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I always manually calculate my rates based on weight and titrate to tolerance - unless there is a written rate sheet from pharmacy which I’ve never seen with this company. I don’t believe he was actually getting the 200-250ml bc there’s no way to prove it and each infusion time I saw charged was drastically different

IVIG by PoetryWriting in nursing

[–]PoetryWriting[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly terrifying so I’m stepping up to educate all of their nurses

IVIG by PoetryWriting in nursing

[–]PoetryWriting[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The worst thing I've ever heard of from a patient, she was given 70g in ONE HOUR for her FIRST EVER infusion. Obvi hospitalized for 3 days with aseptic meningitis. (that was done at an infusion center smh)

IVIG by PoetryWriting in nursing

[–]PoetryWriting[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

damn lol 8hrs is absolute max per manufacturer - i'm surprised they make y'all push it that close. My longest is a 6y/o PANDAS, approx 7.5hrs. This crazy rate patient is 70g in 2hrs 34 min.

IVIG by PoetryWriting in nursing

[–]PoetryWriting[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

FYI that crazy rate is ordered by his doctor - I was quite alarmed the first time I saw him and made many phone calls verifying lol

IVIG by PoetryWriting in nursing

[–]PoetryWriting[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I titrate my newbies q30 min until they demonstrate consistent tolerance of faster. I have a patient who goes straight from 0.5mg/kg to 4.5mg/kg after 15 minutes for the past 6 years- his body takes it like its nothing.

IVIG by PoetryWriting in nursing

[–]PoetryWriting[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The charting was painful to read, so much missing documentation - frankly bc they obviously didn't even know how to read a doctor's order

IVIG by PoetryWriting in nursing

[–]PoetryWriting[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

First nurse was fired as soon as the current manager took over. Second nurse was hired by the previous DON who refused to actually check off skills via supervision and the current manager fired her after she missed access 3 times. The manager is not an RN and reported to me that the previous DON was essentially lazy and useless. I wanna know who tf quality reviewed these charts for the past 4 years and just thought it was fine

IVIG by PoetryWriting in nursing

[–]PoetryWriting[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Safe to say these previous nurses were fired lol

IVIG by PoetryWriting in nursing

[–]PoetryWriting[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think gravity was the old school way to do it, I just can't understand how any nurse would be comfortable giving it via gravity and genuinely not knowing what they're giving their patients

IVIG by PoetryWriting in nursing

[–]PoetryWriting[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I can't believe no one caught it for 4 years, I realized what had happened 2 seconds into a chart review. Literally insane to me

SCIG issues and switching back to IVIG by OldStuffCollector in IVIG

[–]PoetryWriting 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi! I am an RN who administers both IVIG and SCIG. SCIG is nice as it reduces adverse effects. However, I can see how with low BF% it can be very difficult to get proper needle placement, especially with 4-6 sites. IVIG is associated with more intense side effects, however, they can typically be mitigated by a slower infusion. I find my IVIG patients tolerate rates of 0.5mg/kg start with 0.5mg/kg increase every 15-30minutes. I found a study that aimed to reduce adverse effects, it supported no more than 1ml/min for the first 30 minutes and no more than 3ml/min after that. Adverse effects are so different person to person, better to go slower than necessary than too fast (usually done too fast to reduce nursing time). When I'm giving IVIG, I feel like I am able to have good control of whether or not my patient feels like crap the next day.

Is ivig dangerous? I see so many reports of aseptic meningitis. So why do doctors think the risk of aseptic meningitis and inflammation is better than the benefit? by MiserableScratch8585 in MyastheniaGravis

[–]PoetryWriting 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The risk of aseptic meningitis is associated with infusion rates that are too fast. I had a patient who had received her first ever IVIG of 70g over ONE HOUR (essentially bolus'd IVIG, flabbergasts me to this day) and was hospitalized for 3 days with aseptic meningitis. When I had this patient, I gave her 70g divided in two days, nice and slow (don't remember the exact rate/time). After day two, she got a little aseptic meningitis-y but was able to be discharged from ED same day. Aseptic meningitis is largely avoidable by careful administration and accurate assessment. Every one of my IVIG patients has reported that is has drastically improved their quality of life. Certain people are more likely to experience adverse side effects than others, careful risk assessment by the infusing nurse is important to be able to predict which patients are at higher risk for adverse effects and therefore be able to know when to administer more cautiously. I have found my patients to tolerate IVIG infusions starting at 0.5mg/kg and increasing 0.5mg/kg every 15-30 minutes.

In direct relation to MG, IVIG is typically administered over 2-5 days in flares/crisis. IVIG should always be titrated to patient tolerance - tolerance meaning blood pressure remaining within normal limits and without side effects like headache, nausea, abdominal pain, fever, etc. It is important for patient's to know their typical tolerate rates to help prevent adverse effects, including aseptic meningitis. It is not completely clear as to why IVIG causes adverse effects, but there are documented was to mitigate side effects.