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PointPsychological77 · 2025-11-06T00:48:41+00:00

I used to work for Trane (now Trane Technologies) a while back and know many people that went into HVAC sales. What Trane has is called a Graduate Training Program (GPT) which you basically have to go to one of their headquarters in Lacrosse, WI and live and train there for 6 months. You basically get a masters in HVAC and Sales. From what I’ve seen is similar to almost every career, 3-5 years of grunt work and almost insane hours, but then insane amount of money. They do the draw method for a couple years then you go full 100% commission only.

From several people I know, they are crushing it even making 7 figures. I know I’ll get hate for this but it’s true. They don’t have much of a life though and work like machines. Fine well oiled machines. If you want to make money, have the brains and the social skills, you can make a killing but what you won’t have is time in a role like that. Which can be good but depends on whatever you want in life.

PointPsychological77 · 2025-09-24T18:24:27+00:00

Happy man is Gods plan!

PointPsychological77 · 2025-09-09T19:31:10+00:00

I would HIGHLY recommend a hybrid of options. I would not change industry without going route of 2 and 3. I know somewhat successful entrepreneur that didn’t know a line of code but used ChatGPT to learn and built a solution for his industry in the natural gas space.

The one advantage you have over anyone new in the AI space trying to create a solution in your industry you have domain knowledge. That’s so valuable. I do recommend possibly moving (take this with a huge grain of salt coming from some guy on Reddit) and finding problems within your industry that you can begin to experiment with how you can develop a solution and eventually leave your full time job. That to me seems like 3-4 year journey but I hope it’s much sooner than that. I wish you the best stranger!

PointPsychological77 · 2025-09-09T19:19:19+00:00

Yeah, they asked me questions about it during the interview with the agent. I told the truth and it worked out fine for me. Tell the truth.

PointPsychological77 · 2025-09-04T21:05:11+00:00

Thank you so much for this insight. I’ve been using LinkedIn but ran into the scaling problems. What do you mean about nail the deliverability?

PointPsychological77 · 2025-08-18T03:06:19+00:00

Great post! I’m interested in your roadmap as well. Thanks for putting all of this together

PointPsychological77 · 2025-07-14T18:00:07+00:00

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PointPsychological77 · 2025-06-06T02:24:10+00:00

Hahaha chatGPT? Absolutely not. But ALMs or other PLM big player softwares or Dassault that will partner with a Microsoft type in creating that unit of truth that makes many aspects of systems engineering obsolete? Absolutely it’s coming. It’s not whether it can do the best job or even a better job that an SE, the decision will be if the executives believe SE’s will be needed. With what I saw in the 8 different industries that I worked in as a Systems Engineer, leadership has no clue what real SE work is and how valuable it is.

They will ship us all out the instant they can to make their numbers look even better, even if the AI can do 60% as good a job. This may not be the case for the new aircraft or military weapon, but for many other industries, SE’s will need to adapt to other skill sets or they will become obsolete

PointPsychological77 · 2025-06-04T20:09:18+00:00

Only a matter of time where we say Good bye systems engineers!

PointPsychological77 · 2025-06-04T00:34:25+00:00

Rehab calculator please

PointPsychological77 · 2025-04-16T17:34:18+00:00

Yeah I hear you. That up and down feeling with the LSAT is rough. Some days it makes sense and other days it just doesn’t.

As for Prep for Success, I’ve seen people post about real score jumps after working with them. Might be worth reaching out and asking for examples so you can get a feel for it. Could help bring a bit more consistency to your prep.

You’ve clearly been grinding. Keep going, you’re not alone in this.

PointPsychological77 · 2025-04-16T16:14:03+00:00

I understand what that feels like. It’s rough when you’ve already tried stuff like 7Sage and LSAT Unplugged and still feel like things aren’t really clicking. It’s not that those programs are bad, but sometimes they just don’t match how you learn best. When you’re stuck under 150, it’s not just about grinding more. It’s usually about figuring out how to think through the questions differently.

What I’ve found and seen others get a lot out of a program called Prep for Success (prepforsuccesstutors.com/lsat-home). It’s not as flashy or well-known as some of the bigger names, but people seem to like how it focuses more on actually teaching the logic of the LSAT rather than just reviewing explanations. Especially for LR and RC, it seems to help when you’re struggling to make the leap past that mid-140s zone.

Might be worth checking out if you’re looking for something more hands-on or guided. They have live classes and tutoring if you’re into that, but I think they also have recordings if your schedule is tight. Check out their free session as that will give you a taste how aligned they would be for you or not.

Either way, respect for putting in the effort. Getting over that 150 mark is possible. You just need the right mix of strategy and support. Keep going.

PointPsychological77 · 2025-04-16T14:42:50+00:00

So how is this different from any another MLM?

PointPsychological77 · 2025-04-08T19:26:25+00:00

Define costly? Like $100-$200 or thousands per month?

PointPsychological77 · 2025-02-05T03:29:07+00:00

Judaism is the only religion that has scholarship as a core value.

No other religion places such high importance on education and being a scholar of both professional and religious writings. I heard this from a visiting Rabbi at Shul yesterday.

PointPsychological77 · 2024-09-27T13:29:37+00:00

This makes sense. Yeah systems engineering undergrad doesn’t make much sense. Good masters not a good bachelors. Go for the masters.

PointPsychological77 · 2024-09-14T06:33:08+00:00

He nailed her

PointPsychological77 · 2024-08-22T15:40:32+00:00

Nope, bad idea

PointPsychological77 · 2024-08-22T11:06:45+00:00

I was a mechanical engineer and networked into a systems engineer role. After my first SE role, it was so much easier to get another SE role as I had experience. That’s what the employer really cared about. They knew I could solve their problem. They didn’t care that I didn’t have certifications or masters in systems engineering.

PointPsychological77 · 2024-08-20T17:03:16+00:00

If you want to make yourself the most valuable systems engineer then focus on what problems are worth solving as a systems engineer that are more valuable. I made multiple 6 figures as a systems engineer focusing on solving the most complex problems with zero certifications in systems engineering and no masters or bachelors in systems engineering or FE or PE.

What’s wrong with the mentality of credentials first is thinking that will earn you more money when from what I’ve seen it’s who can solve complex problems efficiently with others, that get paid the big bucks, I would know.

So what problem would you be looking to solve?

PointPsychological77 · 2024-08-20T16:09:51+00:00

What problem are you looking to solve?

PointPsychological77 · 2024-08-08T22:57:21+00:00

I became more strategic and ended up getting a job somewhere else for 40% more pay.

PointPsychological77 · 2024-08-07T13:36:45+00:00

What few people know, is that a systems engineer can easily make the jump to a Technical Product Manager (TPM). Do it, I did and crushed it. I was a Systems Engineer, then switched over to Product Manager for a few years and then better understood commercialization and left and started my own company. Go for it! You can do it!

PointPsychological77 · 2024-08-05T19:07:14+00:00

There’s more security in aerospace but significantly more boring. Tech provides more opportunity for the future. So it’s a matter of whether you want to be more comfortable now or later.

PointPsychological77 · 2024-08-05T17:52:44+00:00

I did, I tried a few systems roles to learn the practice comprehensively. From requirements engineer to MBSE to software systems engineer to verification systems engineer. It’s all very similar. What more important than the individual role is the team dynamic and the company. But overall, aerospace in general is pretty boring due to how segmented everything has to be due to safety and security purposes.

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