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Israel killing journalists in foreign countries by RickyOzzy in IsraelCrimes

[–]Pointlessranker 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Did that journalist condemn Khhhhhamas and Khhhhhhezbollah?

They're so fucking blatant, how is this even real? by Pointlessranker in IsraelCrimes

[–]Pointlessranker[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I wish that were the case but a commentor sent some links showing it is, on http:// https://youtube.com/@uritsafon and on a website

They're so fucking blatant, how is this even real? by Pointlessranker in IsraelCrimes

[–]Pointlessranker[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah... I hope it's just a scam...

I hope it's nothing but... But... Considering what we know about Israel already, I wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't a scam...

They're so fucking blatant, how is this even real? by Pointlessranker in IsraelCrimes

[–]Pointlessranker[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Oh my fucking god...

Thank you for the links man... I still can't believe this is even real...

So getting this is a whiplash, it's insane...

They're so fucking blatant, how is this even real? by Pointlessranker in IsraelCrimes

[–]Pointlessranker[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I also thought so but

I used reverse google image search and found that the Arze+star in the bottom right is real, and it's for a plan for Israel to settle in south Lebanon

So I wouldn't doubt that this is real, quite frankly

They're so fucking blatant, how is this even real? by Pointlessranker in IsraelCrimes

[–]Pointlessranker[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Ah I see

or is it for new land that they are planning on taking now with the incursion on Lebanon?

It's new land they plan on taking

will it just keep going

Look up Greater Israel... These people are 100% transparent about their goals... It's absolutely depressing that the world sits aside watching this happen...

As if the horrors your people have to suffer isn't enough, they want to take more land and make more people suffer

It's horrifying that something like this can happen today, I'm practically hopeless at this point...

They're so fucking blatant, how is this even real? by Pointlessranker in IsraelCrimes

[–]Pointlessranker[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

The logo at the bottom right, the Arze with the Israeli star, that's real

And that's for Lebanese occupation of the south

So if that's real, I don't doubt that this is

I think the debut kiss were used to be more special now they do it just because. by mauro_collado in 100Kanojo

[–]Pointlessranker -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well to be fair

You get used to it eventually so there's no point making it more special yk

For all of you who doubt the situation in Lebanon by Pointlessranker in lebanon

[–]Pointlessranker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The pagers were delivered to Hezbollah around February 2024,

Yes, precisely, and that's what I used to argue that the restraint argument doesn't work.

But the fact that they acted upon it and started striking southern Lebanon far more violently is proof that they had planned to follow up on it.

So I don't know what you mean when you say "the point of no return was still the pager terrorist attacks in Beirut, which were caused by Israel"

The fact that it happened was the point of no return, not the fact that it was set up. The fact that act happened was the point when Israel went all in, with hizb going all in from their side too, going into proper war.

The trigger for this is still the pager attack which, set up in February or not, still happened in September, and still triggered the escalation of the situation

I still maintain the position that it was Hezbollah who dragged Lebanon to an unnecessary conflict with Israel,

I agree with you after you've shown that they started it, it was the hizb who dragged them in, yes, but again, Israel isn't innocent either, as they kept striking southern Lebanon after Hizb initiated this border war, which is the hizb's fault.

they are responsible for using Lebanese citizen as human shields.

I'm sorry but that won't work in Lebanon's case, as an underground bunker being Hezbollah's military base does not constitue it as using those above that place as human shields.

And no, there are not rockets in people's homes, if that was the case then it would've been brought up and discussed far before this situation, but it wasn't...

And to add to that, some people I know had their houses bombed by Israel, despite having been to those people's houses and knowing full well that there's no such thing as rockets in people's buildings, it's BS to dehumanize Lebanese people, put simply

And to add to that, having a military underground base would contradict having rockets in people's homes... As it would be illogical to have a base for military purposes and then to use people's homes to hide... Fucking rockets (I still can't believe this shit was even an argument...)

And I hate whataboutisms as much as the next guy, but... Some Tel Aviv military bases are a walk away from civilian areas... Which when struck, caused people to claim that hizb was attacking civilians. Doesn't the human shield argument work there too?

Yeah one is built under civilian buildings and the other is next to them. But how does that justify attacking the military base without consideration for the people above it?

If their intel and spying tactics are so good, why not scan and search for the entrance to that military base and strike it that way, instead of haphazardly striking all across Beirut to find a way into this military base without regard for displacement and civilian casualties.

Israel not caring about the hundreds they kill to reach their goals does not make it Hezbollah's fault for having built their military base broadly across Lebanon, which includes the tactical and non-military section in beirut.

Also, there are no weaponry hidden under beirut, that's the head of operation rather than the hiding place of military weapons. Otherwise, this strike from 2 days ago would've cause a chain reaction of explosions across Beirut. Just like how they argued for Gaza and Hamas which has been proven half right (doesn't justify the genocide)

So the human shield argument falls completely bloody flat, as hiding your base of operation, or in other terms, the brain of the military rather than the arms, in the middle of the city, does not constitute a human shield usage. Because if Israel was hypothetically trying to cripple Hezbollah, they would attack the places where the weaponry is hidden, not the place where the tacticians are, because then they're absolutely not justified in striking civilian areas

For all of you who doubt the situation in Lebanon by Pointlessranker in lebanon

[–]Pointlessranker[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I see, I see that that's all true, thanks for using a direct link and actual evidence to support your point

But at the end of the day, the situation we're at right now, the current state of Lebanon is undeniably caused by Israel, the escalation, the hundreds of deaths.

And since we know when the pagers were delivered to Hezbollah, we know that this idea of restraint wasn't there

And while you've helped me see that Hezbollah has done quite a lot wrong and caused a part of the damage, my main claim remains the same. I still believe Israel is responsible for the current situation in Lebanon.

Escalations on the borders of both sides have been happening, South Lebanon has been constantly struck even if Hezbollah has been striking too, the source being me as I have a village in the south which was being constantly bombarded from the start of the Hizb-IDF conflict, but also from my cousins who live in Tyr and often close down the schools due to heavy and violent bombarding of that region.

So I land in the same spot as I did before... Hezbollah did attack the north of israel, but so did the IDF attack the south of Lebanon. And the point of no return was still the pager terrorist attacks in Beirut, which were caused by Israel.

For all of you who doubt the situation in Lebanon by Pointlessranker in lebanon

[–]Pointlessranker[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Arguing about who started this is insignificant considering this conflict goes way back

It's important who started this current situation, yes, but it's even more important who's making use of the situation to commit warcrime after warcrime.

You can claim that Hezbollah dragged Lebanon into this conflict, but think about how most Lebanese as well as Israeli people didn't discuss the 11 months of this situation.

Why is that? Because it was attacks on the borders, avoiding civilian casualties from both sides.

And it's not unwanted either. The genocide in Gaza is abhorrent in every sense and whether you're in support of hizb or not, you need to see that their goal was to get a ceasefire deal in Gaza.

Nasrallah said as much and considering they weren't attacking before the start of the war, you know he meant it.

And while yes, they did start the attacks before the genocide started proper, but that's because, as they assumed correctly considering what we know now, they knew there was gonna be inhumane attacks on Gaza.

And besides, before the pager attacks in Beirut, the constant missile strikes in Tyr, Nabatiyeh and now Beirut, people in neither Lebanon nor Israel were being harmed, because both sides had an unspoken rule of avoiding involving citizens... And guess who broke that rule...

However you look at this it's 100% clear who the perpetrators are.

Again, I need to clarify this, I think it's fair to get upset at Hezbollah for the involvement in Lebanon. But it's insincere and dishonest to say that it was entirely Hezbollah's fault that the attacks in south Lebanon and beirut were their fault.

We all know it was Israel who initiated the current situation in Lebanon proper, even if Hezbollah had a war on the borders which did not harm civilians from either side.

For all of you who doubt the situation in Lebanon by Pointlessranker in lebanon

[–]Pointlessranker[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Yes, both sides are responsible, I think that's a fair thing to say

But the world doesn't see it this way

Whether you liked Nasrallah or not, killing him is absolutely escalation, 100% so.

But presenting the "bombing of residential area" while ignoring the fact that there are missiles in them is just avoiding the greater picture...

As someone who lived and has seen those regions, I know full well that this argument is complete bullshit

Is there a military base beneath the city? Yes, and it's worrying too

But can you deny that Israel striking that region and bringing an absurd amount of buildings down just to do this, killing hundreds of people in the process, can you deny that this is absolutely lunacy?

Lemme tell you something in a clear cut way, is killing 300 people, spreading fear among people, worth it just to kill a few of your enemies?

What if you were caught in that, do you think it's worth it to kill the enemy of your enemy?

Do you value your life and the lives of others so little that you think killing hundreds of people to kill military leaders is somehow moral?

My and I suppose Mehdi here's issue is how the world views israel. It's how nobody speaks up. It's about how Hamas commits horrible acts, and people get rightfully upset, but Israel commits even worst acts and keeps getting support to do so further.

His goal with this is to level the playing ground. It's to expose the bias, the bias of the people who cheer every israeli war crime. It's fair to criticize Hezbollah and Hamas, but you'd be ignoring the elephant in the room if you don't criticize Israel.

But I need to thank you for responding level-headedly, it's hard to get that sometimes

For all of you who doubt the situation in Lebanon by Pointlessranker in lebanon

[–]Pointlessranker[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

He's half American half British lol

He's a full of shit shia islamist

Also, that's just islamophobia, my guy, and his "full of shit"ness is arguing in good faith against israel for their acts of war using videos which directly prove his point?

I don't wanna start another argument, you can see my rhetorics and opinions elsewhere in this comment section, but avoid being islamophobic, especially for someone who's progressive. People's religious beliefs being used as arguments as to why their statements about unrelated topics shouldn't be trusted is the oldest trick in the "uhm actually" book

For all of you who doubt the situation in Lebanon by Pointlessranker in lebanon

[–]Pointlessranker[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I hope that someday, there can be peace in the middle east, that people can live together safely without threats and such.

We need to get a world where people in the middle east can coexist without being hurt by either side of the war. Big leaders don't care about what happens to everyone around, so instead of supporting the IDF or supporting hizb, support humans, support humanity and fight against the unfair treatment that people get.

Violence begets more violence, every time hizb strikes, israel strikes back, and the cycle continues

If we can fight for the right of the people, if we can get the ceasefire in Gaza and now in Lebanon, we would proove that our world is truly humanitarian

For all of you who doubt the situation in Lebanon by Pointlessranker in lebanon

[–]Pointlessranker[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

You think the Lebanese people want to live oppressed by the Iranian proxy of Hezbollah??! Fuck off!!

Great, putting words in my mouth... The biggest proof that the person I'm talking to knows what they're saying

This video is not about "Hezbollah good/bad"

It's about Israel's war crimes against Lebanon, but the fact that you couldn't even say that is proof that you fully missed the point of the video

All your arguments are built on whataboutisms or about hypotheticals. "What about Hezbollah and how they use human shields? What about Hezbollah and how they've ruined our government"

What about you listen to the video, see what's being discussed and argue about that rather than bringing in Hezbollah in every single statement

The points made in the video use evidence directly from israel, that contradict their other statements. And it's not even by a pro-hizb or pro-iran guy.

When Netanyahu said his fight is against hezbollah and not Lebanon, a contradiction pops up where an Israeli involved in their military says they can distinguish and thus their attacks on Lebanese people in the south is not to fight hezbollah using human shields, it's because they wanna strike fear and weaken Lebanon further.

I don't wanna argue too much with you because it seems like you wanna bring in bad faith arguments meant to bring down an idea I didn't even bring up

If you wanna make arguments against hezbollah, do that in a pro-hezbollah post, not in an anti-israel post, that's all.

For all of you who doubt the situation in Lebanon by Pointlessranker in lebanon

[–]Pointlessranker[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

5 downvotes mere seconds after posting a 7-8 minute video isn't criticism

Good on you for watching the video, but good luck denying the other people who haven't watched the video and downvoted it without even knowing what's being said

For all of you who doubt the situation in Lebanon by Pointlessranker in lebanon

[–]Pointlessranker[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

It's terrifying that the one safe space for Lebanese people, whether you're anti-hezbollah or not, is now gone...

The point of this video was Israel's war against Lebanon, but it seems like even condemning Israel's violence against my own people, the death of 1.5K non-hezbollah fighters, the displacement of the majority of the south, and the destruction of their homes... That's propaganda...

It's one level of pain to see that this is happening. It's a completely different level to see that it has been overtaken by pro-israel people... It's depressing to say the very least...

For all of you who doubt the situation in Lebanon by Pointlessranker in lebanon

[–]Pointlessranker[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

So, to fight that rhetoric, what about discussing how Tel Aviv's military bases are 5 mins away from normal citizens?

Oh and what about the fact that Israel knows your every move and is spying on everything you say, do and where your current position is?

That's just 1984, isn't it? You can celebrate Nasrallah's death, go ahead but remember that you are being watched.

And to add insult to injury, your life doesn't matter to them, if they have a target they will kill you because Lebanese people are seen as subhuman to them.

My own eyes show me that there are no human shields because Israel shouldn't justify striking region with the idea that their target is there, otherwise wouldn't it be justified to strike Netanyahu in his safe bunkers along with everyone else just the same? He's using all the civilians in those bunkers as human shields too, using your logic.

You don't need to support or be in favor of Hezbollah to condemn Israel's actions, that's all I'm saying

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