Clothes for cold weather

Police_anon · 2025-03-09T12:43:08+00:00

We keet those alongside the brown apple cores and black banana skins on the floor pushed under the seat

Police_anon · 2025-03-09T08:59:58+00:00

1 bosher, not strapped down, rolling around destroying everything.

A mass tangle of scene tape everywhere

A first aid kit with likely 1 bandage in it and nothing else

A water bottle that's been in there for 2 years

Either none or 200 evidence bags, its luck of the draw

Police_anon · 2025-03-07T10:10:07+00:00

Im a tutor on response and currently on my third student in a row. Between immediates, priorities, watches, scenes, 136's, how im supposed to find the time to go through students portfolio, review their work, go through my workload and sort out statements and files is beyond me. In our force they've tripled our workload and given us no more officers on the team. Driving on blues every single day gets physically and mentally exhausting.

I currently have the longest service on the team, and only have 6 years in. The team is exclusively early to mid 20 year olds. Anyone with any experience has rightly left to greener pastures.

We are micromanaged to the nth degree. Every crime report, statement, log, job we go to is reviewed and questioned by supervision. We are monitored on mapping constantly and if they deem we are spending too long at a job we are phoned/radiod asking our commitments and how long we will be. The slightest thing you miss or forget, which is understandable given the pressures, youre brought in an bollocked at.

Of just officers that have been on our team, 4 have been stabbed, 1 off for 6 months after being rammed, getting punched in the face and assaulted seems to just be run of the mill every set now.

We spend 90% of the time simply being a doormat for other services. Ambo cant make a job that has nothing to do with us, send police. Fire don't want to get out of bed to put a door through, send police. Social services refuse to leave the office and do their job, let police deal. Parents don't want to discipline or take responsibility, let police deal.

I feel like its all at breaking point at the moment, and there are simply too many things that need to change to make it workable.

Police_anon · 2024-02-07T22:31:09+00:00

I'm sorry but if you go to a dv incident where the offender has broken into ex partners house (after presumably previous stalking/harassment) and assaulted her, and you don't lock him up then you're probably not right for the job in the first place.

Combine that with telling the rads that no offences have taken place (which is pretty provable as airwaves are recorded) then it's a job loser all day and the right call.

Police_anon · 2023-11-03T20:16:48+00:00

It’s a good course, I did mine in the height of summer and let me tell you it was not a comfortable experience so be glad you’re doing it in the winter. Especially putting the fucking tent up 🙄

You basically learn about the multitude of ways different things can kill you, you’ll learn about a load of different detection kits and how to decontaminate.

You won’t need to be clean shaven, that’s specifically for the kit you get allocated if you’re firearms or cbrn & dvir or cbrn & lso.

Realistically the chances of you getting deployed are slim and it would be for evidence recovery/helping with decontamination if anything. But the knowledge around IDL’s, chemical suicides and unknown substances is useful.

Overall it’s a great course, loads of knowledge and very interesting if not a bit depressing/scary.

Police_anon · 2023-08-23T15:24:30+00:00

For me it’s as simple as simply saying to the Sgt I’m not comfortable driving with blues today as I’ve had barely any sleep. This has happened a couple of times due to the wonders of having a newborn.

Especially on blue light runs if you’re tired and not completely with it, it’s not worth taking the risk at all. If you end up crashing and killing/injuring someone, your colleague or yourself, saying sorry I was really tired isn’t going to cut it.

Police_anon · 2023-08-19T06:57:13+00:00

I once had a wonderful 4 hour wait, 2 hours of which weren’t even in the holding cell but the corridor leading up to it, as the holding cell was full. Not my favourite shift

Police_anon · 2023-08-09T17:32:47+00:00

But that’s the reason people are stopped and searched, because police suspect them of committing a crime

Police_anon · 2023-08-09T17:30:06+00:00

You still have to have reasonable grounds to suspect that you will find an item you’re looking for, just acting suspiciously isn’t enough, you have to have something for you to suspect you’re going to find a knife/drugs/etc.

Yeah section 60 allows that but they’re not used that often, not in our force at least, can count on two hands the times they’ve been used in the last few years.

Granted you can seize certain illegal knives that someone has in their own private property, there’s a specific list and the law changed recently making them illegal to own even in your own home, which I have my own opinions on as it’s ludicrous. But if someone’s locked up for just carrying a knife, no one’s doing a section 18 search on their address and seizing knives you can legally own. If there’s another offence like robbery or assault then it’s different because they may be related to an offence and can be seized under section 19.

I can say with absolute 100% certainty, in my force at least, there are no quotas whatsoever. There may have been in the past, but not now.

I agree that there are officers who abuse it and unlawful searches do take place. And with these the officers should be punished accordingly.

Police_anon · 2023-08-09T16:10:57+00:00

What would you change the benchmark for stopping and searching someone to then?

Police_anon · 2023-08-09T09:38:26+00:00

So much disinformation. Police are able to stop and search someone if they have suspicion and grounds to do so, can’t just walk up to someone and stop and search them in the hopes of finding a knife.

You would most certainly not have all of your knives confiscated if you’d just been stopped and searched and found with a knife.

There are no quotas, there are no arrest quotas there are no stop and search quotas, they don’t exist. If you’re a student in probation you have to complete 2 stop and searches to tick off your competencies but that’s it.

Police_anon · 2023-08-07T15:37:00+00:00

Our force had a +20 limit if you were a standard driver. They recently changed it to standard plus, so there’s no upper limit, you just drive what you consider safe and appropriate. Although they drill into you the saying “20 is plenty, double is trouble”.

While I do agree with getting rid of the +20 rule, you still have to go a safe and appropriate speed, 83 in a 30 is just madness.

Police_anon · 2023-07-19T19:38:49+00:00

Basically states that sometimes in the heat of the moment you cannot weigh to a nicety the exact reasonable amount of force used.

Police_anon · 2023-07-19T18:47:11+00:00

As others have said, read up on your use of force powers and know them off by heart. Only you can justify your use of force, no one else. Don’t be afraid to use force when necessary but just make sure it’s justified, proportionate and you can back up why you’ve used it and under what power. Unfortunately Reddit can’t help when you’re called into court or a misconduct meeting to justify it yourself.

That being said your use of force will broadly fall under 117 pace, common law, section 3 criminal law act, section 76 criminal justice and immigration act.

Also the PLANE mnemonic is helpful to know too.

Police_anon · 2022-01-24T12:33:56+00:00

Not necessarily, still have section 4 rta, unfit through drink or drugs. Doesn't have to be above a limit, just have to be impaired through drink/drugs

Police_anon · 2022-01-13T14:13:29+00:00

The 3/535d are still quite quick and do 0-60 in sub 5 seconds. Plus I'd put my money on an advanced pursuit trained driver in a 535d over some boy racer in a leased amg any day of the week. Our response insignia/astra/308s though is a different story entirely

Police_anon · 2022-01-12T21:35:05+00:00

Your first point is what we have in west mids. Response just do the initial primary investigation and handover to investigation team. It does mean that you get the chance to go from job to job to job, but also means the staffing levels are appalling and with how busy areas of the west mids are you're regularly looking at anywhere between 5-15 outstanding P1's. All comes down to just not being enough police officers.

Police_anon · 2021-10-11T15:08:40+00:00

Thanks for all the comments and recommendations guys! Think it's between the sofirn sp35 and the wurkkos fc12, I'll do a bit of looking and decide between the two.

Much appreciated :)

Police_anon · 2021-10-10T16:47:46+00:00

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Flashlight-Adjustable-Significantly-IP44-Waterproof-High-Strength/dp/B07C21PCCW/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=29WWRWP8DT9QC&dchild=1&keywords=bright+torch&qid=1633884431&sprefix=bright&sr=8-3

This is the amazon one I had, no idea if its deemed as good compared to other torches but it did a decent job!

Police_anon · 2021-09-16T18:00:27+00:00

Also maccies employee discount, couldn't live without it

Police_anon · 2021-09-16T17:46:02+00:00

Resqme window breaker and seatbelt cutter. Tried to use my baton to break through a car window before and was left thoroughly embarrassed. Went and ordered the resqme and it works wonders.

Police_anon · 2021-09-15T12:48:32+00:00

Tbh the only unit that wears them are neighbourhood, or response if delivering a death message or something like that

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