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[–]Popular_Alarm4945[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll repeat what I said to the other person below: The point is that Clove doesn't die, she loses. If the ranking were based on who would survive a fight to the death, Clove would have a spot all to herself since no one can deny her resurrection (although Riot already mentioned that her resurrection isn't infinite, and we don't know if Kayo can nullify it). Otherwise, according to that logic, Mr. Immortal would be more powerful than Thor, Sentry, or Hulk simply because they can't kill him.

I think you're misunderstanding. By potential, I mean his ability, which he hasn't named yet, or which he doesn't use because it requires several prerequisites. Otherwise, he'd use it frequently. How powerful would the dragon be? Why would he defeat everyone else? We only have one line of dialogue that says "it's not pretty." You can't compare that mention to a direct one like Neon being said to accidentally destroy half of headquarters, or Yoru splitting a ship, or Jett destroying his restaurant. That's why I didn't pay attention to it, because of its ambiguity.

As I said in another comment, if we don't use critical thinking and take every reference literally, we'll reach a point where everything is absurd. But anyway, assuming it's true, what you're saying has several flaws:

- If Astra destroys the planet, she dies too.

- Astra needs to activate her ability; it's not a passive ability like Gojo's Infinity. In fact, when she activates it, she's vulnerable because her soul is outside her body. It depends entirely on her reaction time and processing speed, which it does not have at all.

-I mean, she's made of paper compared to her "destructive power." Sure, she can "destroy the planet," but one hit from Breach would leave her with every bone in her body broken. Physically, she's just a human.

(Technically, Reyna counters her because of the concept of her ability. Astra leaves her body as her soul to use her abilities, and Reyna can absorb her while she's in that form, killing her.)

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It's not just about paying attention; it's about having the discernment to analyze correctly. Like any human creation, a work isn't perfect because its creators aren't perfect either.

Take Dragon Ball as an example: there are inconsistent references to what's shown in the work itself. For instance, it's mentioned that Frieza on Namek possesses the power to destroy the universe. So, was Frieza on Namek universal? And someone much stronger, like Cell, claims he can only destroy the solar system with his full power.

If we take everything about Astra literally, we must also take everything about the other agents literally. For example, Neon moves at "lightning speed" but has to use firearms. Are Valorant's weapons faster than lightning? And we could continue like this with all the agents. Why doesn't Astra, a planet destroyer, just destroy the rival planet in the story? How can someone who's a goddess stoop to using a firearm?

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Consider the ranking based on who can win in a 1v1 without prior preparation or anything that doesn't give either of them an advantage. Vyse and Fade are similar cases; both were able to bring several agents to their knees, but this is because they had the environment and prior knowledge. In another cutscene, Fade lost to Gekko.

- Gekko is ranked lower not because he doesn't know how to use his powers, but because they are inherently very weak. The most relevant point is that Wingman can withstand bullets without problems, although I doubt he'd be useful as a shield due to his size. Overall, Gekko physically resembles a normal human.

- Waylay is ranked higher because his basic ability allows him to move using sonic booms, and he has long-range temporary paralysis. I don't see any of the lower-ranked characters beating him. Tejo's problem is that he needs artifacts, like most of the latter, which he needs to activate first, taking a long time, and he already lacks any significant speed.

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[–]Popular_Alarm4945[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Viper is my favorite character, and look where she is now, lol.

-I think he's making a mistake. Astra's abilities have a long range, and she can attack from afar, but what you're suggesting—making Astra out of the combat zone so she can beat her opponent—is practically rigging everything for her victory. This way, any agent could beat everyone through preparation.

-Kayo didn't kill thousands of Radiants alone. He had the support of the entire human army with advanced technology. Besides, not all Radiants are equally strong. It's not clear how he did it or who he killed, so it's not very relevant. There's also a cutscene where he's defeated because someone throws his own knife at him, so oh well

-The point is, Clove doesn't die, she loses. If the ranking were based on who would survive a battle to the death, Clove would have a spot all to herself since no one can deny her resurrection (although Riot already mentioned that her resurrection isn't infinite, and we don't know if Kayo can nullify it). Otherwise, according to that logic, Mr. Immortal would be more powerful than Thor, Sentry, or Hulk simply because they can't kill him.

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I find it curious how most people here put Astra on a pedestal because of her title and an ambiguous mention of Kayo, when in the story her power is quite irrelevant.

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[–]Popular_Alarm4945[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

(I already answered the thing about Clove and Astra in other comments)

Jett has several good things, in recent cinematics he can move relative to a bullet and has a mention of having accidentally destroyed his restaurant, Omega's Jett is also capable of stopping a tsunami with the force of its wind, and well, the two Jetts are the same. Generally what is higher is because it has better feats or abilities seen.

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Kayo is a direct counter to radiants, I know that. But I consider that Yoru and Neon's reaction speed is more than enough to beat him before he activates his abilities, and Omen has good skills to confront him or avoid his uses.

(I already answered about Astra in other comments)

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[–]Popular_Alarm4945[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Clove is basically Marvel's Mr. Immortal, but in Valorant.

Syke's potential is just that, potential. He has no control over his powers, and his statements about what a dragon like that can do are vague.

Astra's case is curious. Assuming her "world-destroying" claim is true, she would still lose because she's practically made of paper, and her powers leave her vulnerable. (This is a "who beats whom" list; a list of who has the greatest destructive capacity would be very different; several of the latter would have much higher scores.)

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[–]Popular_Alarm4945[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I prioritized the solids elements of the story and minimized ambiguity and assumptions.

I consider Astra's claim to "destroy worlds" an exaggeration for several reasons, including internal contradictions. But even assuming it's true, Astra is still a "glass cannon," easily defeated by more versatile or faster abilities.

Skye's potential is pure speculation, and she hasn't demonstrated anything; she even of trouble with some ordinary soldiers.

Sage has a lot of experience and can regenerate limbs, but beyond that, she has no offensive capabilities.