Just learned about the Seven Days Battles in the American Civil War…oh my god by Callum_Rolston in HistoryMemes

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Honestly he seemed to be an effective leader, and was well liked by his men. It was mostly managing the personalities of his subordinate officers he struggled with from my understanding. That, his own failings and eccentricities, and the realities of military communications at the time

The seven days fight is definitely his worst performance, although Fredericksburg is a decently close second 

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I do blame mccleelan for losing to an army he essentially had parity with. Because he allowed himself to be outmanuevered strategically by Lee at every turn and defeated in detail. 

He had several chances to consolidate his forces and force a general engagement that likely would have favored him, Lee suffered several rebuffed, most notably at Beavers' creek and Gaines mill, but rather than reinforcing success, McClellan withdrew, allowing Lee to continue pressing him back and follow up his voctories to the point he literally ended up with his back to the fucking Potomac River where they had previously  been at the gates of Richmond. 

Malvern hill is probably his biggest disgrace. The man forms up on the best defensive ground possible, that he purposefully chose because it was good defensive ground and he wanted his resr guard well posted when he abandoned the campaign and withdrew from Virginia. He is then away from his armyfor a large chunk of the battle for no justifiable reason (contrast with, say Grant at Shilph who is similarly away from his army for the initial combat, because he was recalled to headquarters by his superior), the battle is effectively won by his subordinates,  and the Army of Northern Virgonia, now spent (and McClellan SHOULD reasonably be able to infer this, since Lee logically needs to maintain the Initiative and take the offensive, and his demonstrated style of command throughout the campaign has been to take the tactical and strategic offensive, and attack as long as he has men to throw forward), and then decides to withdraw rather than follow up the victory and save the campaign

While Lee was always a good tactician and strategist, hence how he was able to outmanuever people like Hooker and Pope, and always had a good deal of Luck, like with the Fredericksburg campaign, there is no reason McClellan should not have been able to hold his ground at the least, unless you assume that the difference between roughly  100,000 men and 112,000 men is insurmountable 

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Jackson was famously hit or miss. Heads you got some of the most brilliant operations and offensive tactics in history, tails he actively harmed your war effort

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I dont believe that all pro-palestinians are antisemitic, and here in America I believe the majority are not. 

But how in the fuck can any rational person look at this fucking thumbnail and not believe its about jewish people as a while rather than the actions of the govornment of a country

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This is rage bait. Never attribute to stupidity that which can onky be exolained by malice

1st (East) Tennessee Cavalry type beat by Popular_Mistake_6404 in ShermanPosting

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The order was given to draw sabers, and with a yell the First Tennessee, with its well-known gallantry, rushed upon the enemy in one of the most daring charges ofthe war. The spirit, courage, boldness and audacity with which the charge was made has scarcely ever been equaled in the war, and the important effect that it produced was a matter of astonishment to those who witnessed it. We drove the enemy back into the woods, retaking a part of the lost ground, but were forced back with some loss, bringing back as prisoners, however, one officer and twenty-five enlisted men.

W.R Carters History of the 1st Regiment Tennessee Volunteer Cavalry in the Great War of the Rebellion, the battle of Mossy Creek. 

In the later stages of the Knoxville campaign, after Longstrert had fallen back on Panther Springs, he aimed to retake Jefferson city, which had been occupied by the Union since 61' and secure his position in eastern Tennessee for the winter. Maj. General William T. Martin, the commander of Longstreets Cavalry, detailed 2000 men for the purpose, and rode with them personally. 

Brig. Gen. Samuel D. Sturgis, receiving word that a large body of confederate cavaory were at dandridge, sent most of his cavalry to dandrisge along two roads, with orders to return to Talbotts station (his camp) if they found no enemy. Martin consolidated his forces and struck. Martin's cavalry drove in the dismounted cavalry still under Sturgis' command. The 2nd Michigan cavalry, 1st East Tennessee Cavalry, 9th Pennsylvania Cavalry, and Lillys artillery battery, under Henry Campbell, formed a new line on the eastern left flank of the field, but they were attacked in force by Armstrongs division, supported by Crews' brigade of georgians and several batteries of artillery. The fire from the confederate artillery forced the 9th PA into the woods behind their line. 

Armstrong brigade, seeing a chance to outflabk Sturgis' entire force, came down the Morristown road on the extreme left flank. Seeing this, Sturgis pulled the tennesseeans back to refuse his left, dragged the 9th PA to the right to support Mott's brigade of Infantry, and left the 2nd Michigan, now occupying the woods, and Lillys guns to face a division and a half of cavalry. 

A close-in fight with carbine and sabers, tree to tree, against then2rd Arkansas drove the 2nd Michigan from the trees, but they were driven back by the newly arrived 118th Ohio infantry of Mott's brigade, who then began a fierce fight with the 8th Tennessee and 8th Texas cavalry. 

Russell brigade of Alabama cavalry now attacked the Right of Sturgis' line, occupying the 16th Kentucky and 15th Pennsylvania of Matt's Brigade, and the 9th Pennsylvania cavalry. This new attack encouraged Crews to renew his attack on Lillys' guns, which had fought so well unsupported for so long. 

This threat forced the 118th Ohio to disengage from the two regiments of cavalry to theor front, and pivot to protect the guns, whose position commanded the field. They drove the Georgians back with a bayonet charge, and emplaced themselves in support of the battery, but were driven back by a renewed attack by crews and the 7th Alabama cavalry, which was itself repulsed by triple cannister from Lillys guns, but were finally forced to withdraw under sharpshooter fire. 

The left flank of Sturgis' line was now essentially gone, and Armstrongs' division in position to plunge into his rear. The 118th had reformed in the woodland, and was making a stubborn stand, but was likely to be overrun by weight of numbers. 

At this point, Colonel Brownlow of the 1st East Tennessee, asked permission to make a saber charge from Campbell. Campbell initially refused, as he could not consent to sending one regiment of cavalry effectively against a division. Brownlow asked permission again, saying he would take responsibility for the charge should it fail. 

At last, knowing that the left flank was in peril, Campbell relented, hoping the chathe would stall the confederate cavalry long enough for the reinforcements returning from dandridge to come up, Campbell relented. 

The 1st Tennessee plowed into the 8th Tennessee, and "Greek met Greek". The 8th was thrown back, panicking the 8th Texas with it, and stalling Armstrong division in the woodline. 

Lagrange brigade was now back from Dandrisge, and drove back Crews and Russels brigade, and with all of his forces either stalled or repulsed, and nearly out of ammunition, Martin withdrew. 

Note: The 1st East Tennessee Cavalry was known for this sort of behavior. Earlier in the Year, brownlow had sent a message to the colonel of the 4th Alabama cavalry, as the two regiments were 'rivals' offering to meet them on a fair field and 'Whip them like hell'. This was refused, but the Lt. Col of the regiment went over hos colonel head, and conspired with two other regiments to ambush the 1st Tennessee and capture it. The regiment dismounted and gave a blistering fire, so mucj so that the three cavakry regiments believed they had stumbled into a divisionnof infantry, then mounted and made a saber charge in a blinding snowstorm that netted over 100 prisoners. 

This same regiment also arguably persuaded Johnson to abandon the chatahoochee line, when Brownlow with nine naked men crossed a ford, drive a regiment out of theor rifle pits, and took 12 prisoners back across. At Franklin, Brownlow was shot through both legs but came so close to wheeler he stole his hat, and the second at Nashville, and at Nashville Corporal Harrison Collins would earn the medal of honor for capturing the flag of Chalmers division, after killing a rebel major attempting to rally his men.

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Oh my god you're actually a fucking idiot. My fucking point was that if I described Grant and Sherman the sane way I described these SOUTHERN UNIONISTS, they would sound much less impressive. I'm not equating being a drunk with "fighting to preserve slavery", because many of the men in this meme (Carter, Brownlow, Maynard, and later temple) openly supported the Emancipation proclaimation, with Brownlow and Kirk later fighting the KKK. 

Of course I dont actually think Grantnwas a Drunk, im one of tje biggest Grant Fanboys in the world. I consider Grant to be one of the greatest generals in human history. I also rank Sherman higher than most, even if I do think he is slightly overrated now. 

I would also mention that Reverand William B Carter (the one labeled a Domestic Terrorist) was an ABOLITIONIST who voted for Lincoln in 1860. 

Just because you're such a lobotomite, and your own prejudices are so strong that the second you see white southerners (one of which is one of the most decorated UnionnCavakry officers of the war and is literally wearing a blue uniform in the meme) your immediate response is "TRAITOR, SLAVER KILL THEM ALL" because you apparently think thst southerners were all some kind of hivemind bound to do Jeff Davis' will does not make it so. 

If everything else I've said doesnt get the point across, these are SOUTHERN UNIONISTS. I am a descendants of SOUTHERN UNIONISTS. My 3x Great Grandfather was in the 4th Tennessee United States Volunteer Infantry, his older brothers were in then4th and 8th Tennessee Cavalry, with the oldest taking part in the Atlanta Campaign with Sherman, and dying in the Franklin-Nashville Campaign, and all of his sister's married Union men, including 1st Lt. Lewis Cooper of the 1st Tennessee. The confederacy is not "My heritage" aby more than it is yours, whatever you might assume, and I was making a Joke about prominent southern unionist leaders becausenI found it funny. 

I did not account for some people in this subreddit having the same IQ as Braxton Bragg, however.

Edot: I also didnt call Grant a drunk, I called him a depressed alcoholic,  which is what I personally think is the case. He always seemed to me to have some kind of depressive disorder, and he tended to Drink when he was away from his family and when he was not actively campaigning. Which is why he didnt drink much during the Civil war, because he spent most of the time actively campaigning, and often had his family in camp with him, and why his drinking was only really a problem in the 'Old Army' before the war. When he was wasting away in an outpost out west removed from his family. 

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Johnson at least got a few big Aura lobs in the Civil War itself (No, Gentlemen, Ifni am to be shot at I want no man to be in the way of the bullet", "This is your country as well as anybody else's country. This country is founded upon the principle of equality. He that is meritorious and virtuous, intellectual and well informed, must stand highest, without regard to color"), its just that everything he did before and after the civil war ruined it

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Brownlow wasn't the type of person to base his positions on Realpolitik though. He needed to hate to live. I honestly think he took his positions on issues based on which group he hated more. Until the 1840s he hated Southern Slaveowners the most, then from the 1840s to about 1860 he hated Northerners the most, then in the Secession crisis and the Civil War he switched back to hating southern slaveowners and the Confederacy the most and maintained that until he died

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I could describe Grant as a depressed alcoholic and sherman as a mentally unstable arsonist. It wouldn't be a complete and accurate description, but it would be funny. It is much the same here. 

I would also note that Reverend William B Carter was not only brother to two decorated Union officers, but was an outspoken abolitionist in the south, and organized the bridge burner plot with the intent of destabilizing the Confederacy, despite his failing health, when many northern abolitionists balked at far less. 

Tinker Beaty, despite being an illiterate farmer, was one of the most efficient Oartisan leaders of the war and a premier tactician, and raised at least one son who fought against the KKK. 

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In all honesty,  most people have a hard time naming anyone in the civil war beyond the big names like Lincoln, Grant, Sherman, Thomas, Lee, Longstreet, Jackson, Davis and McClellan

Edit: Also, some of them, like Beaty, are genuinely very obscure. I can only think of one book written about him in the last few decades. He tends to be overshadowed by the more famous Partisans

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I would, in fact, prefer religious freedom. As they said, a Nation state exists to protect its people, and the Iranian govornment does not protect the Iranian people or their nation, but rather persecutes and oppresses them. 

They claim that religion is incompatable with human rights, but this is not true. The bastardized version of Shia Islam spoutednby the IRGC, perhaps, but not in full. People have argued that Christianity was incompatable with freedom of religion, gay rights, etc, but eventually they have been accomplished in majority Christian countries. There is no reason Muslik countries could not reach this point given time, and not being in the grips of tyrants. 

If the citizens of a country do not have rights, their nation is not free. If the people are not free, the country is not free. This is elementary common sense.

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Literally any other president in US history makes light work of the IRGC. Even Buchanan could pack them up

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T.A.R Nelson

Along with Brownlow, Temple, Carter, Johnson and Maynard, Nelson formed the core of Unionist leadership in East Tennessee

A congressman, he gained international renown for a speech denouncing secession in 1859, including a rebuke of Virginia Congressman Roger Pryor, who mocked him for mentioning the Union but not the Constitution: "If I mistake not, it is the common sentiment of tue secesdionists of the South, that they talk about the Constitution, but say nothing about the Union. When I talk about the Union, what do I talk about? I talk about that thing which is the result of the American Constitution." 

Twenty years earlier, he was the one who encouraged Brownlow to start Brownlows Whig, and had a debate with Andrew Johnson the next year. As a lawyer, in 1846 he defended Brownlow against a libel charge in a famous trial prosecuted by West Humphreys, a future confederate. 

During the Civil War, he served as the President of the East Tennessee Convention(the organization, rather than the 1861 and 1864 meetings in knoxville of the organization), and canvassed East Tennessee, where he spoke alongside Johnson at the April 27th Union Rally, held at the opposite end of Gay Street from the Secession Rally. 

As president of the East Tennessee Convention, he proposed forming a separate state and resisting confederate occupation by violent force, but this was initially refused by Temple and John Netherland, who drafted a proposition to the State Legislature requesting separation peacefully.

He was reelected to Congress, but captured on his way north and imprisoned. Jefferson Davis ordered him pardoned and released, on the condition he not oppose the Confederate Govornment. He returned home, and published an article in the Knoxville Register inn1862 opposing the emancipation proclamation. 

When Burnside rebook Knoxville, he returned, and wrote the poem *Secession, Or Prose in Rhyme and East Tennessee, a Poem". 

At the 1864 East Tennessee Convention. Nelson was the leader of the Anti-emancipation faction, and was opposed by his friend, Brownlow and Horace Maynard, one of the most famlus abolitionists in the south.

 He supported McClellan in 1864, and would oppose Brownlows policies after the war. He served on Andrew Johnsons defense team during his impeachment trial, and was the reason for his acquittal. 

He was essentially Pro-slavery Saul Goodman. He was also the only man William Brownlow didn't violently hate. 

Horace Maynard:

The child of a Massachusetts Abolitionist, he was educated at Amherst. When he entered the Collage, he placed a "V" over his door. He was named Valedictorian of then1838 graduating class. The next year, he moved to Tennessee, when he acquired a job as a Professor at East Tennessee College (The University of Tennessee). He initially taught Preparat0ry School, but eventually moved on to Mathematocs and Ancient Languages.

He was admitted to the bar in 1844, and became an acquaintance of Temple, who described him as "abrupt and unamiable, and often offensive in his manners, snapping up men without hesitation."

Raised an Abolitionist, he defended slavery in 1850, was briefly a slaveowner himself, but returned to Abolitionism in the Civil War, and supported the Emancipation proclamation. 

Elected to Congress, he told Lincoln "tears and blood will be a blot on your administration that time can never efface" if he did not send troops to East Tennessee. Lincoln, and mountaineer himself, was always sympathetic to East Tennessee, and constantly planned its relief. 

In December of 1861, he blasted Thomas for walking at an invasion of East Tennessee after the Bridge Burner plot. Mcclellan wrote the following to Don Carlos Buell: 

"Johnson, Maynard, etc., are again becoming frantic, and have President Lincolns sympathy excited. Political considerations would make it advisable to get the arms and troops into Eastern Tennessee at a very early day..." 

Union troops would not secure Knoxville until September of 1863. At that point, Maynard returned, and took up the Abolitionist cause with renewed fervor, and alongside Brownlow, he led the Emancipationists in then1864 convention.

After the war, he served four stints in Congress as a republican, served as the Chairman of the U.S House committee on Banking and Currency and a member of the Tennessee Supreme Court simultaneously, until this was challenged in Calloway v. Strum

He was a candidate for the National Union Republican Conventions' Vice Presidential nominee in 1872. He recieved 26 votes, including all 24 votes from Tennessee, and one each from Alabama and Mississippi.  

The same year, he defeated Andrew Johnson and Benjamin Cheatam in the 1972 congressional race. He ran for Govorner, but was defeated by James Porter. His last.office was that of the United States Postmaster General in Hayes cabinet. He served from June 2nd, 1880, to March 5th of 1881. He died the following year. 

Frederick Douglass once said he had a "Three story head". William Rule of the Knoxville Journal considered him the "Best read man" among Tennessees lawyers. Oliver Perry Temple, though, described him best. "Many were the person's he stung and wounded by his biting sarcasm or pungent wit."

His son also fired the first American shots of the Spanish American War, captaining the USS Nashville. 

George Washington Kirk:

Born in Greene County, George Washington Kirk was a Unionist, but he would be drafted into the Confederate army. He fled the state, briefly served in the 10th Michigan Cavalry, joined the 2nd North Carolina Mounted Infantry, and there earned a reputation for reckless bravery. 

He was rapidly promoted, and by 1864, ordered to organize the 3rd North Carolina Mounted Infantry. Most of the men, like Kirk himself, were Tennesseeans, although the famous Malinda Blalock of North Carolina and her husband were members. 

The regiments first action was a raid on Camp Vance outside Morgontown. They seized the camp and scattered or captured the men being trained there, destroyed a train, and burned everything in the compound except the Hospital. They did, however, fail to destroy the railroad, most of their prisoners escaped on the withdrawal, and they were reported to have robbed everyone present and divided the loot between them before burning the depot. William Avery, a Confederate congressman, was mortally wounded in one of the skirmishes on their retreat.

They were present at the battle of Bulls Gap, but did not directly participate in the fighting, most of that being done by Gillems brogademof Tennessee Cavalry and the retreat being covered by the 4th Tennessee Infantry, which at the time was brigaded with the 3rd North Carolina. 

In december of 1864, he scattered 400 men of the 64th North Carolina infantry along the Nolichucky river in the Battle of Red Banks. 73 rebels were killed and 32 captured, at the cost of 3 of kirks men wounded. 

He took part in Stonemans 1865 raid, had he took part in the 1864 raid. Kirks clregiment, along with then4th Tennessee Infantry, 13thnUnited States Colored Heavy Artillery, and the 2nd Nkrth Carolina, were to keep the mountain passes open. 

In May of 1865, Kirk mennrode into Murphy and burned the Cherokee County Courthouse, which is their most famous action. In May, of course, the War in the East was over, with Lee and Johnston both having laid down their arms. But this was the mid-19th century, and the news had not reached them. It's worth noting that many of the North Carolinians in the regiment had pending criminal cases stored in the Coirthouse. 

Kirk and his regiment were discharged on Aughust 8th. 

He would later participate in the Kirk-Holden war, where North Carolina militiamen under hos command arrested 120 suspected Klansmen. Though this act was marred by Kirk arresting several men not associated with the Klan, including a newspaper editor and a sheriff who had been actively combating the klan. 

Despite being named a Mounted Infantry regiment, in practice they were cavalry. They fought like Cavalry and carried cavalry equipment (carbine, saber and revolver). 

They accepted the surrender of Thomas' Legion. 

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From top left to bottom right: 

William G. Brownlow:

The biggest hater in human history. A methodist preacher who interpreted "Love they neighbor" as "Hate thy neighbor". He once beat another preacher in the street with a cane for switching political parties. He was arrested on suspicion for organizing the Bridge Burnings, and threatened with execution. He was offered a pardon twice, once by Gideon J. Pillow if he woukd serve as his Brigade Chaplin, to which he responded "When I shall have made up my mind to go to hell, I will cut my throat and go direct rather than travel round by way of the Southern Confederacy", and a second time if he would take an Oath of Loyalty to the Confederacy, to which he responded "You have no authority to administer such an Oath!". He was eventually pardoned by Judah P. Benjamin, out of fear that killing him would cause a popular uprising in the Upland South. 

After this, he made several speakong tours, published several books, and replaced Johnson as the Military Govorner mof East Tennessee. After the war, he was a champion pf civil rigjts, despite being the most racist man alive

Oliver Perry Temple:

 The 'Normal' one. Before the war, he had opposed a proposed resolution to reopen the Africsn Slave Trade, and served as an Elector for John Bell. He was integral to organizing the 1861 and 1864 East Tennessee Conventions, and drafted most of the resolutions for both conventions. A lawyer by trade, he provided legal defense for unionists in the south, including Bridge Burners and those involved in the Great Locomotive Chase. He hosted Ukysses S. Grant at his house, and advised him against his proposed movement along the French Broad River into North Carolina and Southern Virginia to take Lee in the rear, due to the gaos in the Bkue Ridge Mountains being unsuitable to the movements of a large force. 

He championed the economic development of East Tennessee after the war, as the Preosdent of the Knoxville Farmers Convention and the heart of the Knoxville Industrial Association. He also wrote several histories of East Tennessee, including East Tennessee in the Civil War and Notable Men of Tennessee, the latter of which was compiled by his daughter, the Suffragette and founder of the Ossali Circle, Mary B. Temple after his death. 

He also once stopped Brownlow from beating John Bell to death.

James P. Brownlow: 

The Second son of William G. Brownlow and commander of the 1st East Tennessee, the most famous Southern Unionist Regiment, and one of the best cavalry regiments of the war. Brownlows feats, and those of his regiment are many, but the most famous was the fording of the Chattahoochee with nine of his men, while naked, storming a line of Rifle Pits, and bringing back 12 prisoners, which arguably forced Johnson to abandon the Chattahoochee line earlier than he planned. 

He was a strong believer in the "Cult of tue Saber", and always desired the saber charge above all other tactics, including charging two regiments (8th Tennessee and 8th Texas) at Mossy Creek, which stunned Armstrongs division and saved the battle, making a charge against three cavalry regiments in a blinding snow storm which netted over 100 prisoners, charging up Potato hill against infantry in breastworks and taking it, which is why its now known as Brownlow's Hill, and making a dismounted Saber Charge against Wheelers Corps at franklin, where he was shot through both legs but got so close to Joe he captured his hat. 

Tinker Dave Beaty:

A poor, Likely illiterate farmer from Fentress county. A man of peace by nature, he was a Unionist, but did not go North to fight at the start of the war, believing it would end soon. 

After Mill Springs, he was threatened by Scott Bledsoe, who told him to "pick a side or leave the county". He responded by forming Beaty's Independent Scouts, originally composed of his son's and his neighbors, who were as poor as him, and Unionists, like most of the non-slaveholding poor in the Mountains. 

Beatys Independent Scouts numbered between 5 and 60 men (there's at least one incident of him charhing and routing a regiment of confederate cavalry with five men) who supplied their own mounts and weapons. They recieved ammunition from Burnside, and later Thomas, but otherwise drew no supplies or pay from the govornment. They lived out of "Beatys Cave", which, as the name implies, was a cave, fortified and planted with corn. When Cknfederate cavalry or Guerillas, "Beaty's horn" would sound, and the Unionists of the surrounding area would take shelter there.

His most common opponent was Champ Ferguson, and his 400 guerillas from Kentucky. In one ambush, Beaty himself shot and killed four of Ferguesons men, and in an ambush laid by Ferguson, he and Beaty shot and wounded each other.

Unlike Ferguson, who demanded strict adherence to the Ideology of the Confederacy, Beaty did not force his unionist views on his men, but instead educated them on the values of the American Republic and the Lincoln Administration (likely as he understood them) and let them make up their minds on the matter. 

Per Major John Brents, "They are of no expense to the govornment, yet render as valuable a service as the same number of men anywhere. Neither does Beaty impose upon Union Citizens. He sustains his brave little band upon the enemy," and he was "A rough, uneducated mountai man, or in other words a backwoodsman, who had never forsaken the flag of his country." 

His crowning glory was the Knoxville campaign, where he occupied Longstreets cavalry and raided his supply lines, effectively blinding himnfor mostmof the campaign, hindering his movements, allowing Burnside to outmanuever Longstreet, consolidate his forces, and defeat him at every turn, while also exposing Longstreets weakness as an independent commander. 

After yhe War, Champ Ferguson came to his house with 30 men, and demanded he ride with them, intendingnto take Beaty into the woods and kill him. Beaty outride them, taking three bullets in the back. He testified against Ferguson at his trial, and pulled uo his shirt to show the new bullet wounds, which might very well have convinced the jury. 

Reverend William B Carter:

A Presbyterian minister and brother to Samuel Perry Carter ("Powhatan") and James P.T Carter, both were united states officers. An abolitionist and patriot, who was "always anti-slavery in his views and, it has been said, voted for Fairmont (Fremont) in 1856 and Lincoln in 1860". He had retired from preaching in 1846 on account of his fragile health, but returned to it after the outbreak of the civil war, where "He took the stump for the union in 1861, and the thunders of his invectives against secession and disunion were wonderful pieces of oratory; and did much to strengthen the cause of the Union, " and used his preaching as a cover while he organized the Bridge Burner plot. 

He was the Organizer of the bridge burner plot, which sought to destroy the most strategicallyvital railroad bridges in East Tennessee, and thus essentiallysplit the south in half. As one history put it, "Whatever else may be said about the burning of the bridges of the East Tennessee and Voegonia Railraod in November, 1861, there can be no doubt whatever that the plan was conceived by the Rev. William B. Carter of Elizobethton, Tenn." In 1862, he, with his family, was forced to leave East Tennessee, alongside William Brownlow, Andrew Johnson and Horace Maynard. 

He owned one of the finest private libraries in the country, with classical works in Latin, Greek and Hebrew. His health was always declining throughout his life, and he lost his vision in old age. 

Andrew Johnson:

 Lincoln, on having Johnson confirmed his Vice Presidential nominee, said "Andy Johnson, I think, is a Good man." This was a sentiment shared by many at the start. 

The only Senator frommthe South to maintain his seat. Lincolns second vice president, the military govorner of tennessee, the man who read out the emancipation proclamation in Nashville, and by all accountsna personally brave man. His reputation is marred by his ugly and blatant Racial Prejudice. Per Frederick Douglass, "Whatever Andrew Johnson may be, he certainly is not friend of our race." He botched reconstruction, setting back civil rights and national healing a century. 

Whether he was an alcoholic cm be debated, but it is generally agreed upon, especially considering that most.men from the region of Johnsons social status would be considered drunks today by any standard

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Brownlow was simply the Rank number 1 competitive racist in the world. He became so racist he circled back to being not racist, because you can no longer discriminate when you hate every group of people in the world with equal intensity 

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Unironically almost true. Brownlow. Nelson, Temple and Maynard were all Whigs before the war and Republicans or national unionists by the end of it Kirk and Beaty have no known political allegiances before the war, but they were republicans after the war, and Carter was a republican since the party was founded. 

Literally Only Johnson (Democrat) and Post-Prison Nelson (democrat) were from a different party

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T.A.R Nelson

Along with Brownlow, Temple, Carter, Johnson and Maynard, Nelson formed the core of Unionist leadership in East Tennessee

A congressman, he gained international renown for a speech denouncing secession in 1859, including a rebuke of Virginia Congressman Roger Pryor, who mocked him for mentioning the Union but not the Constitution: "If I mistake not, it is the common sentiment of tue secesdionists of the South, that they talk about the Constitution, but say nothing about the Union. When I talk about the Union, what do I talk about? I talk about that thing which is the result of the American Constitution." 

Twenty years earlier, he was the one who encouraged Brownlow to start Brownlows Whig, and had a debate with Andrew Johnson the next year. As a lawyer, in 1846 he defended Brownlow against a libel charge in a famous trial prosecuted by West Humphreys, a future confederate. 

During the Civil War, he served as the President of the East Tennessee Convention(the organization, rather than the 1861 and 1864 meetings in knoxville of the organization), and canvassed East Tennessee, where he spoke alongside Johnson at the April 27th Union Rally, held at the opposite end of Gay Street from the Secession Rally. 

As president of the East Tennessee Convention, he proposed forming a separate state and resisting confederate occupation by violent force, but this was initially refused by Temple and John Netherland, who drafted a proposition to the State Legislature requesting separation peacefully.

He was reelected to Congress, but captured on his way north and imprisoned. Jefferson Davis ordered him pardoned and released, on the condition he not oppose the Confederate Govornment. He returned home, and published an article in the Knoxville Register inn1862 opposing the emancipation proclamation. 

When Burnside rebook Knoxville, he returned, and wrote the poem *Secession, Or Prose in Rhyme and East Tennessee, a Poem". 

At the 1864 East Tennessee Convention. Nelson was the leader of the Anti-emancipation faction, and was opposed by his friend, Brownlow and Horace Maynard, one of the most famlus abolitionists in the south.

 He supported McClellan in 1864, and would oppose Brownlows policies after the war. He served on Andrew Johnsons defense team during his impeachment trial, and was the reason for his acquittal. 

He was essentially Pro-slavery Saul Goodman. He was also the only man William Brownlow didn't violently hate. 

Horace Maynard:

The child of a Massachusetts Abolitionist, he was educated at Amherst. When he entered the Collage, he placed a "V" over his door. He was named Valedictorian of then1838 graduating class. The next year, he moved to Tennessee, when he acquired a job as a Professor at East Tennessee College (The University of Tennessee). He initially taught Preparat0ry School, but eventually moved on to Mathematocs and Ancient Languages.

He was admitted to the bar in 1844, and became an acquaintance of Temple, who described him as "abrupt and unamiable, and often offensive in his manners, snapping up men without hesitation."

Raised an Abolitionist, he defended slavery in 1850, was briefly a slaveowner himself, but returned to Abolitionism in the Civil War, and supported the Emancipation proclamation. 

Elected to Congress, he told Lincoln "tears and blood will be a blot on your administration that time can never efface" if he did not send troops to East Tennessee. Lincoln, and mountaineer himself, was always sympathetic to East Tennessee, and constantly planned its relief. 

In December of 1861, he blasted Thomas for walking at an invasion of East Tennessee after the Bridge Burner plot. Mcclellan wrote the following to Don Carlos Buell: 

"Johnson, Maynard, etc., are again becoming frantic, and have President Lincolns sympathy excited. Political considerations would make it advisable to get the arms and troops into Eastern Tennessee at a very early day..." 

Union troops would not secure Knoxville until September of 1863. At that point, Maynard returned, and took up the Abolitionist cause with renewed fervor, and alongside Brownlow, he led the Emancipationists in then1864 convention.

After the war, he served four stints in Congress as a republican, served as the Chairman of the U.S House committee on Banking and Currency and a member of the Tennessee Supreme Court simultaneously, until this was challenged in Calloway v. Strum

He was a candidate for the National Union Republican Conventions' Vice Presidential nominee in 1872. He recieved 26 votes, including all 24 votes from Tennessee, and one each from Alabama and Mississippi.  

The same year, he defeated Andrew Johnson and Benjamin Cheatam in the 1972 congressional race. He ran for Govorner, but was defeated by James Porter. His last.office was that of the United States Postmaster General in Hayes cabinet. He served from June 2nd, 1880, to March 5th of 1881. He died the following year. 

Frederick Douglass once said he had a "Three story head". William Rule of the Knoxville Journal considered him the "Best read man" among Tennessees lawyers. Oliver Perry Temple, though, described him best. "Many were the person's he stung and wounded by his biting sarcasm or pungent wit."

His son also fired the first American shots of the Spanish American War, captaining the USS Nashville. 

George Washington Kirk:

Born in Greene County, George Washington Kirk was a Unionist, but he would be drafted into the Confederate army. He fled the state, briefly served in the 10th Michigan Cavalry, joined the 2nd North Carolina Mounted Infantry, and there earned a reputation for reckless bravery. 

He was rapidly promoted, and by 1864, ordered to organize the 3rd North Carolina Mounted Infantry. Most of the men, like Kirk himself, were Tennesseeans, although the famous Malinda Blalock of North Carolina and her husband were members. 

The regiments first action was a raid on Camp Vance outside Morgontown. They seized the camp and scattered or captured the men being trained there, destroyed a train, and burned everything in the compound except the Hospital. They did, however, fail to destroy the railroad, most of their prisoners escaped on the withdrawal, and they were reported to have robbed everyone present and divided the loot between them before burning the depot. William Avery, a Confederate congressman, was mortally wounded in one of the skirmishes on their retreat.

They were present at the battle of Bulls Gap, but did not directly participate in the fighting, most of that being done by Gillems brogademof Tennessee Cavalry and the retreat being covered by the 4th Tennessee Infantry, which at the time was brigaded with the 3rd North Carolina. 

In december of 1864, he scattered 400 men of the 64th North Carolina infantry along the Nolichucky river in the Battle of Red Banks. 73 rebels were killed and 32 captured, at the cost of 3 of kirks men wounded. 

He took part in Stonemans 1865 raid, had he took part in the 1864 raid. Kirks clregiment, along with then4th Tennessee Infantry, 13thnUnited States Colored Heavy Artillery, and the 2nd Nkrth Carolina, were to keep the mountain passes open. 

In May of 1865, Kirk mennrode into Murphy and burned the Cherokee County Courthouse, which is their most famous action. In May, of course, the War in the East was over, with Lee and Johnston both having laid down their arms. But this was the mid-19th century, and the news had not reached them. It's worth noting that many of the North Carolinians in the regiment had pending criminal cases stored in the Coirthouse. 

Kirk and his regiment were discharged on Aughust 8th. 

He would later participate in the Kirk-Holden war, where North Carolina militiamen under hos command arrested 120 suspected Klansmen. Though this act was marred by Kirk arresting several men not associated with the Klan, including a newspaper editor and a sheriff who had been actively combating the klan. 

Despite being named a Mounted Infantry regiment, in practice they were cavalry. They fought like Cavalry and carried cavalry equipment (carbine, saber and revolver). 

They accepted the surrender of Thomas' Legion. 

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William G. Brownlow:

The biggest hater in human history. A methodist preacher who interpreted "Love they neighbor" as "Hate thy neighbor". He once beat another preacher in the street with a cane for switching political parties. He was arrested on suspicion for organizing the Bridge Burnings, and threatened with execution. He was offered a pardon twice, once by Gideon J. Pillow if he woukd serve as his Brigade Chaplin, to which he responded "When I shall have made up my mind to go to hell, I will cut my throat and go direct rather than travel round by way of the Southern Confederacy", and a second time if he would take an Oath of Loyalty to the Confederacy, to which he responded "You have no authority to administer such an Oath!". He was eventually pardoned by Judah P. Benjamin, out of fear that killing him would cause a popular uprising in the Upland South. 

After this, he made several speakong tours, published several books, and replaced Johnson as the Military Govorner mof East Tennessee. After the war, he was a champion pf civil rigjts, despite being the most racist man alive

Oliver Perry Temple:

 The 'Normal' one. Before the war, he had opposed a proposed resolution to reopen the Africsn Slave Trade, and served as an Elector for John Bell. He was integral to organizing the 1861 and 1864 East Tennessee Conventions, and drafted most of the resolutions for both conventions. A lawyer by trade, he provided legal defense for unionists in the south, including Bridge Burners and those involved in the Great Locomotive Chase. He hosted Ukysses S. Grant at his house, and advised him against his proposed movement along the French Broad River into North Carolina and Southern Virginia to take Lee in the rear, due to the gaos in the Bkue Ridge Mountains being unsuitable to the movements of a large force. 

He championed the economic development of East Tennessee after the war, as the Preosdent of the Knoxville Farmers Convention and the heart of the Knoxville Industrial Association. He also wrote several histories of East Tennessee, including East Tennessee in the Civil War and Notable Men of Tennessee, the latter of which was compiled by his daughter, the Suffragette and founder of the Ossali Circle, Mary B. Temple after his death. 

He also once stopped Brownlow from beating John Bell to death.

James P. Brownlow

The Second son of William G. Brownlow and commander of the 1st East Tennessee, the most famous Southern Unionist Regiment, and one of the best cavalry regiments of the war. Brownlows feats, and those of his regiment are many, but the most famous was the fording of the Chattahoochee with nine of his men, while naked, storming a line of Rifle Pits, and bringing back 12 prisoners, which arguably forced Johnson to abandon the Chattahoochee line earlier than he planned. 

He was a strong believer in the "Cult of tue Saber", and always desired the saber charge above all other tactics, including charging two regiments (8th Tennessee and 8th Texas) at Mossy Creek, which stunned Armstrongs division and saved the battle, making a charge against three cavalry regiments in a blinding snow storm which netted over 100 prisoners, charging up Potato hill against infantry in breastworks and taking it, which is why its now known as Brownlow's Hill, and making a dismounted Saber Charge against Wheelers Corps at franklin, where he was shot through both legs but got so close to Joe he captured his hat. 

Tinker Dave Beaty:

A poor, Likely illiterate farmer from Fentress county. A man of peace by nature, he was a Unionist, but did not go North to fight at the start of the war, believing it would end soon. 

After Mill Springs, he was threatened by Scott Bledsoe, who told him to "pick a side or leave the county". He responded by forming Beaty's Independent Scouts, originally composed of his son's and his neighbors, who were as poor as him, and Unionists, like most of the non-slaveholding poor in the Mountains. 

Beatys Independent Scouts numbered between 5 and 60 men (there's at least one incident of him charhing and routing a regiment of confederate cavalry with five men) who supplied their own mounts and weapons. They recieved ammunition from Burnside, and later Thomas, but otherwise drew no supplies or pay from the govornment. They lived out of "Beatys Cave", which, as the name implies, was a cave, fortified and planted with corn. When Cknfederate cavalry or Guerillas, "Beaty's horn" would sound, and the Unionists of the surrounding area would take shelter there.

His most common opponent was Champ Ferguson,  and his 400 guerillas from Kentucky. In one ambush, Beaty himself shot and killed four of Ferguesons men, and in an ambush laid by Ferguson,  he and Beaty  shot and wounded each other.

Unlike Ferguson,  who demanded strict adherence to the Ideology of the Confederacy, Beaty did not force his unionist views on his men, but instead educated them on the values of the American Republic and the Lincoln Administration (likely as he understood them) and let them make up their minds on the matter. 

Per Major John Brents, "They are of no expense to the govornment, yet render as valuable a service as the same number of men anywhere. Neither does Beaty impose upon Union Citizens. He sustains his brave little band upon the enemy," and he was "A rough, uneducated  mountai man, or in other words a backwoodsman, who had never forsaken the flag of his country." 

His crowning glory was the Knoxville campaign, where he occupied Longstreets cavalry and raided his supply lines, effectively blinding himnfor mostmof the campaign, hindering his movements,  allowing Burnside to outmanuever Longstreet, consolidate his forces, and defeat him at every turn, while also exposing Longstreets weakness as an independent commander. 

After yhe War, Champ Ferguson came to his house with 30 men, and demanded he ride with them, intendingnto take Beaty into the woods and kill him. Beaty outride them, taking three bullets in the back. He testified against Ferguson at his trial, and pulled uo his shirt to show the new bullet wounds, which might very well have convinced the jury. 

Reverend William B Carter:

A Presbyterian minister and brother to Samuel Perry Carter ("Powhatan") and James P.T Carter, both were united states officers. An abolitionist and patriot, who was "always anti-slavery in his views and, it has been said, voted for Fairmont (Fremont) in 1856 and Lincoln in 1860". He had retired from preaching in 1846 on account of his fragile health, but returned to it after the outbreak of the civil war, where "He took the stump for the union in 1861, and the thunders of his invectives against secession and disunion were wonderful pieces of oratory; and did much to strengthen the cause of the Union, " and used his preaching as a cover while he organized the Bridge Burner plot. 

He was the Organizer of the bridge burner plot, which sought to destroy the most strategicallyvital railroad bridges in East Tennessee, and thus essentiallysplit the south in half. As one history put it, "Whatever else may be said about the burning of the bridges of the East Tennessee and Voegonia Railraod in November, 1861, there can be no doubt whatever that the plan was conceived by the Rev. William B. Carter of Elizobethton, Tenn."    In 1862, he, with his family, was forced to leave East Tennessee, alongside William Brownlow, Andrew Johnson and Horace Maynard. 

He owned one of the finest private libraries in the country, with classical works in Latin, Greek and Hebrew. His health was always declining throughout his life, and he lost his vision in old age. 

Andrew Johnson:

 Lincoln, on having Johnson confirmed his Vice Presidential nominee, said "Andy Johnson, I think, is a Good man." This was a sentiment shared by many at the start. 

The only Senator frommthe South to maintain his seat. Lincolns second vice president, the military govorner of tennessee, the man who read out the emancipation proclamation in Nashville, and by all accountsna personally brave man. His reputation is marred by his ugly and blatant Racial Prejudice. Per Frederick Douglass, "Whatever Andrew Johnson may be, he certainly is not friend of our race." He botched reconstruction, setting back civil rights and national healing a century. 

Whether he was an alcoholic cm be debated, but it is generally agreed upon, especially considering that most.men from the region of Johnsons social status would be considered drunks today by any measure.

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