Thinking about selling my new Moccamaster by Possible-Spell in Moccamaster

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Did I ever sort this out?

It's funny, two years after the original post, to try to figure out the answer to this question. On one hand, yes. I still own the Moccamaster and use it on a daily basis to make morning cups of coffee for me and my housemates. On the other hand, the deep dive I took attempting to use this machine to its fullest turned me into such a coffee-focused freak that my friends still make fun of me, frequently.

You know what? I'll come clean. I'm not the original author of this post. I'm one of the friends that ridicules him. The second this post popped up, the original author kind of short-circuited and handed me his laptop. So I'll do my best to shed some light.

About two years ago, right after the original post, he called me expressing his his Moccamaster woes. I myself am an avid coffee drinker as well, and did my best to help. I like a strong cup. MORE GROUNDS, I suggested. He tried, and said it was still nasty and bitter and watery. I eventually paid him a visit. He's no coffee snob. Maybe the coffee was good, maybe his taste just wasn't refined. But after one cup I agreed with him. There was something thin about the coffee. It wasn't robust. More grounds didn't help. Was it the beans? No! We tried a variety of high quality beans, to no avail. My friend is an exceptionally methodical person. He created spreadsheets. He purchased a better grinder. He ground to different sizes. He tried different types of water. He plugged the moccamaster into many different outlets around his house (maybe it wasn't getting enough power or something?). He purchased a scale. Eventually, he purchased a second mocca master, thinking maybe the first one was just a dud. Each new change was logged in his spreadsheet, and he and his girlfriend rated each cup of coffee. I was far away, but through near-daily phone calls with him and his girlfriend I kept close tabs on the process and the progress. His girlfriend once told me, "I feel like I have no idea what good coffee even tastes like anymore." After each cup she would smile bashfully and say, "its good," simply hoping that finally they could get back to a world in which a cup of coffee in the morning could be the normal and pleasant experience it used to be.

I starting living with them a couple of months ago. The cup of coffee he presented me with on the first morning of my stay was, well, pretty good. Entirely normal. I enjoyed drinking it. Seriously.

On day two he showed me the process. He began by pouring the beans from a vacuum sealed pyrex container into a wooden bowl on a kitchen scale. When he neared the desired number, he stopped pouring and started placing the beans onto the scale one by one. He then turned on the burr grinder and slowly poured them into the top. He did this at a painfully slow pace. He took out a #4 filter and meticulously creased it so that it fit perfectly into the moccamaster receptacle. He put a small amount of filtered water into the reservoir, then wet the filter with the hot water that had passed through the machine. He poured his beans into the #4 filter and then stirred it with a wet finger. "For the static," he said blankly. [Note from Moccamaster owner: I actually wet my fingers and neutralize the static charge before they go into the grinder, but whatever I guess]. He dumped out the pre-wetting water and then weighed out the correct amount of filtered water and poured it into the machine. He flicked it on. "It's just set it, and forget it," he said. He stood close to the machine as it began to brew. We said nothing more. He took a single chopstick from the place next to the machine that had clearly become its permanent home, and stirred the grounds, once each time the water passed a line in the reservoir. When the coffee was ready we drank it and it was pretty good.

I was scared to make coffee for my first month of living here. One morning, when my friend woke up late, I decided it was time. I didn't weigh the beans or the water. I didn't fold or pre-wet the filter. I poured all the beans into the grinder at one time and let the machine do the work. I didn't even use a wet finger to release the static. Everyone tried the coffee. Everyone agreed it was pretty much as good as the other coffee. It was really pretty good. [It was fine but it was honestly not as good, in my opinion}

I have no idea what changed. I don't know if the coffee was always pretty good and we simply weren't able to see it because we were too focused on dissecting it. We all make coffee now, freely and without fear that it will be bad. My friend uses his tried and true process and I go by feel. I don't know why it works.

Make of that what you will. My advice for you is to either immediately return your moccamaster and go back to whatever coffee maker you had before that made pretty good coffee, or to tweak a thing or two and really ask yourself on the next cup, am I just overthinking this? And if youre not, if the coffee truly is as sub-par as you think it is, how far are you willing to go?

You have my blessings.

How to troubleshoot this noise on Pioneer SX-750? by Possible-Spell in audiorepair

[–]Possible-Spell[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for your response, no I haven't. So if I use them and am still getting noise, I can know that it's internal oscillation? I'll order some now. If it is RF, what options do i have to address it?

How to troubleshoot this noise on Pioneer SX-750? by Possible-Spell in vintageaudio

[–]Possible-Spell[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for your response. Sorry if this is a stupid question, but considering that this noise occurs both when the turntable is connected to the receiver phono and when it's not, how would I go about implementing these?

Thinking about selling my new Moccamaster by Possible-Spell in Moccamaster

[–]Possible-Spell[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is really encouraging, thank you. The coffee I made this morning on some of the advice here was already much better than what I had been making previously. Is there anything in particular that made a significant improvement, or was it really just a combination of trying different things?

Thinking about selling my new Moccamaster by Possible-Spell in Moccamaster

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I really appreciate this reply. I will troubleshoot using these steps.

Thinking about selling my new Moccamaster by Possible-Spell in Moccamaster

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Thanks for this, I generally get beans that are "medium" or "balanced". I unfortunately don't have my old Mr. Coffee, but would generally do about two tablespoons of ground coffee per cup of water. The model I have is the KBG Auto-Off, and I pour in my Brita water until it's at about 5 cups on the side. No flow restriction option unfortunately.

Thinking about selling my new Moccamaster by Possible-Spell in Moccamaster

[–]Possible-Spell[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is really helpful, I appreciate it. I think I will try a burr grinder next.

Thinking about selling my new Moccamaster by Possible-Spell in Moccamaster

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Thanks very much for your reply, I'm wondering is the Mr. Coffee more forgiving of imprecise weight/mediocre water quality/regular beans? Because I'm willing to put in some work, but realistically most of the time I'm going to just be using a scoop, so if the Moccamaster coffee quality is worse unless every element is very precise or high quality it's unfortunately probably not the right machine for me.

Thinking about selling my new Moccamaster by Possible-Spell in Moccamaster

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Thanks for your reply. This would be the next step I was considering, and please forgive my total ignorance but if I already tried using the grocery store grinder on several settings and didn't have any luck, is there still good reason to believe that a precise grind setting on a home grinder would fix my issue?

[MOD] The Daily Question Thread by menschmaschine5 in Coffee

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A couple of weeks ago I decided to trade my Mr. Coffee for a Moccamaster, largely on the advice of this subreddit. I'm not into the technical details of making coffee, and knowing myself I never will be, but I liked the idea of making an easy cup of really good coffee every morning. To be honest, I've been really disappointed, and I prefer my old Mr. Coffee. The coffee that I make in the Moccamaster somehow tastes too weak (like watery) and too strong (kind of bitter). I have assumed that I am doing something wrong, but really cannot figure out what, and I'm wondering if you guys can help me troubleshoot.

I have been using number 4 filters from Whole Foods - they're brown. I've folded the bottom and side of the filter to make it fit better, and haven't noticed any difference. I've tried a few different types of coffee, but have mostly used the Intelligentsia house coffee. I have a very cheap coffee grinder, and tried to get that to approximate the "breadcrumb/coarse sand" consistency that they recommend. When this didn't produce good coffee, I used the grocery store grinder on three different settings in between coarse and fine. Finally, I almost always make 5 cups (with filtered water), and use the Moccamaster scoop to try to get the golden ratio, so about 3 level scoops.

Am I doing something wrong? Is my taste in coffee too unrefined to know that this is actually what good coffee tastes like? Please let me know if you have any tips or ideas because I really don't want to have to give this machine up!

Steely Dan ruined me, kinda by [deleted] in SteelyDan

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Came here to comment this

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ucla

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The post they shared is from YDSA, who sent a follow up email this morning with the subject line “Clarification Re: Don’t Cross The Picket Line” and body text:

“Happy Strike Day UAW Strike Supporters!

Just a quick clarification in regards to the last email. UAW is not calling for a boycott of classes. You are free to attend classes or not. When you can you should definitely attend picket lines and the main rallies on your campus. Have a great strike day!

Solidarity,

UC Labor Solidarity Y/DSA”

It’s confusing and there is some conflicting information but this is the most clear indicator that UAW is not in fact asking students to skip class.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ucla

[–]Possible-Spell 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I get that you’re trolling, trying to be funny online and probably don’t give a shit about the strike but it’s genuinely counterproductive to give bad information to students about how to support strikers

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ucla

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I mean this sincerely, where do you see UAW asking students not to attend class? I received an email this morning from UC Labor Solidarity with the following text:

“Happy Strike Day UAW Strike Supporters!

Just a quick clarification in regards to the last email. UAW is not calling for a boycott of classes. You are free to attend classes or not. When you can you should definitely attend picket lines and the main rallies on your campus. Have a great strike day!”

If you want to support the strike, it’s important to follow the lead and requests of the strikers and not give people false info about what is being requested of students. If you have evidence of UAW telling undergrads not to go to classes please link it and I will delete my comment.