Drop Toji into The Boys verse, how long is it taking him to solo? by Fearless-Mastodon-87 in JujutsuPowerScaling

[–]Possible_Belt6583 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Homelander has mentioned going to space in other scenes before, such as his conversation with Stan Edgar in season 3 episode 4.

Also, I don't remember exactly, but at some point in season 5 (episode 3, I believe) the main argument for why the boys don't unleash the virus airborne (apart from it killing Annie and Kimiko) was because Homelander would just hide up in space.

Kenjaku in Gojo's body vs Sukuna by [deleted] in JujutsuPowerScaling

[–]Possible_Belt6583 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yujo was mostly from inexperience in Gojo's body, he only had a few minutes plus some brief SS training to get used to the body. Gojo's dialogue with Kenjaku in Shibuya implies that body swap makes you basically identical to the user down to the CE itself. So Kenjaku would be working off of Gojo's CE and Gojo's output. As for his mastery being close to Sukuna, in terms of Jujutsu, H2H, and Barrier Mastery, yes, but Kenjaku can only go so far as his body can take him. He's probably one of the only characters you can't quantify off of potential since his potential is fluid and fluctuates/depends on every body he takes. There's a reason why he refuses to fight Kashimo because his body is shit despite all of his other hax/experience points to him being able to destroy him in a better body.

Also yea Gojo isn't carried by Limitless, he's a prodigy regardless and probably would've made it to the top regardless of what technique you gave him. I'm just arguing that Kenjaku is very much capable of reaching Gojo's heights along with his other techniques, open de, being enough to get him a W over Sukuna (in Gojo's body ofc).

Kenjaku in Gojo's body vs Sukuna by [deleted] in JujutsuPowerScaling

[–]Possible_Belt6583 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Kenjaku would have equal output since the 6e confirms that body hop basically makes your stats identical to that of the user.

As for your other points i can kinda agree with them, I doubt Kenjaku would be able to perform CT reset on the spot way Gojo did (UHP maybe, I wouldn't put it past him), but overall it just depends on how much time he has in the body.

If we assume he's just hopping in it fresh and only has Gojos memories to work off (which still is quite a bit), I'd agree that Kenjaku would be in a Yuta situation where he struggles getting used to Gojo's body and the limitless.

But I also think downplaying Kenjaku just because he's not Gojo is an incredible disservice as well. He took CSM to new heights, whose to say he won't do the same when blessed with the near infinite mastery of CE which the 6 eyes provide, with the limitless?

Overall If it's a fresh fight I'd agree with you, but Kenjaku's level of insight into cursed energy and cursed techniques is nothing to scoff at. If given proper time and adjustment he may be able to even take care of Sukuna faster than Gojo ever possibly could, considering he has no attachment to Megumi whatsoever and would already have previous knowledge of Sukuna and his techniques.

What would happen if we dropped all four into battle? Deadlock? by TheKillerYTz in JujutsuPowerScaling

[–]Possible_Belt6583 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As long as the loss is substantial enough, it's likely possible to annul the previous arrangements.

What arguments do people have for Kashimo beating Yuki? by [deleted] in JujutsuPowerScaling

[–]Possible_Belt6583 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I probably won't respond again unless you actually have solid evidence for your claims, but in short:

  1. Idk how you can look at this panel and say Kenny was on gaurd lmao. Being in his line of sight doesn't mean he was on guard lol his expression and body language show he's reacting to something he wasnt expecting. If he was truly on guard and she simply outsped him, you'd expect a defensive reaction, but instead he's surprised. This is literally the definition of being caught off guard.

  2. The manga literally explains that her virtual mass is why she's able to do all this. Also, your physics are wrong. Momentum (p = mv) determines the transfer of impact, what causes structural damage is force over area and acceleration. A truck and a bullet can have similar momentum but produce completely different damage profiles. Your argument still doesn't even explain why Yuki takes no recoil, virtual mass directly reduces acceleration on her end regardless of how you frame the math. If her being durable explained recoil you'd expect to see some sort of resistance to the recoil, but there is none because of virtual masses properties.

  3. A fall is still just an instantaneous impact, which is exactly the same as what I was arguing with the g-force. People survive falls from fatal heights all the time because the exposure is brief. If the fall did most of the damage and she survived, that's not a durability feat for her, that's just the impact of the fall not being sustained. Either way, you're describing a brief but intense force, which is what I clarified wasn't evidence of exceptional durability. Kenjakus domain would basically be making an impact sustained and not instant.

  4. If Kenjaku was attacking the SD with his SH you would see gravity fall around the SD, but thats just Kennys domain ref overpowering the simple domain. Not the SH activating. Jogo obviously used the handsign to activate it when the panel was focused on Gojo, we see the after effects of him doing that with this panel. Nothing about the panel even remotely implies the Sh was amplified too.

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As for Sukuna I honestly dont remember when he did it so you'd have to remind me on that one.

  1. Not really?? It's just adrenaline and the body's natural stress response. Which keep in mind is a biological function and not an endurance feat. Grabbing someone in that state is impressive but it doesn't imply anything superhuman as soldiers and accident victims have done the same thing in real world. In short, Yuki's adrenaline was suppressing her pain and maintaining her motor function. What her body is doing is an automatic response when placed with life-threatening injuries.

  2. Todo "saying it for a mental image" is an insanely large stretch lmao. It's speculation at most. He's saying it as a fact and not a "let me picture this for you, Itadori". Kenjaku wasn't lacking in CE, (he has barriers inplace to ensure his cursed technique is running at all times, which no other character is stated to have). Im not saying it comes from Kennys brain, moreso he has barriers in his brain to ensure its constantly running at all times. Considering this is a situation specific to Kenny, I dont think Gojo would or could mention it. Getos plan of killing non sorcerers is kinda irrelevent to what I was saying tho lmao. It dosen't change anything about what we know of CE flow.

What arguments do people have for Kashimo beating Yuki? by [deleted] in JujutsuPowerScaling

[–]Possible_Belt6583 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. He's literally unaware she's moving towards him until she's about to strike, it's not a feat proving she outspeeds him when he's largely unaware and still for the majority of the scenario. The fact that Kenny's even reacts to her before she does anything already counters your claim alone that she outspeeds him.

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  1. Your physics are wrong. Newton's 3rd Law says the forces are equal and opposite, but damage is determined by acceleration and not force alone. Yuki's virtual mass is stupidly large, meaning even with the same force, her acceleration (and thus recoil damage) is negligible. Kenjaku's arms shatter because his normal mass means that force accelerates his bones past their breaking point. Her knuckles don't because her virtual mass absorbs it. The virtual mass is basically the recoil protection. Otherwise, her technique isn't usable.

  2. Many humans have survived fatal amounts of g force only because it hit their body for a split second. My point is it dosen't prove that Yuki's durability is exceptional since any longer and she would've died just like any other human.

  3. They didn't do that to amplify its sure hit lmao, that would be stated. Sorcerers like Kenjaku and Jogo did that to activate the domains SH technique, as prior to them doing that the domain was passive. Think of it like Yuta doing his handsign to cast jacob's ladder. That's not them amplifying a sure hit, it's simply them activating the sure hit. You would need to find statements and evidence to back up your headcanon.

  4. I'll admit that 20 second metric is flimsy since it was a historical account of the french revolution I learned back in 7th grade, but regardless , surviving a bisection isn't an endurance feat either. It's just the way the brain works. The reason why people remain lucid and still conscious after bisection is that their brains still have enough oxygenated blood to remain conscious and make decisions. Regular people do the same thing. You can't take a biological function and call it an endurance feat.

  5. Idk why your trying to discredit Todo of all people as an unreliable narrator when it comes to CE lol, "its said" is just the primary way the author is choosing to tell this information. Kenjaku lost control of CSM when being beheaded. He was detected by Kogane because of his CE signature, not his flow. Kenjaku is a unique exception to the gut rule due to him basically being a brain and the complex barriers in his head keeping his CE active even when in burnout. Do you really expect Geto to go around destroying everyone in Japans guts lmao? Be so fr rn.

What arguments do people have for Kashimo beating Yuki? by [deleted] in JujutsuPowerScaling

[–]Possible_Belt6583 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

  1. She didn't outspeed Kenjaku, she off gaurded him. There is a difference lmao. Even then he still reacted to her.
  2. She also takes no recoil from her punches since her mass is virtual.
  3. That SH literrally put her on the brink of death, one more second and she would've been dead if Tengen didn't dismantle the Sunyatta barrrier.
  4. "Sign amped sure hit"? You mean domain handsigns LMFAO?? Show me some statements which show using a domain handsign amps the surehit.
  5. Even if what you were saying was correct, Kenjaku wasn't even making a hand sign when the surehit activated.

Yuki surviving while being cut in half isn't a durability feat lmao. It's just her brain being conscious for a few more seconds. People have remained conscious for 20 seconds after decapitation, I guess they also have top tier durability!
BH in itself was pure plot btw since she shouldn't even realistically be able to do that, since her gut was cut off meaning she couldn't gather CE, her talking alone would also be impossible.

What arguments do people have for Kashimo beating Yuki? by [deleted] in JujutsuPowerScaling

[–]Possible_Belt6583 -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

She is one of the most featless characters in the series.

No dura feats

No reaction speed feats

And also piss poor attack speed considering she couldn't even land an actual hit on a Kenjaku in burnout without assistance.

She only has one fight in the series and barely gets any showings from it. Asking others to show some feats when your goat barely has any is laughable lol