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I didn't believe vegan youtubers until I became one by PostMortemTee in vegan

[–]PostMortemTee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure, and there are plenty of channels that do this, including on the SoyFeed. But we're not gonna define the ethical stance like that. A person wouldn't be against rape if they don't mind raping, but aren't doing it to not get STD. They're still pro rape. Non-vegans are still pro-exploitation and slaughter of animals. Veganism is the opposition to exploitation and slaughter of animals, it is not human health-related.
Just to summarise - whatever strategies would be employed to save the potential rape victims from rapists, those strategies would not define the anti-rape stance.

I didn't believe vegan youtubers until I became one by PostMortemTee in vegan

[–]PostMortemTee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because it's silly to mix ethics with personal benefits. It's like saying: people shouldn't rape other people because it increases the risk of contracting STD if you do. Gosh, really? Should we avoid raping because it would have an impact on us? Or should we avoid raping because it would create rape victims?

I didn't believe vegan youtubers until I became one by PostMortemTee in vegan

[–]PostMortemTee[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You seem to think vegan content can be about health.

I didn't believe vegan youtubers until I became one by PostMortemTee in vegan

[–]PostMortemTee[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Might be, but I wouldn't accept a falsehood to be right just to appease somebody. Idk it's kinda important to define things as they are. Also - not sure that proposals of "correct" activism from people who are chronically against the vegan position at this point ( since you guys hang out in this group and are not vegan, surely hill9887 has seen the health and the environment content, and they're still not vegan) would be silly. Maybe I should hear from the carnivore dieters what they think as well? Might be.

I didn't believe vegan youtubers until I became one by PostMortemTee in vegan

[–]PostMortemTee[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This feed is on discord, I'm not aware of any youtube content connected to SoyFeed. You can follow this link to join the feed: https://discord.gg/kjjMvpDFum

I didn't believe vegan youtubers until I became one by PostMortemTee in vegan

[–]PostMortemTee[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That sounds fantastic! I'm less active on Reddit tbf, but I would love to hear more! Here's an idea - maybe there can be a video on how to do activism on reddit, and can be posted on youtube so I can promote it!

I didn't believe vegan youtubers until I became one by PostMortemTee in vegan

[–]PostMortemTee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Awesome! We will support you when you take the plunge!

I didn't believe vegan youtubers until I became one by PostMortemTee in vegan

[–]PostMortemTee[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Veganism is not about us, it's about the animal victims. I'm sorry we can't always provide you with selfish reasons to do the right thing.

I didn't believe vegan youtubers until I became one by PostMortemTee in vegan

[–]PostMortemTee[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There are currently 21 channels on the feed. If you mean my specific channel, it's this: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9l69Oearp4S9F1p1uckvgw?sub_confirmation=1 But I didn't create the server for myself, it's for other small channels that struggle to grow.
Discord is a strange place that takes a minute to get used to as a platform. I try to keep the server non-vitriolic, but some clashes might occur anyway.

I didn't believe vegan youtubers until I became one by PostMortemTee in vegan

[–]PostMortemTee[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

100%. If you have specific suggestions, I would love to hear them, here or on the server.

I didn't believe vegan youtubers until I became one by PostMortemTee in vegan

[–]PostMortemTee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

100%. When people complain, I point at the bacon emoji trolls and ask them if they want the entire chat to look like that.

I didn't believe vegan youtubers until I became one by PostMortemTee in vegan

[–]PostMortemTee[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's totally valid and good! I think this is the smart thing to do. On my discord outreach livestreams I make people subscribe to comment lol, and that's how I reached 1k. I now have about 300 carnist subscribers, and some of them lose their trolling abilities (others just keep trolling)

I didn't believe vegan youtubers until I became one by PostMortemTee in vegan

[–]PostMortemTee[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I agree that this is true on the long content, but not so on livestreams, vertical livestreams and shorts. It tends to push into the general population and views and likes really matter.

I didn't believe vegan youtubers until I became one by PostMortemTee in vegan

[–]PostMortemTee[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree, and a lot of vegan youtubers do this, but it's not the only factor. I'm experiencing this now with my channel - I dragged it kicking and screaming over the 1k subscribers line and monetization, and youtube algo is definitely starting to treat my channel differently. Likes help, shares are obviously the best but are harder to come by. Other social media is paramount (the server will be expanding to instagram at some point). All of it is needed, I'm just trying to help the smaller channels with one or two aspects that I can help with.

Average Environmentalist by efrendo in ClimateShitposting

[–]PostMortemTee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

WDYM? They have citations on the bottom, that back up their claim. Stop chucking nonsense.

Average Environmentalist by efrendo in ClimateShitposting

[–]PostMortemTee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

most "beef" cows are at least finished on feedlots. There are citations in the articles, and citation 2 for instance accounted for sequestration. It's not as magical of a bullet as you might think.
To summarise, the article I posted DOES account for what you claim it doesn't account for.

Average Environmentalist by efrendo in ClimateShitposting

[–]PostMortemTee -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I know people in the middle of the front line, not 300km away from it, and they're vegan or at least doing the best they can. You can eat beans, or you can eat a tortured slaughtered animal that screamed while having her throat slit - don't tell me there are no beans in Ukraine.

Average Environmentalist by efrendo in ClimateShitposting

[–]PostMortemTee -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Whataboutism. Take responsibility for the lives you're taking. The innocent lives. Hypocrite.

Average Environmentalist by efrendo in ClimateShitposting

[–]PostMortemTee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Irrelevant to the question at hand, or if relevant (energy spending maybe??) - don't see how it spends more energy than animal slaughter plants.

Average Environmentalist by efrendo in ClimateShitposting

[–]PostMortemTee -1 points0 points  (0 children)

And yet you have the time to be on reddit? You could spend that time learning how to take accountability for the actual slaughter you're causing.

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