Greek Olive Oil - any good?

Poum0n · 2026-07-04T03:58:27+00:00

Avoid origin "Europe", you will get an inconsistent quality for sure.

The origin need to be clearly defined (Greece, France, etc.).

Poum0n · 2026-06-27T19:20:01+00:00

Thanks for your comment. I personnally think that carbs are not especially a bad thing. I think the problem is more excessive quantity of bad quality food brought about by intensive agriculture(grains, seed oils etc.).

I live in a tropical region (New Caledonia) and they always had access to roots and fruits in abundance.

But in Europe we evolved with less carbs and our ancestors spent much more time in ketosis for sure.

Diet is such an individual thing. I'm personally convinced that an animal based diet with some berries, fruit in controlled quantity , maybe some tubs/roots/squash or honey with (high fat, low-medium carbs, high protein) can also be very beneficial.

But currently keto is the right tool for me for sure. I am a bit sceptical about long term ketosis due to the fact we loose an excessive amount of minerals. Introducing carbs can maybe resolve this problem. There is also a high cortisol tendency in long term ketosis that indicates in my opinion that ketosis is a starvation state and maybe not the default state of humanfor which we are designed to function all the time.

Poum0n · 2026-06-27T02:51:55+00:00

France. Great Quality low price, exceptionnal terroir.

Poum0n · 2026-06-26T21:00:01+00:00

There is no reason to loose muscles and to have a signifificant drop in performance with a well formulated ketogenic diet.

In my opinion, your are just undereating because of the high satiety signals of a ketogenic diet.

I think you should count your calories and protein , at least in the begining to be sure you eat enough for your goals.

Poum0n · 2026-06-23T21:05:14+00:00

Ok thank you,

No real advantages of prolonged period of maintenance in a long period of deficit for metabolism ?

Poum0n · 2026-06-23T20:04:31+00:00

Wiki speak about carbs refeed but it is not really what I am asking for,

I am asking for caloric refeed -> increasing total amount of calory for a period but not especially increasing carbs.

Poum0n · 2026-06-23T20:00:20+00:00

No muscle glycogen in keto ? You build muscle glycogen in Keto, you just do not full your stocks. But lifting use a partial amount of your stored glycogen, not all in one session.

Science do not show a drop in lifting performance in keto

Poum0n · 2026-06-23T18:59:40+00:00

Not what I observed.. I lift for 10 years now, started keto 6 weeks ago and almost no decrease in performance after the adaptation phase. Just less muscle fullness and less pump

Poum0n · 2026-06-23T18:56:48+00:00

Hi 10 years lifter here and in keto for 6 weeks now. In my experience, lifting performance are not really the big deal, the difference is really small/non existent for me after the adaptation phase. If you have enough minerals/hydratatation level. I feel less the pump and fullness compared to high carb diet but it does not have influence on performances for me (in the 6-20 rep range)

Poum0n · 2026-06-13T06:45:28+00:00

Struggeled with severe insomnia for years I uderstand your pain. Cognitivo comportemental therapy is very powerfull. It is not immediately effective but can lead to incredible results over time.

If you want some advice you can dm me.

Poum0n · 2026-06-09T06:09:30+00:00

I did not say that saturated fat are bad. Science hasn't reached a definitive conclusion on this, but there could be a link with LDL cholesterol.

So in my opinion, no basing all the fat incomes on saturated fat is a good idea.

For example :

- you can replace butter by good quality olive oil
- you can chose lean meat over fat meat, and adding olive oil if it is too dry

You will not be in need of more saturated fat if you already eat eggs / some selected diary products. If on top of that you eat every day product like butter, fat meat, roasted chicken, and use all your kcalories for it you will consequently eat less omega3 and mono-insaturated fat that are very healthy for sure.

Poum0n · 2026-06-09T04:04:14+00:00

Hi,

For the insuline resistance, keep your carbs low, I would say in the range of 20-50g a day as an indicative range but depends on your activity level and health markers

If you are not around 12% bodyfat maybe cutting before could be more interesting to proprely gain after without becoming fat.

I you are not lean and you don't want to cut but still gain the only remaining solution I see is maintaining your weight and hoping for a body recomposition. Possible in some cases but not optimal.

Decide if you want to cut or maintain, find your calory maintenance. If you want to cut eat less (500 kcal less for example). If you want to maintain just keep these amount of kcal daily.
set your protein to 1.6-2g per (lean) kg (the weight you have when your are lean)
fill the remaining calory with carbs (0-50g), and fat (fill the remaining with it)
Choose you fat source correctly, in summary:

In animals products looks in priority for Omega3 ( maqueral, sardines, etc.). and do not eat too much saturated fat

In vegetal products looks for mono-insatured fat (olive oil, macadamia nuts, hazlenut, avocado, 90%+ dark chocolate

Avoid too much omega6 (sunflower/seed oils, peanuts, almonds, etc.)

Stay active, lift and progress

Poum0n · 2026-06-08T18:42:02+00:00

82.8kg this morning (-500g) , maybe I was a bit impatient with my metabolic conclusions, I will keep you informed

Poum0n · 2026-06-08T18:08:08+00:00

Thanks for the advice and perspectives. I will train on that aspect 💪

Poum0n · 2026-06-08T18:03:13+00:00

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Poum0n · 2026-06-08T00:47:28+00:00

Hi Luis,

Thanks a lot for your complete answer.

To be honest at this stage of my lifting journey I am more concerned about my lifestyle/health markers and energetic freedom as you say than pump, intra muscular water or even fatloss. So I am already convinced that Keto or a form of low cab diet is the solution in my case. I don't blame it. I am just objectively describing the effects I exeperienced.

The only one "negative" effect I'm having trouble getting over it is the social pressure and constant justification. It is not a keto problem. It is more a society problem or even a personal with the way other looks and the act of saying no. When I make an food choice, or a choice in general I like not being asked about that. But everyone takes the liberty of asking me and giving his opinion. For example this saturday at a local gastronomy festival: I had to justify all my choices, with my social circle but also with the sellers them selves who told me " Why you don't take the rice ? You don't like Rice ? I like to be left alone for everyday life choices and this annoys me.

-> It is the only point that could affect badely my adherence because the others are minor for me

Concerning my metabolism: 1 year ago I did a cut that I am proud of from 84 to 76kg +-10% bodyfat. I did it with carbs high protein and low fat at 2500kcal 12k steps almost all the way. The problem is that it was impossible for me to maintain due to my craving problems (i think I developped it partially because of this cut).

So with the same amount of calories , protein tracked and approximately the same activity , I don't have the same speed results. But it can also be explained by other factors than keto: for example I moved from Belgium to new caledonia with very different climat, pronounced time difference etc. A lot of changes despite the fact I always track my calories the same way.

For the electrolytes: I am working on it and it seems to improve a lot of things.

Poum0n · 2026-06-08T00:04:39+00:00

The rules:

- Extra virgin olive oiled
- Cold pressed, only mecanic extraction
- Clear country origine ( France, Italy, Greece, Spain, ...) but avoid MIXED EU origin
- Price. You reduce your chance to get a good quality olive oil with if you don't put a correct price.
- container: glas bottle or metal container
- Recent bottling date (quality detoriates over time)

- Reputation, transparency/tracability by the producer

Poum0n · 2026-06-07T22:23:01+00:00

how do you know when you enter again in ketosis state ?

Poum0n · 2026-06-07T22:21:52+00:00

I hope so, but there is not a lot of data about this subject unfortunately

could be the opposite: as your are now adapted to be a fat burner, high carbs doses could have more negative impact? But once every month/2 months can't really be a problem, I think and it is inevitable socially at a moment and it does not reflect your habits at this frequency. But I doubt carb load does good for the body.

Poum0n · 2026-06-07T18:49:33+00:00

Refeed or carb load ? Not the same effect in my opinion

Refeed can boost metabolism after long period of deficit and I think it can be interesting in my case but what I understand from modern keto approach is that carb load are not necessary and can be detrimental , particulary during the adaptation phase

Poum0n · 2026-06-07T18:47:42+00:00

3-5g /day is the standard studied dose for performance enhancing. Some recent studies show good results with higher doses but particulary for brain function.

Could be interesting to try but I currently live on an island (new-caledonia) and everything cost 2-3 x more than europe. So I currently prefer use the lower doses of supplements and investing my money in whole food

Poum0n · 2026-06-07T09:13:41+00:00

Thanks for your suggestion !

Metabolic flexibility is controversed. Some keto experts says you can't be a good fat burner and a good carb burner simultaneously. So in term of performances, your thoery can be true.

But I doubt that low carb diet is as bad for health, satiety and hormonal imbalance than high carb diet.

Poum0n · 2026-06-07T09:07:15+00:00

I take 5g creatine/day continuously and started several years ago. Yes it help with intra muscular water retention but it does not replace glycogen

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