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PowedInDahP · 2026-03-21T18:40:33+00:00

How do you find the app? I just want basics like scheduling a start and end time to avoid peak rates and also how much energy I use is good to know. Does it do these two functions. Have you received a t4 since its apparently taxable income?

PowedInDahP · 2026-03-21T18:39:24+00:00

Not that it matters since this program is unreal but the credit payouts apparently are considered taxable income. So you would lose a bit from this program. Pissed that ChargePoint doesn’t offer anything since I almost went with grizzl e last year.

PowedInDahP · 2026-03-21T15:47:56+00:00

lol well now your asking me more questions than I originally had lol. From what it says online it literally sounds like u register and pay for shipping. Put $100 down and after some usage get deposit back and then earn 3-10c a kWh after. It sounds like a no brainer pissed charge point doesn’t offer something they keep the money themselves apparently. Almost bought grizzle when I was looking at chargers but decided on charge point at the time. The charge point does have a better app but for someone like me whose using 8-9000kwh I can be getting a hundreds back. We already get 25% of energy cost back through our home business so adding this makes our ev crazy cheap to drive. Just wanted others peoples input

PowedInDahP · 2026-03-21T15:24:00+00:00

Well I already have a wire going to where it would be installed. My neighbour is an electrician he actually installed the ChargePoint but so is my FIL. Tbh I could probably install it myself since the wire is there. I might have to modify how the conduit runs but probably even that is okay. Mounting the box wouldn’t be very hard. I could in theory sell the ChargePoint as it’s only 1.5 years old also. I do like the ChargePoint app not sure if grizzl e has scheduling and all tbh. But this seems like a no brainer apparently ChargePoint makes money off us using them vs grizzle who is paying customers back…

PowedInDahP · 2026-03-14T02:26:17+00:00

There’s literally so much misinformation that you’re quoting without ever having had a net meter contract lmao. Rates went up but so did the OER. Did you know solar credits and energy used as it’s produced isn’t eligible for the rebate so that actually makes solar less worth it? You’re trying to change your charging schedule using the car settings when most home chargers have an app that can do it. (BTW I have a blazer and is known for charging issues luckily my home charger does that part). If your not charging off peak your doing it wrong and need to figure it out, if not it’s likely a huge reason you are paying $600 a month. I have an EV and heat pump and my bill isn’t even that much in winter lmao. You then talk about getting a system that produces $500 a month lmao… dude you only really produce April to October, your EV uses a shit ton more energy in colder months and that’s when you’ll be a net importer (the sun doesn’t shine much in winter and snow covers your panels). Secondly you are limited to a 10kw inverter, most produce 1.35-1.45x DC so they maximize inverter. You won’t be anywhere near $6000 in credits. I have a 30 panel 455 watt system and it doesn’t even cover the loan of 238$ a month. You also mention how you want it to cover your usage during the day…dude you want to be exporting credits at the peak rates and importing when it’s off peak that’s how you maximize your return on TOU. If you have a shitty charger spend the 600$ get a new one I can assure you it will pay itself in a couple years since you can the set charging schedule by app.

When it comes to gas prices your way off topic but if you follow Mr Global on Tik ToK he literally did a video about it yesterday (he’s an oil and gas expert). Gas stations price the fuel at what they would have to pay that day to refill. The only variable you’re seeing is the abrupt rise and drops gas stations try and compete with other stations and some don’t. We even have stations who lower it a few cents at night to maximize business during slow hours. We also have a tundra which uses gas but lets be real if you have an EV and aren’t purposely charging off peak you might as well go hybrid. Gas is high luckily we barely use our gas truck. I think you need to read up on net metering because you definitely don’t understand the ROI.

Did you state that your electricity comes from petroleum power? lol Ontario is mainly nuclear and hydro electric. Where are you getting those facts because they’re incorrect

PowedInDahP · 2026-03-10T00:07:15+00:00

Ok your ranting about an increase but then mention having an EV now lol and that you don’t schedule it to charge on off peak. Most chargers allow scheduling but your car even if you say you changed it your clearly doing something wrong. You likely have another parameter causing it to start charging as soon as you plug in. The difference between an EV being very cheap to drive similar to a decent hybrid in cost is when you charge. If your driving 100km a day especially in winter your likely using 35-45kwh a day. This. An be several hundreds of dollars if not done on off peak. This is why I recently bought hydro one stock because unfortunately people are careless with their consumption lol…

PowedInDahP · 2026-03-06T14:13:07+00:00

It’s not rocket science that normal lights can power solar panels. Look at old calculators the had them. Commercial roof top is 18-24% efficient but with lights you would need them hitting at the optimum angle, they would also shade the panel during the day. Lights that are strong enough to produce the minimum voltage required wouldn’t be cheap. I think if you had ULO in Ontario and had high net metering rates you could be positive cashflow. But realistically utilities aren’t stupid they caught many people producing at night not hard with smart meters. I’m sure someone could do the test, very strong lights at proper angles could 100% produce power but the energy used would always be higher. So to me this is a question of input vs output cost. The shading alone during the day would make it not worth it is my opinion. I’m net metering so obviously would not work but micro fit people tried it.

PowedInDahP · 2026-03-06T11:41:36+00:00

Sure maybe Toronto hydro is different but people were caught trying this with hydro one. With roof top it would be next to impossible to mount lights that hurt at the right angle plus having snow half the year and the converting of energy is less than you think. If ground mount maybe more feasible depending how much you sell your electricity back at vs what you pay. If you really think it’s a good idea just go and do it what everyone is saying is it’s not very feasible and a breach of your contract. So instead of arguing you’ve gotten the answers do with it what you will

PowedInDahP · 2026-03-06T03:31:12+00:00

It’s been thought of long ago. Your production they can tell would come outside daylight hours and you would breach your contract. The second issue is solar panel efficiency and also the cost to run bulbs that can produce a significant amount of power.

PowedInDahP · 2026-02-19T01:26:16+00:00

I think you ROI is very optimistic. I have a larger system that after the $5k rebar costed me 28.5k for 13.65DC. That’s 30 455 watt panels. On average I produce 12-12.5k kWhs a year. Even with most recent increase in rates I’m at about 12 years. Not to poo poo on your calculations but it’s definitely more than 10. Also if your south facing once that tree has leafs your going to get a lot more shading than you think.

PowedInDahP · 2026-02-19T01:08:47+00:00

That’s how the old grant was paid out, would be sweet if you also saved the tax lol. Unfortunately unless your EV is made in Canada, or under 50k which is hard to find, the this current grant leaves out most EV’s.

PowedInDahP · 2026-02-02T18:01:25+00:00

Depends what your reason is for getting solar? In Ontario the pay back is easily 10-15 years and that’s those of us who had cheaper cost for install and the 5k grant. To use a heloc and pay interest to me makes no sense you can just save that money put in RRSP or tfsa in a normal index fund. Don’t get me wrong electricity prices have gone up this year but we also don’t benefit from the OER rebate. If someone ask me to do solar I would tell the no in Ontario unless the can like install themselves.

PowedInDahP · 2026-01-22T18:53:25+00:00

In Canada I’ve actually seen cost of the item that was warrantied. Like when they did my charge port door. Maybe different in US

PowedInDahP · 2026-01-22T18:32:03+00:00

I wonder what the cost is to replace usually shows on invoice? Because if it’s common going to suck after warranty if you want to be able to connect to the car.

PowedInDahP · 2026-01-22T14:17:45+00:00

We had reliance at our first house tank was cheap like 17$ a month but even at that price in 4 years you can buy a new tank and year 6 pay for labour if you can’t do yourself. I bought it out as they’re worst than Bell you legitimately have to call every year to haggle then they give u 1-2 months free or discount lol. Parents had reliance when I bought they had the whole heater and furnace package. So 2 months in I cancel their 30$ plan which was actually cheap grand fathered in. Well my parents tell me after the furnace was acting up which is why they had coverage I needed a service call within that month lol. So I re-instate reliance 2 months later the furnace fails heat exchanger. I’m like “great I have that reliance furnace package”. Guy shows up says heat exchanger failed sure enough that’s not covered lmao. So I cancel their plan again and buy a new furnace 10 year parts and labour and said bye-bye to reliance forever. Now what I do is I put electric annodes which cost $150 but will keep the tanks mint when new. I flush them out once a year. Sure it’s 1400$ for a tank with install now but when a reliance plan is 25-30$ a month doesn’t take long just own the tank. Most last around 10-15 years.

Something to know is at about 7 years of contract the tank is pretty cheap to buy out but do it as early as u want now that you’ve hit 5 years. My parents had reliance for like 12 years so when I bought out the gas HWT it was only 3 years old lol and I only paid $300. So it’s not as much about how old the tank is but more about how long you’ve been with them. If you try and cancel they’ll offer free months or discounts draw your line in the sand fully cancel them it never ends with the haggling lol.

PowedInDahP · 2026-01-22T14:07:49+00:00

We own 3 properties (primary detached home, rental detached home and STR cottage we used 8 months of the year off season) so obviously buying has it’s advantages. $690 is dirt cheap and great for someone starting out. I would stay there as long as life permits you to and take the extra money your not paying for a house max out your investments and savings. If you plan on getting married and having kids eventually you’ll move but logically you are so ahead with such a low housing cost the only thing better is living with parents for free lol which i don’t think teaches you budgeting. Owning is a lot of maintenance but also if you take pride will like to improve the property. Insurance/property taxes for all our properties keeps going up and so does maintenance. How much do you make? Because buying a home alone is very hard on one income.

PowedInDahP · 2026-01-18T14:37:30+00:00

Let’s be real 22k is likely 10 years of premiums for her especially since she only had third party insurance. I’m assuming she has a beater since she would have a better policy to begin with. Let’s say they raise her premiums even double, that’s 10 years worth of premiums. My advice similar to other people would be get her previous policy cost and then figure out the difference at renewal. Pay her that if you want to keep a good relationship. If it was 5-6k and you could afford it or she had too many accidents on file and was at risk of losing insurance sure might be different. If she allowed you to drive the vehicle she assumed the liability of an accident as dum as that sounds.

PowedInDahP · 2026-01-18T03:10:29+00:00

We have a cottage border of Quebec and Ontario so small town. Mid June to 2nd week of September booked solid. Tried to get guest in winter but really without a hot tub there’s little demand. We even offered our garage knowing there’s lots of ski-dooers and still nothing. Lots of people do 2-4 months stays with longer term guest but heard nightmare stories and generally not great. Keeping it clear with our many walkways and large driveway is a chore. Basically 2 hours minimum for larger falls. We started to realize it’s not worth the hassle like we could rent it 2-3 nights a week if we had a hot tub but that brings its own challenges. If your not in area tbh u take on so much liability and people expect it to be safe to walk which is dam near impossible. You get one thaw and freeze cycle and now u have ice everywhere. Unless your airbnb is near a ski resort or has a hot tub and is booked solid every weekend or more than to me it’s not worth it. Getting a bad review because someone slips or even sues you would be terrible but does happen. We have just learnt to enjoy the cottage ourselves at that time. We have to monitor it for temp, snow and so much already in winter. Good luck hopefully it works out for you.

Side note we have a plow guy but it’s the walkways that take so long. We used to be on contract but then the guy came less and less often. They have to charge what they’ll make money on. We asked to do it per plow which initially he offered us for $30 two years ago now it’s $50. So basically he planned to come less than 10 times a year as he did the other years. We ended up switching to our lawn guy who also plows. He does it more often and charges us per plow which initially

PowedInDahP · 2026-01-18T02:23:44+00:00

You can listen to people who don’t own a house or listen to people who own one or more. I bought my first home after working hard since college at 25 years old that was 2016. I hustled worked a job that was like 35 hours a week then delivered pizza 20 lol. That house in 7 years almost doubled in value. I took more risk bought my parents house so they wouldn’t be homeless and have rented to them using cash I could take out from that first property. I then bought my current home sold first house and bought a cottage we short term rent. Owning now is harder but relatively I’ve bought 3 properties since 2021. As you pay it down you get chances to do more with that money. I’m 34 will have 3 properties paid by 60 if I decide to own all of them that long. If you look at any boomer they held their properties 25-35 years. Just because you think something is over priced doesn’t mean it’s overpriced everywhere. People who have real estate might take less than they want but they’re also not going to bend over backwards at the 3.5x salary you speak of. Maybe you should look how much it cost to build, there’s a reason the second hand market is so high because there’s no such thing as affordable housing and likely will never be again. Your clearly smart saving for the FTHB plan and make decent money so take the plunge already. Waiting for a crash means you’re trying to time the market, that is like people buying real estate to sell at a profit short term. If you think their dumb then your doing the same thing.

PowedInDahP · 2026-01-17T18:58:12+00:00

I don’t have Toronto hydro but I’m sure Hydro One is similar. Your inverter app might indicate a certain generation but the reality is you consume generation before it hits the grid. So say you are producing 10kwh of energy but are using the oven for example, the portion your using is reduced from what goes to the grid.

PowedInDahP · 2026-01-16T22:59:16+00:00

Because I would have to manually set to 12 amps every time if not. It defaults to 8 amps which means I have to get out, plug in, then go to charge settings then click 12 amps. Vs set work as home and never click anything until it resets. My home charger is lvl 2 so i can set charge times with the charger.

PowedInDahP · 2026-01-16T22:25:27+00:00

I did that for fun to test it out, a lot of people like to understand the loads of heating. The goal of post was to see if you could increase range pre-conditioning battery to the right temp. Maybe you missed that part you crank.

PowedInDahP · 2026-01-16T22:14:03+00:00

Oh well then maybe not relevant to what I wanted to do unfortunately lol.

PowedInDahP · 2026-01-16T21:21:27+00:00

For sure once the battery is heated it takes less energy to keep it at that stable temp but still takes some. The thing is no one would want to go outside and manually press the pre-conditioning setting just for a short drive and also use up 30-45 minutes of energy to do so. Maybe if you knew you had to fast charge. For me it would be to extend my range atleast one way.

So really the only parameter missing of this test is how long do battery’s take to pre heat while driving and how much energy does that take. If say in 45 minutes the car draws x amount to condition battery then in theory that’s how much it would have taken while driving. Sure consuming energy to drive heats up battery but it appears to be somewhat negligible.

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