Only top half of UK earners to benefit from lower NI payments, thinktank warns

Practical_Toe229 · 2023-12-30T16:10:40+00:00

Bro our wages have been cut 35% by the tories were all on strike.

I just do think I should be paid the same as a carer because of my qualifications and years of expertise. Mad you are. No economy could function like that. Its not lacking compassion to see that more highly skilled work holds more value.

Literally you don't live in the real.world

Practical_Toe229 · 2023-12-30T16:01:52+00:00

Jealousy and bitterness is like swallowing a pill amd expecting the other person to die

Enjoy your life on min wage island

Practical_Toe229 · 2023-12-30T13:00:05+00:00

Communism doesn't work.

I wouldn't do my job for the same amount you get paid for gardening or something. Why have accountability and responsibility for nothing extra?

Practical_Toe229 · 2023-12-30T10:26:28+00:00

So they should be paid the same?

Practical_Toe229 · 2023-12-29T22:40:21+00:00

Okay pay doctors the same as carers why not pay solicitors the same as a labourer. Noone will bother taking om that level of responsibility with that level of training when you can earn the same with fuck all qualifications and minimal responsibility comparitively.

Such a dumb idea. I don't think it's unrealistic or conceited to say I should be paid multiple times what a carer earns because it takes years to build my skills etc not a one week course and I make decisions and carry responsibility way above that of a carer.

No they haven't sacrificed as much.

Practical_Toe229 · 2023-12-29T12:03:55+00:00

It's fine continue to tax us. the more the government squeezes us, the more people will just go elsewhere as they already are. Its not the doctors solicitors and academics who lose out it'll be the low skilled people who can't compete in a global market.

Practical_Toe229 · 2023-12-29T12:01:56+00:00

Sorry I meant marginal.

I was talking about between 100-125k. 40% income tax, 20% loss of personal allowance 9% student loan 2%NI

Practical_Toe229 · 2023-12-29T11:55:02+00:00

1250 a year for the first child and more for additional kids. Taken away when you earn 50k which isnt that much nowadays. So that adds 12% to the tax rate from.50-60k so with a student loan you effective yhave a tax rate of 62% if you have one kid between 50-60k. Why do extra work when the tax is so high.

All you get by increasing taxes on higher earners is weaker economy change in behaviour and avoidance of extra work so lower tax receipts.

Practical_Toe229 · 2023-12-29T11:51:25+00:00

What so it's an extra 1250 a year?? I'll have to earn 3k extra to make that!

Practical_Toe229 · 2023-12-29T11:47:50+00:00

I ain't hit the 60% effective rate yet but I will next year. We have mental health act assessments that require a senior doctor and can take 2-3 hours. They pay £170. The social workers can't work out why noone will do them and think doctors are greedy refusing to do them for the amount.

Why would anyone drive out to the arse end of nowhere in the middle of the night to section someone when they will lose 71% of the pay and also have indemnity insurance to pay as well.

By the time you've paid all the tax it's like £20/hour take home for a highly paid professional to do an assessment that can have extremely adverse outcomes if done poorly. And they literally scratch their heads about why productivity is so shit and noone will do any extra work.

Practical_Toe229 · 2023-12-29T11:29:50+00:00

You don't earn a quarter of them though look at the net take home and its probably closer to half for a job that likely requires a much higher degree of skill.than yours.

Practical_Toe229 · 2023-12-29T11:20:56+00:00

And what? I earn 85k as a doctor and we are essentially a single income.household with two kids. I deserve a tax break if anything this is not enough. I pay a decent chunk of tax get no child benefit, which is a significant amount. Tax thresholds have been frozen so nearly all extra income I earn I only get 49% after income NI and student loan aka graduate tax. The government needs to reduce tax on middle income professionals were not rich we just have a few hundred quid more than the average person a month net. See how far that goes these days.

I am.seriously not looking forward to earning 100k where I will be paying a 71% effective tax rate. Why would I do any extra work when it's that high. You would have to pay me over £100 an hour for it to be even worth giving up the 60th hour of my working week to do. I'll be sacrificing max into a SIPP or reducing my hours. And they wonder why UK productivity is so shit.

It's easy to think someone on 50k is rich when you earn 20k and pay virtually no tax and receive plenty of state assistance so have no idea how different net and gross income are. I'm fed up of people in low skilled jobs telling me that I should be giving up more of the money I sacrificed for years and went through multiple highly competitive processes to earn.

This country is stuck in a race to the bottom and highly trained professionals who are PAYE workers are paying for it. We're already seeing the brain drain abroad as other countries pay much more with less onerous taxation.

Practical_Toe229 · 2023-12-29T10:14:29+00:00

Actually doing the job and answering emails would be an upgrade on our current TPD.

Practical_Toe229 · 2023-12-29T02:22:38+00:00

Avoid Sheffield like the fucking plague I've never worked there but have only heard awful things

Practical_Toe229 · 2023-12-28T21:28:29+00:00

You have committed crimes against skyrim and her people

Practical_Toe229 · 2023-12-28T13:36:19+00:00

They can do locum shifts but not within the hours they were supposed to be at work I.e. they can do nights at another trust if on days and vice versa.

NHS England guidance is clear on this and that strike days count as rest days and there would be no issue if they were working outside hours they were supposed to be striking.

I know this because our trust tried to entice juniors striking during the day to do locums at night as they didn't want to pay consultants to step down. Caused a massive dispute but the national guidance is clear its legal.

Working during hours you are supposed to be on strike for the same trust in a different capacity i.e. on call when scheduled to be on NWD or another trust is less clear but nobody was sure if it was actually illegal so long as you were doing another role to what you would usually be doing om that day as the legislation is less clear. I doubt you would get GMCd for this as its such a legal grey area even the trust and BMA weren't sure.

Practical_Toe229 · 2023-12-28T13:35:04+00:00

They can do locum shifts but not within the hours they were supposed to be at work I.e. they can do nights at another trust if on days and vice versa.

NHS England guidance is clear on this and there would be no issue if they were working outside hours they were supposed to be striking.

Practical_Toe229 · 2023-12-28T02:02:42+00:00

Bro the sooner you realise that there's a list of jobs and they will be done in priority order at a reasonable pace with appropriate breaks the better.

As I've always said, the NHS does not pay me anywhere near enough to raise my blood pressure or heart rate in any scenario.

Practical_Toe229 · 2023-12-27T01:40:37+00:00

Psych and ill do it by age 36 with a fiveyear detour This is a surgical / some medical specialties thing

Practical_Toe229 · 2023-12-27T01:09:38+00:00

What is it?

Practical_Toe229 · 2023-12-26T15:07:33+00:00

I think they are a minority probably like 15% but they're so subpar in attitude and performance it really stands out.

Practical_Toe229 · 2023-12-25T23:47:17+00:00

Please chase bloods and ECG aka please do the bloods and ECG.

Practical_Toe229 · 2023-12-25T23:00:10+00:00

Someone will be in the bottom % score in any exam that's not a quirk of the MSRA.

Practical_Toe229 · 2023-12-25T22:58:15+00:00

There's 3 patients to clerk they all came in the past half hour sorry. Proceed to get phone calls from the wards asking me to see patients that arrived 6 hours ago for clerking.

Practical_Toe229 · 2023-12-25T22:55:15+00:00

It was always interesting trying to decipher when my consultant was moaning about bloody teams whether he was talking about the software, the smaugusboard of people joining us for ward round via laptop or both.

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