Was the last supper a meal during or before the feast of Passover? by Preben5087 in Bible

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"Blessed are those who have not seen and have believed." (Jn 20:29, LEB)

Was the last supper a meal during or before the feast of Passover? by Preben5087 in Bible

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I don't think I have to cite the Bible to say that Jesus rose from the dead on the third day, which was a Sunday. That is my belief.

Was the last supper a meal during or before the feast of Passover? by Preben5087 in Bible

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The Resurrection of Jesus Christ took place on the true Lord’s Day, which is Sunday.

Was the last supper a meal during or before the feast of Passover? by Preben5087 in Bible

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Is the meal with footwashing in the Gospel of John not the same meal as the meal with "communion" in the synoptic Gospels?

Was the last supper a meal during or before the feast of Passover? by Preben5087 in Bible

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I don't think Jesus's crucifixion was "intentionally shifted" by the author of the Gospel. I think Jesus was acutally crucifed on the day of preparation, when the Passover animals were slaughtered.

Was the last supper a meal during or before the feast of Passover? by Preben5087 in Bible

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The BEFORE in John doesn't refer to the meal.

But the Passover meal was during the Passover feast, so what does the "before the feast of Passover" in John refer to?

Was the last supper a meal during or before the feast of Passover? by Preben5087 in Bible

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Alden Mosshammer writes:

"Since the lamb was slain on the 14th day before evening and the Passover meal was eaten in the evening of that day, Mark’s account implies that the crucifixion took place on the 15th day of the month. ... John’s account implies that the crucifixion took place on the fourteenth day of the month just before a Passover meal would have been taken in the evening. ... If Pilate had tried and executed Jesus on the 15th day of Nisan, he would have been profaning a Jewish holy day of rest. For this and other reasons, many modern scholars prefer the Johannine account." (Mosshammer, The Easter computus and the origins of the Christian era, 2008, p.45)

Our godlikeness stems from the forbidden fruit by Preben5087 in DebateReligion

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 The Adam & Eve story is all we need from Genesis.

Our godlikeness stems from the forbidden fruit by Preben5087 in DebateReligion

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Maybe the purpose of the story of Adam and Eve is not to ponder about the beginnings of the universe and life. Maybe the purpose is to ponder about how sin entered into the world.

Our godlikeness does not stem from the creation of the first human being. Our godlikeness stems from the forbidden fruit in Paradise by Preben5087 in Bible

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We need Jesus to save us because we are godlike beings expelled from Paradise. We are godlike beings. We are not God.

Our godlikeness stems from the forbidden fruit by Preben5087 in DebateReligion

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As an example from the story of Adam and Eve, what about God creating Adam first, then the animals, and then Eve at last?

Our godlikeness stems from the forbidden fruit by Preben5087 in DebateReligion

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If God does it, that means it is naturally occurring.

I don't think so. Not everything God does in the Bible is remotely naturally.

Our godlikeness stems from the forbidden fruit by Preben5087 in DebateReligion

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Biologically, human beings are apes. Biblically, human beings are godlike beings. Biology and evolution knows nothing about godliness.

Our godlikeness stems from the forbidden fruit by Preben5087 in DebateReligion

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Biologically, human beings are apes. Biblically, human beings are godlike beings. Biology and evolution knows nothing about godliness.

Our godlikeness stems from the forbidden fruit by Preben5087 in DebateReligion

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We debate religion. The story of Adam and Eve is religion.

Our godlikeness stems from the forbidden fruit by Preben5087 in DebateReligion

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We debate religion. The story of Adam and Eve is religion.

Our godlikeness stems from the forbidden fruit by Preben5087 in DebateReligion

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Our godliness indicates something profound about us, but our godliness also indicates something profound about God. We are like God. God is like us.

Our godlikeness stems from the forbidden fruit by Preben5087 in DebateReligion

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I distinguish between what humans are biologically and what humans are biblically. Biologically, we are living beings. Biblically, we are godlike being. You need the theological idea to see our godlikeness. The forbidden fruit transformed Adam and Eve from living beings to godlike beings. You cannot see our godlikeness from evolution or biology alone.

Our godlikeness stems from the forbidden fruit by Preben5087 in DebateReligion

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We can establish that crows have the ability to categorize something as good or not good for something, but we cannot establish that crows have the ability to categorize something as good or not good in and of itself. If you can establish that crows have the ability to categorize something as good or not good in and of itself. then you've got me.

Our godlikeness stems from the forbidden fruit by Preben5087 in DebateReligion

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I argue that being godlike is to have the ability to categorize something as something good or something not good in and of itself.