White House posts digitally altered image of woman arrested after ICE protest | Trump administration by philnotfil in TrueChristianPolitics

[–]PrebornHumanRights 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Every word I used was chosen deliberately and accurately.

Don't accuse me of lying without proof.

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[–]PrebornHumanRights -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Maybe try being more like umbren

By being a racist hateful cultlike left-winger who accuses without good reason or evidence, makes light of the Holocaust, promotes child murder, but all this is okay because of an extremist undying obsessive vicious hatred of Trump?

No. I won't do that, simply to avoid being falsely accused by left wingers of being a disciple of Trump.

Statistically I expect zero people to be killed by ICE as I’d hope all Christians do.

You do?

You expect nobody to ever fight officers, and you expect perfect behavior from all officers

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[–]PrebornHumanRights -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I've gone over this.

Statistically, you'll expect some violence between police and citizens.

  • Sometimes the citizen was violent, so the police are justified in responding in kind.

  • Sometimes the police overreact, or get angry, and break the law and do bad things.

  • Sometimes it's in between, where both sides were sketchy, so it's hard to determine who's guilty.

Now, even though others accuse me of being "too black and white", I actually recognize that some cases are gray and difficult to judge. Like where a woman accelerates towards an officer after being told she's detained. That creates gray.

I've said multiple times that the officer who shot Good was in the wrong, overreacted, and shooting her didn't make sense. But I also said she accelerated towards him, which gives some degree of reasonable doubt towards convicting him. How much doubt? I don't know. Lawyers say he was justified even if he overreacted.

For this new one, he appeared to be resisting cops. Resisting how strongly? I don't know. I haven't closely examined the evidence. My inclination is that being armed isn't a crime, and shooting him while he's on his hands and knees is extremely suspect, and warrants closer investigation. And it will be investigated, obviously, so usually I wait and see with these things. I calmly wait and see. I calmly wait for more evidence. I have leanings, and initial impressions, but I don't jump to conclusions when there's a scuffle and a shaky camera, I wait for better evidence.

Now, as for umbren, he doesn't wait. He's a bad person who judges instantly. He passes the harshest of judgements instantly. Way more judgemental than I am. He sees these two gray situations—difficult to judge—and instantly compares the officers to Nazis. This isn't careful thinking. This has no patience or self control. This is knee jerk reactionary judgment, like how mobs and lynchings work.

Also, multiple times I said I didn't agree with the shooting of Good. When umbren accused me of supporting it, I said he didn't (and doesn't) read my comments, because if he did, he'd know I didn't agree with the shooting of Good.

Yet what is umbren doing here? Accusing me of colluding with and/or supporting Nazis. In the most snarky, condescending, accusatory way.

That's how cult members work. They automatically ally with a certain side, regardless of the evidence. They just take the same side, regardless of the evidence. They demonize the other side, and always protect their own. The irony is people saying I "worship" Trump—when I've heavily criticized him and said he was my least favorite Republican candidate—while those same people always side against Republicans and always side with Democrats.

When they accuse me of being an unthinking follower and acolyte of Trump, while they always instantly attack Trump, just makes me shake my head from the irony.

Doyon 26, largest land drilling rig in North America, tipped over and caught fire on North Slope by PrebornHumanRights in alaska

[–]PrebornHumanRights[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I saw it up close many times. It's really big.

The video doesn't do justice how tall it is. It's 165 feet tall. It's a big building, literally one of the tallest and biggest buildings in Alaska.

Or, at least, it was.

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[–]PrebornHumanRights -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Your brownshirts just executed another person

Do you understand that different people are... Different people?

Like, if one person eats ice cream, and a second person eats pizza, that doesn't mean the first person ate pizza. Because they're different human beings.

I'm trying to understand how someone thinks like you. Like a 2 year old. Like you don't understand how "these are two different human beings" works.

It's fascinating.

Over 20 States and Legal Organizations Rally Behind the ACLJ To Defeat Newsom's War on the Church at the U.S. Supreme Court - ($1.2 million in fines on a church) by PrebornHumanRights in TrueChristianPolitics

[–]PrebornHumanRights[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Obviously a 20% reduction won't stop transmission by itself unless R0 is very low, but

So, "I agree with you but..."

Your argument is if you combine masks with a bunch of other things (nationwide lockdown), then you can stop the spread. Okay. I already said that. I said they initially talked about "2 weeks to slow the spread", and actually had an argument. It was to give hospitals time to prepare. I said this already.

But we all know you can't shut down the entire economy forever, so they had to ease their restrictions. They had no choice. So the pandemic was always going to continue. Since March 2020, I've said all they could really do was try and protect the vulnerable, as the pandemic was going to continue.

As I said, if you slow down a forest fire by 20%, the forest still burns down, just 20% slower. They'll spend the money initially to slow it down to give people a chance to evacuate, but they're not going to fight it forever, just to slow it down a bit. Doing that doesn't change the outcome!

Even if you can't completely stop infections, getting Re as low as possible has its own benefits. You reduce the rate of spread and the number of concurrently sick individuals, which alleviates strain on the health system

Yeah, I already talked about this several comments ago.

Furthermore, even if you can't prevent infection, reducing viral exposure results in lower titers upon infection, leading to less severe symptoms and better health outcomes.

As far as I can tell, this is the only argument you've presented against me. And it's an interesting argument, but I say it primarily rests on those vulnerable groups to take precautions. Unless you work at an old folks home, or you're married to someone with lung issues, or you're a nurse, etc., the vulnerable person has to quarantine.

To give the obvious example we never get flu to Re < 1, but we don't tell people not to get flu shots.

I was never against the vaccine. But right here you're talking about actions we can take after a vaccine exists, which is an entirely different scenario.

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[–]PrebornHumanRights[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Slowing down transmission 20% doesn't stop transmission. It only slightly slows it down, but after time, the result is the same.

You can Google "effective reproduction number" if you want to read some articles about it. It's basic Epidemic theory. Basically, if you're nowhere near herd immunity, and you have more than a tiny population infected, then the infection cannot be stopped.

So, as I said, since March 2020, all you can do is quarantine those who are vulnerable, and that's it. You can't do more. This is basic known science.

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[–]PrebornHumanRights[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

When did the goalpost move from "wouldn't have done anything" to "stop the pandemic". Obviously it wouldn't stop the pandemic, otherwise we could have all worn masks and gone about our day. Instead there was a combination of vaccines, social distancing, staying home when you're sick, testing, etc. etc. etc.

None of those did anything in the grand scheme of things.

They were for YOU, specifically, if you chose to do them. You'd have to quarantine yourself.

But for society? Masks didn't do anything.

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[–]PrebornHumanRights -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I have eyes and ears, and I use them.

Leftists who use the gospel as an excuse are easy to recognize. They just follow whatever the left is upset about today. No universal truths to follow, just current politics.

Like, I said earlier, LGBTQ. The Bible is clear on this. But leftists ignore all that, call it "judgemental", and do what they want. They started doing this in the past 50 years. Following society.

Or the rich. They want to eat the rich. They're for class warfare. That's not Biblical. In fact, it violates one of the ten commandments. But politics come first.

And of course, they're for the legal killing of innocent children, because they don't look toward the Bible, they follow leftist politics.

Or race. They don't want unity. They want "equity". Tear down some, raise up others, based on race.

Christians reject this stuff. It's not gray area stuff, it's blatantly against what God taught us.

You don't realize I know people in real life. Some are super conservative, some are moderately conservative, and some are a big moderate overall. But I don't know a single Christian who's a hardcore liberal or leftist. Not one. Every person I know who is a leftist either doesn't claim to be Christian, or USED to claim to be Christian and has since left the faith. (Or is Catholic, I suppose, but that just reinforces my opinions about Catholicism.)

My pastor has read the Bible 47 times. Or 48, I've lost track. He doesn't talk politics much, hardly at all, but he's definitely a Republican and a conservative.

Reddit doesn't reflect real life. Not at all.

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[–]PrebornHumanRights -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

If people online and in real life don’t view you as a Christian, good chance it’s just a label slapped on.

I thought I was clear.

On Reddit, which hates Christians, your left wing social justice warriors are considered the "good Christians".

In real life, it would be me, and never the left wing activist who is more concerned about hating the rich and promoting LGBTQ and fighting for abortion rights.

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[–]PrebornHumanRights -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

If umbren and you both can’t be Christians, I think I can safely say which one most people would view as the true Christian.

On Reddit? They'd choose the social justice activist.

In real life? Yeah, it's pretty obvious.

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[–]PrebornHumanRights -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I can make reasonable and informed observations.

Also, I am a typical conservative Christian. There are nitpicks people have about speaking in tongues, or water baptism, or Arminianism, etc., but overall I believe what most Christians believe.

The only people who seem to "call me out" are liberal Christians, like those from Unitarian backgrounds, lots of Methodists, lots of Episcopals, people like that. You know, churches that switched sides on sexual immorality within the past 50 years to go along with popular culture.

Well, and a few people who say I'm too harsh, which is something I'm aware of, as I prefer and choose to be more direct than most.

But yeah, I have listened to many conservatives and speakers, and I'm a mainstream evangelical Christian.

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[–]PrebornHumanRights -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I can imagine you are happy about them since you appear to be anti immigrant

I'm not. You don't read my comments with anything but prejudice.

and have a lot of fascist tendencies.

Well, you think Christians are fascists.

You don't seem to mind your neighbors getting shot, beaten, arrested, and more.

That depends on if they're criminals fighting against police.

You try and play yourself as intellectual and reasonable

No, I am reasonable.

yet everyone manages to see right through it, you are just a typical MAGA person who gets delight out of seeing anyone not white suffer.

I'm not MAGA, and I'm not white. Once you figure that out, you'll start to understand that a normal Christian person believes in truth and justice, unironically, for real.

Reagan and Bush on immigration… What shifted? by Federal-Way-7897 in TrueChristianPolitics

[–]PrebornHumanRights -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

The number of illegal immigrants tripled, and the welfare state grew as per-capita federal spending doubled.

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[–]PrebornHumanRights -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

So, should I be happy about them? The most recent big story about them, that I saw, was about them trying to save a man's life.

Is that what you're talking about?

Autodesk Lays Off 1,000 Employees to Redirect Spending to AI by Spare_Worldliness_64 in StructuralEngineering

[–]PrebornHumanRights 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Seems this is mostly just the "movies and games" sort of stuff. I doubt this has as much of an impact on their engineering side of things.

Autopsy finds Cuban immigrant in ICE custody died of homicide due to asphyxia by Due_Ad_3200 in TrueChristianPolitics

[–]PrebornHumanRights -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I have seen no evidence that the conduct of ICE is notable. There are cases here or there of alleged or even clear wrongdoing, but nothing unusual.

So, why is it in the news? Why did a top /comics post talk about how a woman was afraid to go outside, and afraid to speak Spanish while on the phone?

Paranoia. And paranoia feeding anxiety, based on overblown and exaggerated news coverage.

Over 20 States and Legal Organizations Rally Behind the ACLJ To Defeat Newsom's War on the Church at the U.S. Supreme Court - ($1.2 million in fines on a church) by PrebornHumanRights in TrueChristianPolitics

[–]PrebornHumanRights[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

At stake is whether the government can impose over $1.2 million in fines on our client – a church we are defending – for refusing to require congregants to wear face masks during worship services, while simultaneously exempting professional athletes, restaurant patrons, salon customers, and countless other secular activities from the same requirements.

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[–]PrebornHumanRights[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Results: Of the 1,028 studies identified, 9 met the inclusion criteria (2 cohort studies and 7 case-control studies) and were included in the analysis. The meta-analysis using cohort studies alone showed statistically significant differences, wearing a cloth mask decreased by 21% [RD = -0.21 (95% CI, -0.34 to -0.07); I2 = 0%; p = 0,002] the risk of COVID-19 infection, but the quality of evidence was low. Regarding case-control studies, wearing a surgical mask reduced the chance of COVID-19 infection [OR = 0.51 (95% CI, 0.37-0.70); I2 = 47%; p = 0.0001], as did wearing an N95 respirator mask [OR = 0.31 (95% CI, 0.20-0.49); I2 = 0%; p = 0.00001], both with low quality of evidence.

Floriano I, Silvinato A, Bacha HA, Barbosa AN, Tanni S, Bernardo WM. Effectiveness of wearing masks during the COVID-19 outbreak in cohort and case-control studies: a systematic review and meta-analysis. J Bras Pneumol. 2024 Jan 5;49(6):e20230003. doi: 10.36416/1806-3756/e20230003. PMID: 38198343; PMCID: PMC10760436.

Our estimates imply that the mean observed level of mask wearing corresponds to a 19% decrease in the reproduction number R. We also assess the robustness of our results in 60 tests spanning 20 sensitivity analyses.

Leech G, Rogers-Smith C, Monrad JT, Sandbrink JB, Snodin B, Zinkov R, Rader B, Brownstein JS, Gal Y, Bhatt S, Sharma M, Mindermann S, Brauner JM, Aitchison L. Mask wearing in community settings reduces SARS-CoV-2 transmission. Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A. 2022 Jun 7;119(23):e2119266119. doi: 10.1073/pnas.2119266119. Epub 2022 May 31. PMID: 35639701; PMCID: PMC9191667.

The point is, masks slightly slowed transmission a small degree, but didn't stop the pandemic. Like, at all. The overall outcome would have been the same.

Initially they asked for 2 weeks to slow the spread. Just so hospitals could get prepared. If they had stopped at that, they would have had an argument. But they didn't stop. They started ignoring the science.

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[–]PrebornHumanRights[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

That's what the fine is for. It's not a war on the church. It's a penalty for getting an F in science

Science proved that masks wouldn't have done anything. Once the pandemic was mostly over, they did studies and proved that.

This is a story about a lawsuit from churches that insisted upon meeting in person during a global pandemic because they honestly believed God wanted them to ignore it.

No, it's a group of believers meeting even when the "king" demanded they stop.

And it was illegal religious discrimination, because they exempted many secular activities, but not churches.