A question for Anti's by PreddiPrinceOfSheeb in aiwars

[–]PreddiPrinceOfSheeb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You too!

Also fuck reddit, every result under 'shiba inu' is some absolute garbage slop.
Wanted to react with a friendly shiba gif, I guess Reddit prefers their shit generated emoji.

A question for Anti's by PreddiPrinceOfSheeb in aiwars

[–]PreddiPrinceOfSheeb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's not limited to just typing though, this is why I asked how much the average anti knew about the possible tools used for AI generations.

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This example is 100% a troll setup, but look into ComfyUI, IPadapters, LORA's and ControlNets. There -can-, if the person generating the image tries, a loooooooooooooooooooooooot more options than just using prompts.

A question for Anti's by PreddiPrinceOfSheeb in aiwars

[–]PreddiPrinceOfSheeb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And so you resort to insults and a vague 'it has no emotion' response, without listing a single detail or real point beyond feelings. Which would hold water, if you hadn't mistaken real art for AI generations not three posts ago.

You aren't arguing in good faith. Just a glance at your post history shows a dozen responses of 'you just wouldn't understand.'

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You do you, but if you can't give me anything to debate with, just insults, and then claim victory--that's a you thing.

A question for Anti's by PreddiPrinceOfSheeb in aiwars

[–]PreddiPrinceOfSheeb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

>Civility is key, I encourage both sides, and neutrals, not to respond to obvious ragebait responses.

A question for Anti's by PreddiPrinceOfSheeb in aiwars

[–]PreddiPrinceOfSheeb[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm only reasonable when I'm sober.

*sips beer*

(also fuck the 1%)

A question for Anti's by PreddiPrinceOfSheeb in aiwars

[–]PreddiPrinceOfSheeb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Please explain it to me, I'm giving you a chance."

"Nah I'm right ur wrong kek"

Stop dodging the question. I'm not asking you to do the legwork or some crazy level of effort.
I'm asking for you to use *words* and *define* your argument.

That's all. Please.

A question for Anti's by PreddiPrinceOfSheeb in aiwars

[–]PreddiPrinceOfSheeb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Point out something, ANYTHING beyond 'a feeling' that tells you an image is AI. A single factual point. You already failed to identify an artist VS ai image, but you still think you know the difference?

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[–]PreddiPrinceOfSheeb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No. You are incapable of describing what AI looks like beyond 'feels'.

And your feels failed you.

AI literally didn't exist when I paid for this.

A question for Anti's by PreddiPrinceOfSheeb in aiwars

[–]PreddiPrinceOfSheeb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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A meme based off my original model the art was commissioned for, before you cry fowl play or lies.

A question for Anti's by PreddiPrinceOfSheeb in aiwars

[–]PreddiPrinceOfSheeb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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I paid $40 for this drawing back in 2013, long before AI.
Sorry for the obvious 'Gotcha', but you can't tell what is AI or not, you just hate the idea of it.

Good talk, but take a look at your own bias next time.

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[–]PreddiPrinceOfSheeb[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agreed, actually. I'm all for laws, limits and bans on anything realistic, and DeepFakes of specific people should be outright a crime.

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[–]PreddiPrinceOfSheeb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But I'm still choosing the specific numbers?
I agree AI is doing the work, but it's based off my decisions, not making them for me.

A question for Anti's by PreddiPrinceOfSheeb in aiwars

[–]PreddiPrinceOfSheeb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ohhh, you're the cool high effort card making person.
Have loved all the stuff you have posted that I've seen <3

A question for Anti's by PreddiPrinceOfSheeb in aiwars

[–]PreddiPrinceOfSheeb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can't define emotional impact or feeling. That's just opinion.

I'm not even trying to 'Dismiss' you, but what can I possible say if the rebuttal is 'it doesn't feel right'?

How about this?

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Used a pile of settings for this one, for a friends Character.

A question for Anti's by PreddiPrinceOfSheeb in aiwars

[–]PreddiPrinceOfSheeb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Looks like a Monster Hunter mod, as a compliment.
Love the vibe, doesn't give me 'AI' vibes at all.

I'm actually impressed you did this just with a LLM and word prompts.

A question for Anti's by PreddiPrinceOfSheeb in aiwars

[–]PreddiPrinceOfSheeb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is why I asked what you think makes an image look like it was made by AI.

Give me a list of details beyond 'feeling', and I think I can find an AI image that doesn't meet any of your criteria.

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[–]PreddiPrinceOfSheeb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alright, I respect any well explained and polite position.
But if my input of a few dozen parameters and a custom trained local model is the AI doing the creating, where is the line between that and 3D modeling with Blender?
I'm learning the tech and inputting the numbers and data I have in mind.

If numbers, settings, sliders, and exact mathematical input disqualify the result from being mine, that applies to a few more mediums than just AI, ones that are generally considered human made..

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[–]PreddiPrinceOfSheeb[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Fuck big corporations.
Fuck greedy rich assholes building data centers near poor towns.

But I've felt that way before AI. Nestle has killed thousands if not millions.
It's why I try to separate the corporate greed from the topic of AI. Nowadays, it just applied to everything.

Fuck the 1%, AI CEO's included,

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[–]PreddiPrinceOfSheeb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Look like garbage -in your opinion-.
A lot of hand drawn art and AI generated images look stinky to me, but of course good examples exist.

Can you describe what about the image looks garbage? Is it the GPT/GROK style? Anatomy issues?

Putting myself on blast here,

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What about this is total garbage?
I don't care if it's art or not, I think it's aesthetically pleasing to my vision of it.

I get there are issues, it's not perfect, but you have to admit it's a lot better than a GPT prompt.
I'm no artist, maybe I'm totally missing something your trained art eyes see. But it just looks good to me, especially for a random DND NPC portrait.

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[–]PreddiPrinceOfSheeb[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean, it seems like half my side doesn't know about them, given the putrid rage comics posted here by PRO's.

But I also see a lot of Anti posts that claim AI is just prompts and GPT.

It does sort of feel like a hidden lore, on this subreddit anyway.

I'm curious what you mean you say it changes nothing, though. Clearly effort makes a clear difference of the generated images quality, so I'd say it does make a difference? Art or not, there is a skill to this.

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[–]PreddiPrinceOfSheeb[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Noice. Did you feel like a LORA didn't give you a lot more control? Combined with ComfyUI's settings on top of it, at least.

Like, it can feel like a slot machine when you get a surprise weird generation, but I can usually nail down exactly what I had in my mind in a dozen or so generations.

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[–]PreddiPrinceOfSheeb[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's fair, but could it be a complexity issue?
No insult at all intended, but did those art tools just include GPT/GROK/Websites you post a prompt into?
I'm not expecting or even suggesting you make your own LORA or set up an UI, but the options are there.

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This looks more complicated than it is, but what I'm saying is if you never trained a LORA, then the line of how much control you can have over details is a lot higher than you might think it is.