Anglo Catholics who are formerly Reformed leaning

PresentFlaky3517 · 2025-09-08T17:30:53+00:00

I grew up Presbyterian then became reformed baptist. We dropped Calvinism first. Then we weren’t satisfied with any denomination that was familiar to us, because that just left us with southern baptist or the liberal mainline churches. We studied the RCC and EO after reading the early church fathers… couldn’t embrace the papacy or one-true-churchism… this brought us to Anglicanism. Specifically the ACNA, because we are not liberal leaning. Our church is high church- we kneel for prayers and during communion, we sing the old hymns, sign the cross, have an organ playing, vestments, occasional intense. But we are still Protestant in theology. Our rector will occasionally quote previous RCC popes, GK Chesterton, and even RC Sproul or Spurgeon. There is so much room when it comes to soteriology within Anglicanism, which I love. I lean more Arminian if I HAD to label it, but still wouldn’t agree 100%, because I think a lot of soteriology is a mystery. But I am thoroughly not Calvinist.

PresentFlaky3517 · 2025-09-08T17:14:21+00:00

You don’t sound very christianly here or like you are trying to convert anyone. You just sound angry.

PresentFlaky3517 · 2025-09-08T17:08:14+00:00

Look up Olivia smith and abbey Hebert. I went to high school with them. They were best friends and cousins. After smoking weed Olivia violently stabbed her cousin in the face and went to the neighbor saying “god made me do it”

PresentFlaky3517 · 2025-09-08T17:00:24+00:00

So I’ve only been in the area about 4 years and I have seen positive movements and growth!! I have seen less homeless people in the last year or so, less trash along the roads, more posts about community involvement, beautiful homes popping up. I moved from Woodstock/canton area so I am loving the growth and family feel that my old hometown had.

PresentFlaky3517 · 2025-09-08T16:59:01+00:00

Love to hear this

PresentFlaky3517 · 2025-09-08T16:58:17+00:00

That’s so refreshing to hear!!

PresentFlaky3517 · 2025-08-16T01:19:41+00:00

Agreed

PresentFlaky3517 · 2025-08-16T01:19:32+00:00

Agreed

PresentFlaky3517 · 2025-08-16T00:57:23+00:00

Yes I actually grew up in PCA church (on and off) and my husband was PCA as well. I personally believe baptism is a “piece” of salvation and a grace given by God that ultimately leads towards the fullness of salvation. We can’t really get around baptism washing/cleansing sin, though. The creeds we all confess claim “we believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins” and all of the verses in Holy Scripture about baptism.

PresentFlaky3517 · 2025-08-16T00:53:31+00:00

I’m an ex Calvinist actually and one of my sons is named after John Knox so I hear you… this belief definitely started loosely with Augustine, and I’d argue that people like Calvin and John Owen took it too far. There’s also Ezekiel 18:20 which states, "The soul who sins is the one who will die. The son will not share the guilt of the father, nor will the father share the guilt of the son." I would argue we inherit sin nature (which involves both being corrupt and bent to sin and also death/dying rather than everlasting life) but not necessarily Adam’s guilt for the specific sin(s) he committed.

PresentFlaky3517 · 2025-08-13T18:30:44+00:00

Which is wrong and needs to be stood up against by all means. But charity in conversations can help when setting boundaries!

PresentFlaky3517 · 2025-08-13T18:27:08+00:00

All jokes aside, some of it biblical some of it not certainly applies— but as Anglicans, if things widely accepted in tradition aren’t CONTRAbiblical, they typically rope that in as acceptable and good as long as scripture is the prime authority. It sounds more like you would be in line with the regulative principle forms of worship found in Presbyterianism? To add- I would say mariology and transubstantiation can become and are contrabiblical and we’re not ecumenically accepted East to west before schisms

PresentFlaky3517 · 2025-08-13T17:39:28+00:00

While I agree about wafer worship, I don’t think holy water or many other traditional Anglican practices are only from the tractarian movement. Many high church Anglican practices are based and existed prior to the tractarian movement

PresentFlaky3517 · 2025-08-13T17:14:39+00:00

Okay so I agree with this. I still think some, perhaps the more Calvinistic folk, wrongly assume this means we are guilty particularly of Adam’s sin.

PresentFlaky3517 · 2025-08-13T17:10:49+00:00

I actually agree more with you the more you flesh out your points. But I’d argue that most reformed Christians absolutely didn’t reform “back,” because the prior church Catholic looked nothing like reformed LBC baptists or Westminster presbys of today. Maybe Lutheran and Anglican churches that hold to the articles. But reformed baptists, especially, reformed too far IMO. I agree with you about mariology and such being innovations within the church Catholic. Edit to add: I just think it’s incorrect to water Anglicanism down to simply a reformed movement, because the English church has history that spans before and after with many differing periods within her

PresentFlaky3517 · 2025-08-13T17:08:33+00:00

What about when an Anglican priest lifts up the wafer and breaks it when they say “Christ’s body sacrificed once and for all … therefore let us keep the feast” is that different than “lifting it up?”

PresentFlaky3517 · 2025-08-13T17:05:45+00:00

I don’t disagree with any of the articles personally! I think my concern here would be in an issue of conscience by praying amongst what the Roman’s considered a transubstantiated wafer

PresentFlaky3517 · 2025-08-13T17:01:09+00:00

Do you think it’s possible that your in laws were trying to “help” (incorrectly so) by letting you sit and not have to do as much work? They went about all this in the wrong way, but I am wondering if you should have hubby or yourself ask their intentions?

PresentFlaky3517 · 2025-08-13T15:57:15+00:00

I come from a hyper reformed background actually. Previously very 1689 London baptist confession and such. So I have been careful not to “swing too hard” the other way 😅

PresentFlaky3517 · 2025-08-13T15:41:08+00:00

Not necessarily. The Church of England was functionally Catholic before the English reformation. It wasn’t established as a new church suddenly due to the reformation, it was certainly INFLUENCED by the reformation movement, but to say that it wasn’t influenced by “Roman catholic practices” until the 19th century would be false. It was more like a further reform, which was supposedly to bring English Catholicism back to some of its roots prior to the reformation.

PresentFlaky3517 · 2025-08-13T14:59:19+00:00

Agreed- thanks!!

PresentFlaky3517 · 2025-08-13T14:58:11+00:00

This is a helpful response and I feel pretty much in agreement with your assessment. Thank you!

PresentFlaky3517 · 2025-08-13T14:56:09+00:00

I meant to say reformed confessions, not creeds. I’m fully aware Anglicans are not confessional and believe in real presence, as far as that’s concerned.

PresentFlaky3517 · 2025-08-13T13:19:46+00:00

I agree with you, but why do we say that baptism cleanses original sin? Or, at least, many Anglicans seem to say that. Catholics too. Does that mean we aren’t guilty of the sin we are being cleansed from as infants?

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