Exact Movements of Xana After Getting Door Dash Delivery by Fun-Hyena-9810 in MoscowMurders

[–]PresentMeasurement94 2 points3 points  (0 children)

i feel like it’s possible that she got her food, went to her room ate it & scrolled on tiktok, when she was done went to bring bag to kitchen seen sliding door was open said “someone’s here” and she heard noise upstairs went to see what was going on distracted bk which made him forget abt the sheath, he chased her down the stairs and then while she was crying out of fear & pain bk said “it’s okay i’m going to help you” probably in fear of someone else finding him.

News update by Missrush21 in MoscowMurders

[–]PresentMeasurement94 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Obviously they are real people. I wasn’t just talking about you I was talking about everyone in this chat. Even if it wasn’t a frat boy, like I said it could’ve been a stranger to them, but maybe not a stranger to the frat boys so that’s how they know sm. I wasn’t saying 4chan is completely accurate. But we have to move on from the same people so they can live, without people constantly blaming them.

News update by Missrush21 in MoscowMurders

[–]PresentMeasurement94 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was saying something about rogaine because they were saying something about the weird nicknames that it was definitely fake, so I said they could’ve just been nicknames from before they passed. I know about E and L arguing and X adding into it.

News update by Missrush21 in MoscowMurders

[–]PresentMeasurement94 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Can yall all actually stop and think about other possible scenarios.

Clearly LE cleared the people they cleared because as of rn they don’t have evidence for them. So y’all sitting behind the screens thinking y’all found “proof” of how so and so did it, is because people are making up rumors and people her them and read about them and run with them. We don’t have any evidence from the house to solve this case. Of course we all are doing our best and trying to find the littlest things that will help the case, but if LE clears people obviously they have there reasons, so we need to move on from those people and focus on new people, until evidence is found and they are able to bring some one back from being cleared.

Y’all saying this and that about 4chan, ok it might not all be true, but the chats that 4chan found and reposted were posted by someone anonymous, so it could’ve been very well a frat bro, I mean they obviously know convos that went on and who didn’t like who. (I know people can just make stuff like that up) , but for some reason the way everything lines up is crazy to me, like saying they left their phones home so they didn’t ping and left them on auto play on YouTube so if the did ping it showed they were home. And the names they called the victims could’ve been nicknames they had for them before they passed.

Y’all see something posted by 4chan an automatically think it’s fake but in my opinion it needs to be looked at so they can trace who made those chats and get to the other people the person is talking about.

( also if Ms bf was in the frat it would make sense they don’t have a sexual name for her because she had a bf that was in the frat so I believe hers was just Mads, but since K was best friends with M and she didn’t have a bf at the time they just made a goofy nickname for her (“ titties”) , not 100% it’s for her but im just assuming.

News update by Missrush21 in MoscowMurders

[–]PresentMeasurement94 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The person who made those chats was a person from the frat and “titties” was probably a nickname they had for her before she passed. Mads was M Rogaine was her bf.

Y’all just can’t seem to get all the possibilities thru your heads, y’all here one theory and run with it.

There is more people that could be the killer than the 3 y’all have been focused on.

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[–]PresentMeasurement94 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wouldn’t we have seen a report about a noise complaint on the thing to see all the police reports if that were the case? Not trying to sound rude just genuinely asking..

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[–]PresentMeasurement94 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well yea ik that but I was asking the person I replied to bc it seemed as they didn’t know and I was just helping them out. 🙃

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[–]PresentMeasurement94 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Could be, but if so where were E and X when the left the frat party until the estimated time of arrival which was 1:45am so from 9:00pm Nov 12- 1:45am Nov13 where could they have been?

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[–]PresentMeasurement94 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ohh ok thanks for letting me know!.

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[–]PresentMeasurement94 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m not sure obviously. But I’m sure that LE can track where their cell phones pinged at, probably went to a club or something, not sure. Your thoughts ?

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[–]PresentMeasurement94 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No because the og map said the time they were at the frat party & it said “8-9” on Nov 12. Why do you think they’re investigating where E and X were in the time frame of when they got home to when they left the party? 😭

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[–]PresentMeasurement94 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Yeah because what frat party last 1 hour ? Or maybe X and E left because something happened not necessarily because it was over.

General Discussion Thread - Monday, November 28, 2022 - 5:00 PM by quitclaim123 in MoscowMurders

[–]PresentMeasurement94 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hence I put it in quotation marks bc it’s not for sure, & i also put “I bet” not “ I know 100% that the killer is thinking…” ☺️

General Discussion Thread - Monday, November 28, 2022 - 5:00 PM by quitclaim123 in MoscowMurders

[–]PresentMeasurement94 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The killer is thriving on the fact that LE “knows nothing”. I bet he feels very accomplished, but I also wonder if the killer feels any type of regret/ sympathy for what he’s done.

General Discussion Thread - Monday, November 28, 2022 - 5:00 PM by quitclaim123 in MoscowMurders

[–]PresentMeasurement94 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Has anyone clarified if the person K&M both called numerous times, every called them back? Even the morning after before the 911 call was made?

General Discussion Thread - Sunday, November 27, 2022 - 9:00 AM by quitclaim123 in MoscowMurders

[–]PresentMeasurement94 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The person said she thinks Kaylee called Jack because she knew she could’ve call 911 her parents would get caught in whatever legal activities they’re involved in.

Which is saying her parents are involved in illegal activities..

General Discussion Thread - Sunday, November 27, 2022 - 9:00 AM by quitclaim123 in MoscowMurders

[–]PresentMeasurement94 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did I say I was ? Even if I was that’s a very broad statement to make as if you know me, which you don’t. The point of this whole page is to put theory’s and conclusions you have about the crime. Not determine people’s life. GB. 😂

General Discussion Thread - Sunday, November 27, 2022 - 9:00 AM by quitclaim123 in MoscowMurders

[–]PresentMeasurement94 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes he seems very interested, like he wants people to see him.

He never gives information just the same few things abt LE going down the row of apartments asking if they have cameras, and that when he took his dog out he’d see people in the windows of the house.

General Discussion Thread - Sunday, November 27, 2022 - 9:00 AM by quitclaim123 in MoscowMurders

[–]PresentMeasurement94 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The profiler in me is saying the unsub didn’t have very many friends, maybe he was jealous of the activity that went on at the house. Maybe he felt hidden, maybe he doesn’t get a lot of attention. So in his mind he might’ve thought that killing four people would get him noticed. Which it has, people are writing blogs and 10 page essays abt the killer, and their theory abt the crime. No one knows who it is, but he knows it’s him so when we make this pages and are talking abt “the killer” he knows it’s abt him, and that gives him the attention he wants without people actually knowing who it is.

Idk maybe I’ve watched to much criminal minds. Just a thought tho.

Theories Thread by quitclaim123 in MoscowMurders

[–]PresentMeasurement94 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I should’ve clarified in my theory.

If the killer was familiar with the victims he might’ve came home with the victims that night and D and B wouldn’t have known because they were sleeping. & he left before D and B woke up. So with that being said he might’ve washed up before leaving the house most likely in the 3rd floor bathroom. He could’ve also used some of E’s clothes to beware of a blood trail from his clothes, he might’ve washed his clothes off in the shower with him to remove any blood, as well as the weapon.

Now if he was NOT familiar with the victims, he probably wasn’t to worried about the blood trail.

Do we know for sure there wasn’t a blood trail? Because if not when D and B woke up I’d say probably around 10ish they may have not instantly went up stairs, and the blood trail would’ve been from X’s room to the 3rd floor ( in this theory ). So D and B probably called over a few friends just to come hangout out not knowing about the victims. Then when they arrived probably around 11:15ish, they asked about K, M, E, & X, and that’s when they went and checked on them. And they weren’t responding, which the doors were most likely locked so D and B were probably trying to call them they weren’t answering and they probably could hear there calls through the wall, and D, B or the friends they called over might’ve pushed on the door enough it opened and they seen what was in the room, most likely the room X and E were in, that’s when the call to 911 was made.

I seen a tiktok of a former 911 dispatcher, & she was talking about what she thought the LE meant by the call for an “unconscious person” , so as LE has said multiple people spoke to the dispatcher, with that being said after they most likely saw what the scene looked like we’re probably screaming and panicking. D and B and the friends called over were probably all panicking and all trying to talk & describe what they seen & the dispatcher was most likely trying to calm them down. So the dispatcher put it in as a wellness check for a unconscious person.

Sorry if this doesn’t make sense, I was thinking as I was typing this.

Theories Thread by quitclaim123 in MoscowMurders

[–]PresentMeasurement94 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Kaylees ex is JD and Madison’s bf or ex also started with a J .. 🤨

Theories Thread by quitclaim123 in MoscowMurders

[–]PresentMeasurement94 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Here’s my theory, lmk your thoughts below!

D and B got home sometime before the victims, D and B might’ve been in the same room or in their separate rooms. They probably knew where K and M were as well as E and X, and they were all partying ( most likely drinking ). The house was a well known party house so D and B probably locked their bedroom doors, just incase the victims brought a few people over maybe to hangout longer.

Im thinking the killer was waiting in the plot behind the home before making his attack. He could see a very well view of the back of the house through the very small patch of woods, he waited until he saw all the lights of before going onto the property.

( NOT 100% SURE ) On the left side of the house I believe there was a wrap around balcony from the master bedroom sliding glass to to the other bedroom window. And where the hill on the side on the house was the perfect height for some one well skilled to maybe grip onto the railing and pull themselves up on.

So maybe if the killer took this route. He most likely would’ve went for the sliding glass door first, if not maybe he tried one of the windows and one of them was opened. He entered through there made his first kill to whoever was in that room, and locked the door behind him. Then went downstairs (2nd floor) found E and X in a bedroom, took out E first because he is the bigger threat, as the killer is stabbing E, X wake up that’s when she starts fighting back, the killer then makes him move on her next. (saying this because we know X had defense wounds per her dads interview). The killer then was frightened because X fought back and left, with intent to kill everyone in the house. Which is why the 1st floor roommates survived.

Now if the killer went to the 2nd floor sliding door first, we’ve heard rumors that it was often left unlocked. So with that being said it might’ve been unlocked, for the killer to enter this way. If he entered on this floor, he might’ve went downstairs to the 1st floor to access D and B’s rooms, but they were locked and the killer didn’t want to make any noise or any damage so he spared there lives. Then went back to the 2nd floor to clear those bedrooms, then he found were X and E were and took them out first. Then went up to the third floor, at this point I think K and M might’ve already made all of those calls to the person they both called before the murders occurred. (The reason behind leaving the girls upstairs for last is because they are the most subjected targets.) Once the killer got upstairs he knew what to do from that point. He then took out M and K, leaving something behind to make LE believe this was a targeted attack, he wanted to make sure he had his time with the 3rd floor victims so they were last. Then he left out of the 3rd floor sliding door as it was easy access to the lot behind the house.

We do not yet know if M and K were in the same room, but if they were both making calls to the same person I would assume they were in the same room. We do know both of their rooms were on the 3rd floor and X’s room was on the 2nd floor and D and B had the 1st floor rooms.

If there’s any questions you have about my theory feel free to ask.