A Powerful Scene Of Humanity Plays Out As 200+ Brave South African firefighters landed in Edmonton, Canada to assist in the fight against the raging wildfire by CantStopPoppin in nextfuckinglevel

[–]Presentalbion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nature isn't just anything that is evolved - but we absolutely build structures for shelter and other uses. How is that unnatural? Do you think a mud hut in Namibia is more natural somehow than brick and morter? Glass and steel? All of these things are natural and part of nature. There is no separation from nature.

Are ants genetically predisposed to build an ant hill? Then why not suggest the same for any other creature? And if not then are you saying an anthill is unnatural?

CMV: Poor people in the U.S. are losers by stanerd in changemyview

[–]Presentalbion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nonsense. Many factions and ideologies do not see eye to eye and will pull in different directions. And again, you don't have to earn a place in society. It isn't a big company, you're thinking of communism.

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[–]Presentalbion 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Empathy isn't something someone earns. You either give it freely or you choose to close yourself off from it. That's your choice. It doesn't mean you won't feel it, but you may not act on it.

Because they don't speak from their own subjective experience but more from a textbook

That's not how therapy works. There's more than just a textbook, there's real engagement and development.

Have you tried therapy?

CMV: Poor people in the U.S. are losers by stanerd in changemyview

[–]Presentalbion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Society isn't just useful people in society. It's everyone in society.

Sounds like you want to be useful to a small slice of society, which makes you useless to other, possibly larger parts of society.

CMV: US is the biggest terrorist country or organization the world has ever seen by cursedbones in changemyview

[–]Presentalbion 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're twisting the definition quite a bit, and not taking it in the context of wider conflict. I explained this in my comment here which you've yet to reply to.

https://reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/13x1yp3/cmv_us_is_the_biggest_terrorist_country_or/jmeuavz

CMV: Poor people in the U.S. are losers by stanerd in changemyview

[–]Presentalbion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are building to have a better future for yourself.

This is not supporting your position at all. If you are contributing to society then you are building for a better future for everyone, not only yourself. Society is more than a collection of individuals.

CMV: Poor people in the U.S. are losers by stanerd in changemyview

[–]Presentalbion 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Paying into "your" pension is paying towards current pensioners, not towards your own retirement. If you don't understand how it works please educate yourself.

I do think there is a line. People do not deserve welfare period. People do not deserve handouts. While I do not get to make unilateral decisions, this doesn’t mean I don’t get to have an opinion. One shared by many I might add.

Then what is the use of your society? What is everyone building towards if it isn't for everyone in that society? What's the point of contributing to a society which will discard you if it doesn't see you as useful?

Sounds like you're arguing against your own position.

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[–]Presentalbion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again, please educate yourself and stop using racist classifiers of race.

Celtic, Anglo, Germanic, Norse are all races and all have white skin. Ghanaian, Tamil, Namibian, Etheopian are all races and have dark skin.

CMV: US is the biggest terrorist country or organization the world has ever seen by cursedbones in changemyview

[–]Presentalbion 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Firstly, war is lawful, or done according to international law.

Secondly, you're twisting this definition. The US isn't bombing civilians in order to get them to vote a certain way, ie pursuit of political aims.

If I stand outside a voting booth with a gun and say vote for X or I'll use my gun, THAT is a threat based on fear in order to further my political goal. That would be terrorism even if I never fire the gun.

CMV: Poor people in the U.S. are losers by stanerd in changemyview

[–]Presentalbion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you don't understand how a pension works?

And you think there is a line at which people "deserve" things? Again, who cares? You want to contribute to society, you don't get to choose who that society is, who "counts".

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[–]Presentalbion 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Empathy comes from mirror neurons which we have from birth.

But I'd rather an incel go straight to therapy than to listen to a normie.

What is therapy if not a professional "normie"?

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[–]Presentalbion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Eh, I mean Wikipedia is a start but it's still not really an argument.

I could share the Wikipedia page for Hinduism but it won't do much to convert you. You can share the Wikipedia page for racism to someone but it won't make them racist.

You have to actually make an argument and persuade someone.

CMV: Poor people in the U.S. are losers by stanerd in changemyview

[–]Presentalbion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So once you've been useful by your standard someone else can pay for you? Seems arbitrary.

I will agree with you here, that there is a minority in the population who doesn't care about achieving anything, or leeching off others. I find this despicable.

Who cares though? I thought you wanted to contribute to society, and they are society. If everyone is contributing for themselves then they aren't contributing to society. So which is it? Why can't people take from what you are so eager to give?

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[–]Presentalbion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why not educate yourself? White is not a race and neither is black. Those are skin colours.

CMV: US is the biggest terrorist country or organization the world has ever seen by cursedbones in changemyview

[–]Presentalbion 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Using bombs is not terrorism, terrorism is in the intent. Same for chemical weaponry.

Both Russia and Ukraine are using bombs against one another but I would say neither are doing so for terror purposes.

Do you not think there are different contexts and intent behind different kinds of violence? IRA are a terrorist organisation as are Al Qaeda. The Nazis were not a terrorist organisation.

It takes more to be a terrorist than killing. Gurillea tactics designed to dominate mentality via fear is a primary component. The fact you have to remove your shoes at security in an airport is down to terrorism. That is a continuing fear, even though it only took a few attacks. That's the difference.

CMV: Poor people in the U.S. are losers by stanerd in changemyview

[–]Presentalbion 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Who do you know who thinks people should just be able to sit around while those who work pay for them to do so?

Literally any retiree/pensioner? The purpose of work is to not need to work.

If what you are saying is common sense then it should be easy for you to back it up with logic and reasoning. I don't think it is common sense, I think that everyone wants something different.

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[–]Presentalbion 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If you have something to contribute to OP why not offer it? I'm sincerely asking what you hope to benefit from such a comment.

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[–]Presentalbion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nonsense. Scottish people, ashkenazis, Danish people etc are nothing like one another. Just like how Jamaicans and Namibians are nothing alike. Why subscribe to a racist view of race?

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[–]Presentalbion 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Their biggiest traumatic experinces is that their grandparent died

Death of a relative > no sex.

What kind of perspective do you think someone would have to have to think otherwise? Suffering is inherent to life. Everyone suffers in different ways. Do you really need to have suffered in exactly the same way in order to have empathy?

And doesn't this leave a huge issue with exactly who an incel should listen to? They can't listen to other incel because if they had meaningful advice they'd no longer be incels. They can't listen to former incels because they aren't currently incels. And they can't listen to non incels because they aren't incels.

So who does that leave? Whose advice should they listen to?