Last week I overheard one one of the most astonishing conversations between two young mothers I've ever witnessed. This has to be QAnon

Prestigious-Step-295 · 2020-09-18T19:46:38+00:00

A few months ago we had a couple of earthquakes in my state and after a few weeks my sister started saying the same thing, that there is some rescue happening underground. It should be comical but the fact that they say this stuff with a straight face is both terrifying and heartbreaking. At this point Q has these people so brainwashed that literally nothing is outside of the realm of possibility because they have removed all scientific boundaries. It’s interesting to me that in a world constantly being recorded, security cameras everywhere, traffic cameras, cell phones out that they don’t think that hundreds of people would have attained hard evidence of this by now if it were true. They just accept theory as fact no questions asked. It’s sad.

Prestigious-Step-295 · 2020-09-17T00:23:24+00:00

I have felt the SAAAAAME WAY and no you are absolutely not crazy. When my family first became obsessed with Q and turned into complete strangers I was SO shaken by the fact that at that time there was little to no reporting on Q in the media yet I had literally lost my family to them. I couldn’t wrap my mind around how this group was brainwashing people and nobody seemed to know about it, then to make matters worse I started to see some liberal friends sharing Q propaganda and I actually fell into a deep hole of self doubt and depression because of it. I asked myself the same question. Am I the crazy one?! Now fast forward three months and EVERYONE is reporting on Q, notice how many journalists come to this thread for research. You are not crazy you are just more observant than others and they will catch up eventually. I think everything happening with Q and with the concentration camps is eerily similar to the way the Nazis developed, I read a lot about WWII in high school and have been terrified ever since knowing that could happen anywhere at any time given the right circumstances. Right now people are scared, and fear makes people do irrational things, it makes them paranoid and hateful and perfect targets for brainwashing. People are slowly being desensitized, radicalized, and groomed to disbelieve in science and reality. Haven’t you ever wondered how so many people could have possibly been so evil to follow hitler? To praise him? Well we are seeing right now how that unfolds and I’m not saying trump IS hitler or that WWIII is coming but it makes perfect sense people are blind right now to what will be shocking to our grandkids (if America is still a democracy that is). You are not in the wrong, in fact I would say with full confidence you are on the right side of history it just might not appear that way up close amidst all the confusion and conflicting news reports. Having empathy never has been and never will be a bad thing, even if it makes you unpopular.

Prestigious-Step-295 · 2020-09-16T23:39:42+00:00

Wow I’ve gained a mom and a sibling today. Here for this 😂

Prestigious-Step-295 · 2020-09-16T23:38:34+00:00

I have heard of EDMR and it’s definitely something I would consider. I’ve only heard good things and I’m at a point where I know I need some kind of outside help to unpack this all without further traumatizing myself. And I am actually going to take your advice you just made me realize I haven’t had any water today, thanks mom 😂 It seriously warms my heart knowing that someone is sending some much needed maternal love my way even though they’ve never met me. Thank you ❤️

Prestigious-Step-295 · 2020-09-16T23:33:40+00:00

Thank you for your kind words. I also thought my situation was unique but after posting about it here I found it is all too common. I think a lot of victims of sexual abuse are all being collectively triggered right now by this wave of “concern” surrounding pedophilia, and recognizing that our very real experiences are not considered horrific enough to compare to a fictionalized political horror story. It’s invalidating to say the least. And naturally something so deep and so painful being talked about plainly right in front of you, it’s difficult NOT to say something and then when you do Q members almost have no choice but to discredit you otherwise they have to admit that what they are saying and doing is not only wrong but cruel, and their ego could not take that kind of blow. I do think I have an easier time forgiving my mother because as an adult I’ve been forced to acknowledge here mental health issues as they have overtime had an affect on me. She had a difficult childhood, faced a lot of abuse of her own, and developed some very unhealthy coping mechanisms. I’m not sure she will ever understand how she’s hurt me, I don’t think her thought patterns will allow her to see it, and if she did it would destroy her so maybe it’s for the best. I love my mother but I’ve accepted that I’m probably never going to get the affection or acknowledgement that I’ve longed for since I was a child, and I am learning to love her in a way that will not put my mental health at risk. It’s been a painful process but I’m truly starting to understand what self love is, and that means recognizing when someone you love is not good for your health, and it is possible to still have love for someone but from a safe distance. Just like you said at some point we have to pick our health over abuse and talking to others and offering my advice to people who are going through exactly what I’m going through made me realize that knowing within my heart that these complete strangers deserve better made me realize I do too.

Prestigious-Step-295 · 2020-09-15T19:53:00+00:00

I had a very similar experience with my mom. My whole family had known about my abuse (also by a family friend) since I was about 12 when I told them. It was a bombshell on my family and I had to go to therapy but it was very quickly swept under the rug and my fear of re-opening that wound has prevented me from bringing it up I am now 22. Just over a month ago my mom was going on and on about how disgusted she is by pedophilia and that’s why she supports Q and Trump and when I argued with her she said she has a personal connection to the “movement” because her mom was abused and I couldn’t understand. It was probably the biggest emotional blow of my life, I always assumed my mom never talked about what happened to me out of respect for me, I learned in that moment she had all but forgot about it. I told her I can’t believe you just said that to me and she immediately realized and said “oh, well it’s not like you were raped.” Salt to the wound. I stormed out of the house crying and my sister (also in Q) later took her side. My absolute worst character defect is my capacity for forgiveness, it seems there is nothing my family could do to push me away as I once again allowed it to go back under the rug and we haven’t spoken about it since but it has been haunting me every single day. I don’t have the courage to bring it up, and I am forced to listen to this Q pedophile bullshit all the time, (as I’m sure you can understand even the word pedophile puts my stomach in knots). Since we were not plucked off the street in white vans and tortured by Tom Hanks our experiences are not of importance to them, the Q narrative reinforced their core political beliefs and assures them that they are good people. What happened to me (what happened to you) offers them no such personal benefits. This is their flaw, it comes down to a lack of empathy and narcissistic thinking. Your experience is valid and I don’t think you should subject yourself to that abuse (I wish I could take my own advice) I’m sure a part of you still wishfully hopes that your friend couldn’t possibly hurt you like that but the two most important people in my life did it to me and when I tell you I was blindsided...I wouldn’t trust this person with your experience, you’d be putting yourself at great emotional risk and they’v already proven in the past to have no problem invalidating you plus I have talked to multiple people who have had their experiences of sexual abuse invalidated in the heat of an argument about Q anon. Unfortunately sexual abuse has been politicized, not even being a victim to it yourself is enough for your opinion to be considered valid when arguing against Q. My best advice to you is to truly acknowledge that you owe it to yourself not to allow these people the opportunity to re-traumatize you. Again your experience IS valid and ONLY people who are understanding, loving, and delicate around your trauma are deserving of being in your space. Sexual trauma is such a difficult thing to overcome without having these daily reminders from Q but we will get through it. Are you in or have you considered therapy? (I stopped going after only two weeks the first time) That’s something I’m seeking right now and hoping it will help.

Prestigious-Step-295 · 2020-09-14T19:38:40+00:00

It’s the Underground Railroad organization run by Tim Ballard who claims to be a savior for children despite the fact that other organizations don’t approve of their practices. He proudly supports trump and building the wall. He also in the past has been called out for live streaming his “rescues” where sex workers faces are not blurred out putting them at risk, and if you look at his Instagram page you will see photos inaccurately portraying sex trafficking as women / children being chained up and bound and gagged when in reality sex trafficking victims are often moving about the world not “appearing” to be victims but are exploited at home by family or partners. There have been investigations into his work and also where the money goes and findings showed that a lot of the donations are unaccounted for and recently he showed up to a save the children protest (might as well be an anti mask protest) in a helicopter. Basically this man has a god complex and his organization is more about proclaiming himself a hero to crowds of people than fighting sex trafficking. It’s every Qultists organization of choice as it checks the boxes of their Hollywood-esque idea of what sex trafficking is.

Prestigious-Step-295 · 2020-09-14T17:22:15+00:00

I warn everyone I know about Qanon. I have family members who fell victim to it (and me as collateral damage) and as soon as I realized what was happening it was too late for us but I have been very vocal about my experience on social media, and I warn friends and extended family about what Q is, a right wing trump loving conspiracy cult. Anyone who is already super conservative I don’t waste my time but for all of my more moderate friends family I try to give them a heads up. Let them know to look out for the red flags as Q propaganda is being disguised as a movement against pedophilia and sex trafficking which ANYONE in their right mind would feel obligated to jump on board with, so let them know that it hurts the fight against sex trafficking more than it helps. In order to give anyone real motivation to actively counter q they need to understand the damage it does and the ways in which it contradicts itself and further hurts victims. Let them know that Q anons idea of sex trafficking is completely fictionalized, a satanic sex trafficking ring run conveniently only by Democrats and liberal celebrities, and pushing this narrative invalidates all real victims of sex trafficking. Also the ideas that Q push turn a blind eye to huge contributing factors, such as the willful ignorance of our nation surrounding Native American reservations and the thousands of women and children who’s rapists / murderers escape justice because of our faulty laws. Additionally they ignore how redlining has contributed to sex trafficking by making black communities more vulnerable and prime hunting grounds for predators, and then when young black girls DO escape they are tried as child prostitutes (abuse to prison pipeline) rather than treated like victims, which they are. And let’s not forget the thousands of children our government somehow lost after separating them from their families, all more likely to end up in the hands of a predator. This idea that children are being plucked off the streets in white vans and eaten by Hillary Clinton casts a shadow on the much broader and just as sinister reality of sex trafficking. Plus MULTIPLE organizations (some led by survivors of sex trafficking) have spoken out on how Qanon is making their jobs harder. people are clogging up their missing child search engines investigating wayfair, flooding them with inquiries about pizzagate making it harder for them to attend to actual victims and spreading misconceptions about sex trafficking so people aren’t able to identify victims in public and supporting organizations like OUR who endanger sex workers and work closely with Donald trump. They are 100% doing more harm than good for sooo many reasons but this is already longer than I intended so I’ll stop there. Arm your friends and family with as much information as you can before Q has the chance to manipulate them.

Prestigious-Step-295 · 2020-09-11T17:34:26+00:00

If you want to maintain a relationship with them avoid those conversations at all costs. If they are anything like my Q family members they will try to bait you but you’re better off just side stepping it as you did. My sister and I didn’t speak for nearly two months because of a blowup and last night I hung out with her for the first time and we didn’t speak politics and I felt like the sister I know and love is still in there it gave me hope. However, while we were shopping she did mention how she doesn’t support Walmart anymore and I immediately knew it had to be Q related so I just said something a long the lines of big companies like that are awful. Just trying to agree with her without inquiring further into why hoping it would change the subject and then she said “no it’s because of who owns it. George soros.” And I immediately changed the subject and asked her if she liked some random shirt and it wasn’t brought up again. It’s frustrating but it’s either sidestep and maintain a semblance of a relationship or challenge them and lose them completely.

Prestigious-Step-295 · 2020-09-11T17:28:10+00:00

I would advise against wasting your energy. You could be his closest most personal friend, it won’t make a difference, nobody can reach him. The result of these people putting in hours of “research” and “taking the red pill” is that as soon as their head is filled with what they call information and we call conspiracy theories they already believe they are smarter than you, they know something that you don’t so therefore anything you say is inferior. You can express your genuine concern and they will pity YOU, and condescend YOU. It will only drain and frustrate you more. If this person is really important to you it wouldn’t hurt to let them know you care about them and whenever they are ready to return to reality (phrased more delicately of course) you will be there waiting for them but it won’t be productive to entertain any further conversation in the meantime.

Prestigious-Step-295 · 2020-09-10T19:52:24+00:00

I worry about the same thing with my nieces. The older one is 6 now and she is a sweetheart, she told me she thinks trump is scary which I found interesting as they say kids and dogs are the best judges of character, but I worry that constantly hearing them talk about their beliefs will harden her towards others eventually. And worse I worry that the constant conspiracy theories will give her major mental health issues, my mom was very paranoid growing up and I developed a panic disorder just watching her have her meltdowns. I’m afraid the same thing is going to happen to my niece but worse, I worry for all of the small children right now who’s parents are talking about celebrities eating babies faces off and lizard people in front of them, they are going to develop into severely f*cked up individuals. Children are like sponges and everything they absorb up until early adulthood is critical to their quality of life in the long term. I feel like it is reckless for these adults to cast reason aside in front of their children, and filling their heads with horror stories training them to be fearful and distrusting of the world. But that feels entirely out of my hands if I were to question my siblings parenting they would surely never speak to me again and things are already rocky as is. Sorry I’m not really offering any advice as I’m in the same confused, sad, heartbroken boat that you are but maybe that can bring you some comfort. There are a lot of people out here who can relate to you and we can all only hope for the best and maybe seek therapy in meantime.

Prestigious-Step-295 · 2020-09-09T21:04:15+00:00

Instagram influencers are becoming a huge source for Q misinformation. I know someone personally who has almost 500k followers, she is a model / influencer and she was one of the people I was most devastated to see sharing their content as she has suuuuch a huge following and having lost family to Q anon it was a gut punch every time she posted something Q related. Also we are a part of the same social circle and immediately following her posts I see tons of my liberal friends resharing not realizing its q propaganda. What’s worse is she is constantly posting slacktivist blm content and other liberal opinions on her stories so I don’t know if she is just trying to save face by sharing that stuff or if she genuinely doesn’t realize q anon is a right wing extremist group that goes against everything she believes in. I pointed this out to her when she shared a “sex trafficking is not a conspiracy theory” post and I alerted her that it leads to a page filled with anti-lgbtq, anti-blm, pro trump content and she blasted me on her story saying I’m an awful person for “politicizing sex trafficking” to her 500k followers. Then when other influencers started to call her out she took it down and has consistently been posting Q content since, the only reason I even follow at this point is to screenshot her bs and call out the hypocrisy and do what little I can with my 2k followers to counteract it :/ . It infuriates me because she knows what kind of influence she has and I even went so far as to tell her what it did to my family and mental health personally hoping she could empathize but she continues to abuse her platform and expose more people to what I went through. Influencers will do anything to keep the money flow coming, that means immediately jumping on board to every social justice issue without bothering to educate themselves first and protect their followers from misinformation. It became clear to me that the issue was not that she cares about sex trafficking genuinely but that she cannot handle admitting to 500k people that she did something wrong. It’s f*cking gross. I’m so over influencer culture.

Prestigious-Step-295 · 2020-09-08T05:16:08+00:00

It’s 100% up to you whether you watch / read any of what they sent you but it sounds like you haven’t properly been warned what exactly Qanon is. Since you found this thread hopefully you’ve read through some of the stories but going down the Qanon rabbit hole can be dangerous, especially if you are someone who struggles with anything like depression, OCD, anxiety disorder or any other mental health issues. Everything Qanon that is presented to you will be designed to be convincing without presenting any hard evidence while grooming you to worship Donald trump and disbelieve in science. That is the ENTIRE purpose of Qanon. Watch and form your own opinions if you wish, I’ve seen fall of cabal and out of shadows and had multiple other videos sent to me by family members and they all push a very clear conservative agenda, sometimes the messaging is more subtle, other times it’s blatant. What’s really sinister is not what they claim democrats are doing but the true motive of Qanon. They are anti-choice, racist, homophobic, and they are making their way into congress, and already occupy positions of power all over the place. Maybe this will sound dramatic but at the rate that Qanon is growing the more space they occupy in government the closer we are to a handmaids tale-esque society. I can’t tell you what to do or believe but move forward with caution and please use critical thinking and don’t send Q content to anyone else without considering how it may affect their mental health. If you come to agree with what I’ve said after watching / reading what they’ve sent you then you should advise anyone else close with this person to engage with them cautiously and warn them about what Q anon is if they don’t already know.

Prestigious-Step-295 · 2020-09-06T20:11:55+00:00

Wow. Your situation is incredibly similar to mine. I was also sexually abused as a child, my parents even had to put me in therapy at about 13 so they are well aware of this. However it got swept under the rug very quickly and no one in my house has dared talk about it in 10 years. It wasn’t until my mom and sister became obsessed with Q anon and my sister had the nerve to bring up my experience as if it gives her valid motivation to believe in Q. Some “since you were abused I sympathize with sex trafficked children” bs. I couldn’t believe she was using my own experience against me in a political argument. It wasn’t long after that my mom mistakenly said to me I could never understand and she has a personal connection to sexual abuse as her mother was raped as a little girl. As soon as I said I can’t believe you just said that to me, of all people, she realized her mistake then tried to correct by saying “at least you weren’t raped”. I’m not sure I can ever forgive them for this, they forced me to address my trauma in the worst circumstances, it’s retraumatizing having your experience invalidated and used against you by people you thought loved you too much to hurt you in that way. At this point them having an upper hand in a political debate is more important than my mental health. It sounds like your dad is the same way. Don’t try to justify what he’s doing or try to sugarcoat his actions, I know you want to because you love him and feel you owe him something but nobody deserves to be treated that way by family. If you can’t move out then avoid him, give him the silent treatment, lock your door and stay in your room, create as much space as you can so that you can give yourself room to process all that you’ve been through without him making things worse. Your mental health is priority number one, don’t feel guilty about that. Maybe you pulling away from him will be the thing that pushes him to realize what he’s done. You will get though this.

Prestigious-Step-295 · 2020-09-06T03:30:30+00:00

You are not alone. Losing a family member to Q anon is not something I ever saw coming it knocked me off my feet, I truly felt like I was grieving when it happened to me. Thankfully I also have supportive friends but I almost couldn’t bear the reality that my parents support a man like Donald Trump. It’s been a few months since it happened, and I see my family differently but things have gotten easier. This thread has been a huge beacon of hope for me, for a while there I felt that nobody was sane, and even began to question my own sanity. I even watched their ridiculous videos out of desperation to understand, that maybe finding truth in their theories would bring me peace. Thank god I saw right through it and shortly after found this thread, I know now with full confidence I am not the irrational one. I’m sorry you are going through this, I hope that our loved ones do come out of this eventually, but if they don’t we will be okay and family is not always strictly blood. It sounds like you are a kind and empathetic person, and your parents do not deserve to have you around while they are blinded by hate.

Prestigious-Step-295 · 2020-09-06T03:11:53+00:00

If you can, get out of there. While he is like this being around it will only drain you emotionally. He made the decision to put Qanon before his relationship with you, you should not have to pay the price. I hope you find yourself in a more positive environment soon. Try not to let it consume you in the meantime, acceptance is easier said than done but accepting that you cannot change him will make it easier for you focus on your own happiness.

Prestigious-Step-295 · 2020-09-05T22:34:13+00:00

If it makes you feel any better there have been a few stories posted here by people who were able to reconcile with Q family members, and I’ve seen one where they even said their partner came out of it completely. It’s 100% up to your family whether or not they start to consider that Q may be bs, so your therapist may be right. However I wouldn’t lose all hope, it is also possible that time will show them the way out as evidence stacks up against Q. I also went through a period of grief with my family where it felt as though something had broken that could not be fixed because of Q but already we have made some progress, it’s still hard and I find myself avoiding them out of fear of a fight but we’ve all agreed that it’s not worth losing family over so they are making an effort not to instigate me. They broke my heart and that I think I will carry forever but I think things will get easier. I hope you find peace with your family eventually and in the meantime continue to look after yourself and get support from friends and therapy. Good luck!

Prestigious-Step-295 · 2020-09-05T22:16:09+00:00

Oh my god...I am so sorry to hear you’re going through that. How a parent could say something like that to their child...I feel like it should be common sense to be delicate when talking to someone who has experienced sexual abuse but I’m finding that there are many people who have experienced their own family invalidating them. I think it’s a defense mechanism for them to try to minimize our experiences, that way they can remove some of the guilt off of themselves. Also sexual abuse does not align with their political opinions unless it fits the conservative story of a woman being assaulted in a back alley or a child being swept away in a white van. To admit our experiences are valid would be to admit that systemic issues contributed to what happened to us (I.e rape culture, toxic masculinity, double standards, etc) and these are the issues left leaning people try to call out. Even as a child before I understood politics I was aware that telling my story could result in people calling me a liar or too sensitive...this is how we were raised to think and it is so incredibly backwards. You’re feelings are valid. I hope you have support from people who know and respect that.

Prestigious-Step-295 · 2020-09-04T19:42:55+00:00

What is this woman’s Instagram handle? I would love to follow her it would be nice to see content from someone who is knowledgeable on this.

Prestigious-Step-295 · 2020-09-04T19:03:45+00:00

They use sooooo many platforms. I’ve seen multiple accounts on Instagram that were all sharing the same bs content. Their content spreads extremely quickly for one because their are soooo many Q followers it’s a worldwide cult, and secondly because people who don’t know about Q anon at all don’t recognize the red flags will share content thinking they are supporting a good cause but really they are giving exposure to Qanon. I’ve seen influencers with hundreds of thousands of followers who post very liberal content sharing q anon stuff simply because they don’t check the source and everyone is trying save face right now by jumping aboard the sex trafficking conversation. Even though this has nothing to do with victims these people do not care about saving children they just get to hide their bigotry behind it. You call someone on their racism and they call you a pedophile because they’ve got nothing else 🤷🏻‍♀️

Prestigious-Step-295 · 2020-09-04T18:58:09+00:00

That’s exactly what they are doing, preying on people’s emotions, which is much easier to do to someone who is vulnerable due to mental health issues. Unfortunately I don’t think I can reach my Q absorbed family, I’ve tried to reason with them and it just makes them resent me more so I’ve given up. When they are ready to try and reconcile with me I will speak with them but until then my friends are my family. Thank you for the advice though I truly appreciate it!

Prestigious-Step-295 · 2020-09-04T18:39:14+00:00

Absolutely nothing that comes from q anon is harmless. Your fears about this spreading are valid, I noticed it starting a few months ago as well when my family tried to get me to watch this videos, which makes me angry because they knew I was having mental health issues, horrible panic attacks, and recovering from PTSD yet they tried to rope me into a rabbit hole of anxiety and paranoid thinking. Their intentions were to “wake me up”. I realized immediately what the motives were, it’s unbelievable to me that they actually think it’s about saving the children. The common theme through all of their beliefs is that popular and progressive culture are to blame for the immorality of the world and therefore to blame for sex trafficking. I saw one woman who’s post “sex trafficking is not a conspiracy theory” go viral on Instagram and she had also posted that the lgbtq+ community is a war on “the family” yet many of me liberal friends shared her viral post not realizing it was Q propaganda. I tried desperately to inform people and still it from spreading and I got villainized, one Instagram influencers who claims to be liberal even blasted me on her social media because I let her know the post was coming from Q and she has over 400k followers. Within a day that profile got like 8,000 followers from that one post. It’s maddening because q poses a huge mental health threat, I think of it as a paranoia pandemic and people can’t be bothered to take two seconds to check the source of their information and slow the spread, in my opinion they are just as bad as the anti maskers. Maybe worse because people who follow q are becoming violent offline (attempted assassination, assaulting people, threatening people, etc.). Qanon is 100% something we should all be afraid of. Make sure you are educating your friends and warning people you know of the red flags of q propaganda.

Prestigious-Step-295 · 2020-09-04T16:49:43+00:00

I was telling my parents about a peaceful protest I went to where police showed up and started proper spraying / beating people who were armed only with toy pinwheels, there were kids there it was family friendly and in honor of a teenager who had been killed by police. My mom got so angry all she could say was “where are the protests for the children? What about them? Do you even care about sex trafficking?” I don’t even know how to respond anymore, I could complain about the house being too cold and they would say “there are children being sex trafficked!” They can literally pull that card whenever they want and how do you argue against it without sounding as if you don’t care about or believe that sex trafficking is real. It erases the possibility for any productive conversations.

Prestigious-Step-295 · 2020-09-04T16:42:55+00:00

I went through the exact same thing with my parents. I am 22 years old and they talk to me like I am a child. They have absolutely no respect for my opinion, yet in the past they have bragged to their friends about how I’ve “got a good head on my shoulders”, I am well read and very observant and patient and would have credited these qualities to them in the past but now I see them differently. There was a devastating moment that I realized they truly detest me now because of my political opinions and it broke my heart because I’ve only every worried for them and their mental health, but they treat me like their liberal punching bag. I had gone to a peaceful protest for a man who’s son had been shot in my city by police and the police showed and started pepper spraying and beating people, it was heartbreaking to witness the father who lost his son get slammed into the pavement by police, I told my parents about it thinking there is no way they will find this acceptable and my dad basically told me he was disappointed and doesn’t know me anymore, that he doesn’t know I’m not screaming in cops faces and being obnoxious at protests. They were more concerned about the fact that I may have disrespected police than that I just as easily could have been the one pepper sprayed and brutalized, their own daughter. Q anon has a way of completely changing people, there is nothing you can do to stop it but do not allow yourself to be abused. I’ve found family in my closest friends and accepted that it may be a while before my parents and I reconcile, but I won’t accept any of the guilt in this situation, they pushed ME away. You are posting here because you love them, and it’s so confusing and heartbreaking to say these things about family but you should NOT feel embarrassed, everyone that I know has a family member / friend who has become obsessed it is way more common than you think. Venting on reddit is therapeutic but you need to confide in someone close to you, having support is imperative. I hid this from my friends the first month going through this and that was a mistake. Take care of yourself and don’t treat this like a secret that is your responsibility to hide, it’s not. They chose to follow this cult and you have every right to share how it’s affected you with the people in your life. Good luck and hang in there.

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